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Gary Glitter track in a spin class

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SleepyMc · 16/06/2022 19:27

Complete with choreographed claps and sprints.

YABU: Why not? It's just music.
YANBU: I'd rather not, thanks.

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BogRollBOGOF · 17/06/2022 10:11

I remember years ago when Gary Glitter was convicted, Paul Gambaccini commented that the difference between Michael Jackson (then still alive) and Garry Glitter was conviction and extent of talent, influence and musical back catalogue.

Gary Glitter can be ignored from musical history with little gap and generally has been. Michael Jackson's work has been a strong influence on generations of artists since. That's harder to strategically ignore. Play of his music did significantly quieten down in his life and the allegations did impact his career and royalties, despite the murky legal processes, it wasn't consequence-free. For many, his death did "liberate" some of the conflict between the life of the artist and the musical output. Well until the Netflix allegations, but he wasn't alive to answer to that. It's fair to say that money corrupted justice in one way or another.

The other fairly distinctive thing about Michael Jackson is that many remember him as an innocent young child. Do you cancel his work as a child? By default cancel family members who may have condoned their brother or had nothing do do with his alledged actions? He's not profiting from beyond the grave. There are many shades of grey where people can choose to draw their line.

As to other artists underage shenanigans with fans, at that point in time, it was considered consensual; we are better at recognising the vulnerability of teenagers now. Teenage lives have changed and they reach adult milestones later and are less independent now.

Many people draw the line where laws were broken and proven beyond reasonable doubt.

Dredging up Gary Glitter's back catalogue for soundtracks and introducing to younger generations is pretty distasteful to most, and few will want to hear it in venues like Spin. Unconvicted artists, becomes far more ambiguous.

woodhill · 17/06/2022 10:58

I thought Shaking Stevens sang Rock and Roll Christmas tbh

woodhill · 17/06/2022 11:00

Didn't he sing

Good to be back as well or was that the Glitter Bsnd alone

AuntieStella · 17/06/2022 11:12

Please someone tell me that I'm not the lone person who only knows the Dr Who version of this song?

No you're not

Is Doctorin' The Tardis still played or is that banned?

Still not played.

Though I have it, and some Gary Glitter tracks, on my running playlists. Because I'm old enough to remember the days before he was known to be a pervert.

If you're not British, particularly not if in US, you would be unaware of the boycott, because his music, along with the music and films of many other sex offenders is still played/shown

MrsMiddleMother · 17/06/2022 11:58

It's not acceptable and I would have said something. In my house we ban music from all known paedophiles. Just no need to be listening to it

ThisSceptredIsle · 17/06/2022 12:25

Georgeskitchen · 17/06/2022 08:23

Gary Glitters song "Rock and roll Christmas" was really good . I wish someone would cover it and bring it back to life . Many younger folk won't know it was GG song

Please no. Just another in a longline of dreary Christmas songs that it'll be too soon if I ever have to hear again.
It was shit, like 99% of his output.
He was always a shit singer, singing shit music.

Alb0 · 17/06/2022 15:16

EllieFAnt82 · 17/06/2022 06:57

As for Michael Jackson, he was found not guilty, is now dead so can’t defend himself, and given he was rather odd (given his own traumatic childhood) he was an easy target for false allegations by those wanting money. Benefit of the doubt there IMHO.

@EllieFAnt82 this is excuse after excuse. He did not have any more a 'traumatic childhood' than his siblings did, and guess what, NONE OF THEM HAD HIS ISSUES. Many other people had far, far, far worse happen to them, and they didn't use their 'childhood' (and Jackson's childhood was idyllic and privileged) as an excuse, so you may be gullible, but you and others can f right off with that fucking pathetic excuse. Wake up.

EllieFAnt82 · 17/06/2022 19:40

Alb0 · 17/06/2022 15:16

@EllieFAnt82 this is excuse after excuse. He did not have any more a 'traumatic childhood' than his siblings did, and guess what, NONE OF THEM HAD HIS ISSUES. Many other people had far, far, far worse happen to them, and they didn't use their 'childhood' (and Jackson's childhood was idyllic and privileged) as an excuse, so you may be gullible, but you and others can f right off with that fucking pathetic excuse. Wake up.

You really should get a job at a court.

You clearly know better than judges and juries!

The justice system needs you! Sign up today!!!

Alb0 · 17/06/2022 21:05

EllieFAnt82 · 17/06/2022 19:40

You really should get a job at a court.

You clearly know better than judges and juries!

The justice system needs you! Sign up today!!!

And what does that have to do with my response to 'oh he had a sad childhood' excuse?

If you think the courts get it right all the time especially when rich stars get off easy (and consider 4 of the Jackson jurors said they felt he was guilty), then perhaps you should get a job there. I bet you also think OJ Simpson was innocent too.....

bellamountain · 17/06/2022 21:14

After the leaving Netherland documentary, Michael Jackson's songs on the radio are now very very far and few between. Loved his music but absolutely cannot listen to him anymore. It seems a lot of people agree. I find Gary Glitter songs are played in a lot of American films but I guess they don't know who he is over there.

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