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To ask why people like Dubai so much?

524 replies

moreyoudoknow · 15/06/2022 20:16

I know loads of people who now say it's their favourite holiday destination?

What's so lovely about it? Looks too hot to me? Can go above 45 weather wise!

I like the Canary Islands because the sun burns down but it has a cool breeze... a hidden gem if you hate sweltering heat

From pictures, it looks like a city like London that just has pools?

OP posts:
Ggg626262 · 16/06/2022 11:46

The British woman in my mums local post office in the UK however, should be vaporised for human cruelty 😀

youlightupmyday · 16/06/2022 11:48

I work here in a senior role, am female, and have absolutely no issues per se. However, i work in a global role and often notice anti female bias in processes in all countries. Literally had a major issue in Ireland last week as a process was handed from the men in the meeting to only women ( not present) as it was seen as 'clerical'. It was not clerical.

i elect to stay here as it suits my family. Especially as my ex husband and I are different nationalities so can't 'go home' and continue to coparent our kids.

Initially we moved here because of the above, the diversity is fantastic and whenever I go back to the UK i really feel the lack of it. Nearly all my friends here are bilingual, at a minimum, only English speakers tend not to be.

Dubai can be glitz and money but it can also be a wonderful home. Btw My neighbours are a married gay couple and my friend's lesbian sister also relocated here last year and tells me that her dating life is time consuming.. People are people everywhere...

I always think these threads are MN virtue signalling at its best. And patronising. I am certainly not thick, nor smug and definitely do not look down on people. No false eyelashes,/tits/ botox here but I have had some IPL and am not frumpy.

LesGiselle · 16/06/2022 12:00

I always think these threads are MN virtue signalling at its best

Jesus. Virtue signalling.

Pointing out Dubai's harrowing, disgraceful record on human rights abuses is not fucking virtue signalling.

What a pathetic, reductive argument.

Ladywiddio · 16/06/2022 12:07

The OP is not asking why people don’t like Dubai!! There are numerous threads about that already.

So I will repeat what I said yesterday,the reasons why I like it.

Weather.

Fabulous Hotels.

Shopping Malls.

Being able to sit on the beach in the early hours of the morning and feel safe,I do not drink alcohol,how many holiday resorts around the world can you say you feel safe in at night as a single female.

LesGiselle · 16/06/2022 12:11

Threads evolve. It is inevitable that people will offer opinions other than 'oooh shopping.'

pixie5121 · 16/06/2022 12:12

Ladywiddio · 16/06/2022 12:07

The OP is not asking why people don’t like Dubai!! There are numerous threads about that already.

So I will repeat what I said yesterday,the reasons why I like it.

Weather.

Fabulous Hotels.

Shopping Malls.

Being able to sit on the beach in the early hours of the morning and feel safe,I do not drink alcohol,how many holiday resorts around the world can you say you feel safe in at night as a single female.

You feel safe in a country where a man raping you could lead to YOU being arrested and put in jail?

BusterGonad · 16/06/2022 12:28

I think your argument is a bit simplistic, all because the laws are not the same as UK it doesn't make every man a rapist.
The UK laws are suppose to help the victim but that doesn't really happen, I find most UK city centres far more scary at night then I ever found Qatar. Also the culture is very much an evening one so there are plenty of families milling around and no one is off their face on alcohol larging it. Again unless you've lived it I don't really think you can comment on the safety of the place.

BusterGonad · 16/06/2022 12:39

With everything I've said though, it's not the place for me. I'm a bit fed up of the up tightness of Muslim countries. I'm much more of a South East Asia type. Live and let live. Wear what you want, date who you want and kiss on the streets (if That your thing) I'm so bored of not being able to buy a beer when I want one, to cover my shoulders and legs, to have men glare at you. It's all very suffocating living in a man's world.

LesGiselle · 16/06/2022 12:39

Unless you've lived it I don't really think you can comment on the safety of the place

Unless you've lived as an exploited construction laborer, a gay activist or a migrant domestic worker, etc. etc. etc. I don't really think you can comment in the safety of the place.

BusterGonad · 16/06/2022 12:40

I'm not in Dubai but another Muslim country reasonably near.

LesGiselle · 16/06/2022 12:40

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LakieLady · 16/06/2022 12:44

moreyoudoknow · 15/06/2022 20:16

I know loads of people who now say it's their favourite holiday destination?

What's so lovely about it? Looks too hot to me? Can go above 45 weather wise!

I like the Canary Islands because the sun burns down but it has a cool breeze... a hidden gem if you hate sweltering heat

From pictures, it looks like a city like London that just has pools?

I'm with you OP, it looks hideous and vulgar and that's before you consider the dubious human rights record of the government. Or the environmental impact of flying there.

BusterGonad · 16/06/2022 12:49

LesGiselle · 16/06/2022 12:39

Unless you've lived it I don't really think you can comment on the safety of the place

Unless you've lived as an exploited construction laborer, a gay activist or a migrant domestic worker, etc. etc. etc. I don't really think you can comment in the safety of the place.

I guess that's true too, but I was commenting on the female op who likes to have a mock tail on the beach late at night. But thank you for putting me in my place.

LakieLady · 16/06/2022 12:49

Sistanotcista · 16/06/2022 10:46

I’m not at all saying anyone should visit Dubai. The comments about the treatment of staff and Dubai being built on slavery are justified. But, we forget our own history so easily. The UK was built on the profits of slavery. The Royal African Company (RAC) transported slaves to Bristol, where they were branded with the RAC logo. Bristol was a hub for the global slave trade.

Britain formally abolished the slave trade in 1807, but only outlawed slavery in 1834, after the Slavery Abolition Act was passed by the parliament the year before.

The British government paid the slave traders 20 million pounds in compensation. The government took out a loan to pay it, which was only paid off – by British taxpayer money – in 2015.

That means that living taxpayers in the UK paid billions of pounds to slave traders to stop them from trading in human lives, and to slave owners for the loss of their “property”. The British government, using public money, paid slave owners but not those who were enslaved. We can’t exactly claim the moral high ground here.

I think we can, because we now know better.

Hollipolly · 16/06/2022 13:02

It's always the same with the UK.poking their noses in others affairs, giving it the big almighty. Wasn't the Jewish community paid out relatively recently?

Having Eukrians as cleaners after just fleeing war. But they are not been exploited after
Fleeing from war? Nah of course not!

What about the wind rush scandal??

British people have a cheek and its rather embarrassing at times!

Ladywiddio · 16/06/2022 13:02

pixie5121 · 16/06/2022 12:12

You feel safe in a country where a man raping you could lead to YOU being arrested and put in jail?

Yes I felt perfectly safe thank you.I am 74! Retired Army Officer,I can take care of myself.

I take it you have never been?No of course you haven’t.

I am actually answering the original question.Not really interested in the ridiculous reasons why people don’t go.

If you really want to pull a Country down,start with this one,it’s bloody awful!

Shall now hide this thread,it’s getting on my nerves.

pixie5121 · 16/06/2022 13:06

Ladywiddio · 16/06/2022 13:02

Yes I felt perfectly safe thank you.I am 74! Retired Army Officer,I can take care of myself.

I take it you have never been?No of course you haven’t.

I am actually answering the original question.Not really interested in the ridiculous reasons why people don’t go.

If you really want to pull a Country down,start with this one,it’s bloody awful!

Shall now hide this thread,it’s getting on my nerves.

74-year-old woman thinks she could stop a 6 foot, muscly, huge man from raping her...the fucking arrogance and delusion. I'm mid thirties, go to the gym almost every day, lift weights, and I'm well aware that most men could overpower me if they wanted to.

You don't need to live somewhere to know what the laws are.

Have fun living in Cloud Cuckoo land, love.

Hollipolly · 16/06/2022 13:08

BusterGonad · 16/06/2022 12:28

I think your argument is a bit simplistic, all because the laws are not the same as UK it doesn't make every man a rapist.
The UK laws are suppose to help the victim but that doesn't really happen, I find most UK city centres far more scary at night then I ever found Qatar. Also the culture is very much an evening one so there are plenty of families milling around and no one is off their face on alcohol larging it. Again unless you've lived it I don't really think you can comment on the safety of the place.

The UK aren't ready to seek any positives from Dubai. Brits are very disorderly in comparison and can be so entitled it stinks

Complaining people don't speak there language this whole thing about rules is because we Brits are quite unruly as a whole, our crime is horrendous too! Travelling places then complaining about not having a bacon sandwich. FFS my stomach churns

BusterGonad · 16/06/2022 13:12

Hollipolly · 16/06/2022 13:08

The UK aren't ready to seek any positives from Dubai. Brits are very disorderly in comparison and can be so entitled it stinks

Complaining people don't speak there language this whole thing about rules is because we Brits are quite unruly as a whole, our crime is horrendous too! Travelling places then complaining about not having a bacon sandwich. FFS my stomach churns

Is this aimed at me? I don't really understand the point you're making to me?

pixie5121 · 16/06/2022 13:14

Hollipolly · 16/06/2022 13:08

The UK aren't ready to seek any positives from Dubai. Brits are very disorderly in comparison and can be so entitled it stinks

Complaining people don't speak there language this whole thing about rules is because we Brits are quite unruly as a whole, our crime is horrendous too! Travelling places then complaining about not having a bacon sandwich. FFS my stomach churns

But it's possible to see things objectively.

I'm sure Dubai does have some positives. The lack of rowdiness and violent crime I'm sure is great. The lack of public drunken behaviour. Being able to go for a wander on the beach or marina late at night and feel safe.

But that doesn't negate the fact that their human rights record is truly horrendous. It's illegal to be gay, women are second class citizens...this isn't hysteria, it's completely true. I would question what kind of person can happily live somewhere you could be literally executed for having sex with your partner. Or where being the victim of a sexual assault could see you being charged with a crime and imprisoned.

I've always thought that anyone who is happy to live in Dubai must have their head in the sand and this thread does nothing to convince me otherwise.

It's not that the UK is perfect, it's that at least we have basic freedoms here which just aren't available there. Nobody is going to throw me in jail for kissing a woman or going to a gay club night.

Hollipolly · 16/06/2022 13:20

@BusterGonad it was not a dig at you. I was agreeing with you.

So explain Windrush??? Peoplewho have lived and born in UK facing deportation??

There wasa recent Somalian blogger that won her case probably due to the fact her story went viral.

Please tell me about these "rights" when it came to wind rush? @pixie5121

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pixie5121 · 16/06/2022 13:27

Hollipolly · 16/06/2022 13:20

@BusterGonad it was not a dig at you. I was agreeing with you.

So explain Windrush??? Peoplewho have lived and born in UK facing deportation??

There wasa recent Somalian blogger that won her case probably due to the fact her story went viral.

Please tell me about these "rights" when it came to wind rush? @pixie5121

You think people getting deported largely because they never bothered to confirm they were actually British citizens and sort out paperwork is remotely the same as having your head cut off for being gay?

Don't get me wrong - the Windrush stuff is awful. I don't support it at all. But it's not in the same league as Dubai's human rights issues. Just because one country is shit with some matters doesn't make another one squeaky clean.

It's a facile, childish argument. "Oh but what about the issues we have here?" What about them? They don't negate the fact that there are issues elsewhere.

BusterGonad · 16/06/2022 13:27

Hollipolly · 16/06/2022 13:20

@BusterGonad it was not a dig at you. I was agreeing with you.

So explain Windrush??? Peoplewho have lived and born in UK facing deportation??

There wasa recent Somalian blogger that won her case probably due to the fact her story went viral.

Please tell me about these "rights" when it came to wind rush? @pixie5121

Oh, ha ha. Sorry I wasn't sure because I then went on to say that I'm fed up of Muslim countries.

Hollipolly · 16/06/2022 13:34

@pixie5121 educate yourself its happened to British born people here too. Don't go judging too quickly because it's sheer luck where you happen to be born.

Its not facile. You are being one sided.