Flight to Rwanda

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I’d love to get a flight to Rwanda. Beautiful country and people ( I’ve been there before) but I don’t understand why refugees to the U.K. should go there.

Maybe you would if you were escaping a murderous regime 🙄

Thank god there's some empathic sensible posters on this thread.

Yes to Jott, AnnieSnap and MrsShrutte

I am hating the ignorance on this thread

Right. So if your children were starving (economic migrant) and you left, you wouldn't try to get to a country where you had family (and therefore resources and maybe housing) and spoke the language (because of racist colonialism)? Bullshit.

Having seen the average British person abroad, I'm guessing 90% of them would need to be somewhere English speaking. Because they can't fathom learning another language but Johnny Foreigner definitely can.

And yes, Rwanda is lovely. But kwashiorkor, infectious hepatitis, dysentery, malaria, and tuberculosis for staters.

Humanity has a long history of sending children/women/vulnerable people to live with their aunt in the country/cousin in America/uncle abroad during difficult times, including wars.

I personally am struggling to understand why Ukrainian refugees aren't being sent to Rwanda. I have no idea what separates Ukrainian refugees and African, Middle eastern refugees. I wonder what could be the difference between these two groups. I've thought about it at length and have absolutely zero clue what the difference is. None whatsoever.

Yes, that's qwhite the conundrum...

I wonder what could be the difference between these two groups.

Oooo I know Miss.

It's the same reason people complain about 'immigrants' to me when I've lived in three different countries. And look bemused when I point out I've been one. Twice.

Allowing people to apply from outside the UK, as is being done for refugees from Ukraine, would be a sensible and humane first step.

Unfortunately we have a government that is neither and a population that seems to want them to stay that way.

Having relatives and speaking the language means it's easier to find work - if the UK (which is crying out for workers) would allow refugees to work. Which it doesn't.

exactly, if the goverment where serious about stopping traffickers then they would sort this before anything else.

The amount of people who have a “not our problem” attitude is shocking.

Because if you are seeking asylum you're supposed to be fleeing for your life or in imminent peril, you dont start shopping around for the country that's your preference or going to give you the best deal.
And if the fact is that you just want to settle in the UK you should be prepared to go through the same processes that legal migrants go through.

Plenty of economic migrants crossing the channel have been granted asylum seeker status in a system that has been incredibly lax.

@cottagegardenflower that is what the government want you to believe, that the majority of these people are economic migrants. Reality is that 75% of those arriving this way have their applications approved. So that's not true, is it?
In reality, it is a disgraceful, racist policy. It is shameful that we are doing this. A tory MP admitted on LBC the other day that this was a good policy from those arriving from other nations (not Ukraine) because "Ukrainians don't come here expecting us to tear down our statues and forget our history....".
It's disgusting. Anyone who thinks different is allowing themselves to be brainwashed by the British mainstream media.

And if the fact is that you just want to settle in the UK you should be prepared to go through the same processes that legal migrants go through.

What are those processes? How do you apply for asylum without coming to the UK when there is no way to do so?

Because if you are seeking asylum you're supposed to be fleeing for your life or in imminent peril, you dont start shopping around for the country that's your preference or going to give you the best deal.

Of course you would. I would. They do. Why wouldn't you seek safety somewhere you actually like, which offers the best chance of success?

I know a lot of refugees. And they are people. Just like us. My lovely Libyan friend sometimes mentions little snippets of absolutely horrifying events. Should she have stayed in a dreadful refugee camp. Or her nice front room, somewhere safe, where her delightful girl gets to be friends with my delightful girl?

BTW I'm biased because she helped my child when she was being bullied. A warm, wonderful person who adds something everywhere she goes.

Hmm yes its mind boggling why Ukrainian refugees who go through the correct application processes established specifically during a period of crisis in Ukraine arent processed in the same way as people coming here illegally on boats.

Exactly @Mrsschrute. And why should people who have fled their countries not be allowed to settle in countries their relatives are in? Or because they speak English and not French? Why should they have no choice about where to sirens the rest of their lives?
If we had to leave the UK because we were being bombed or feared for our lives, would we not hope to have some opinion about where we may wish to settle?!

The amount of people who have a “not our problem” attitude is shocking.

It isn't about a 'not our problem' attitude. Many people were willing to roll out the red carpet for Ukrainians. Even Eurostar waived tickets, government ministers spoke of housing them, processing centres were opened up, the government offered a few hundred pounds a month to British people who were prepared to house them. The attitude is squarely about these refugees not being white. I can tell you that because I too am not white and not being white quite literally affects every part of your entire life. The thing is now it's just so open it's remarkable. Whiteness must be the best acid trip.

Hmm yes its mind boggling why Ukrainian refugees who go through the correct application processes established specifically during a period of crisis in Ukraine arent processed in the same way as people coming here illegally on boats.

Why is the application process in Ukraine in a period of crisis different to the application process in Sudan during a similar crisis. Especially as Britain is partially responsible for the state of Sudan.

But their isn’t a process for them to claim asaylum until they are in the country so what do you suggest they do?

Ukraine suffered an out of the blue attack. The men are staying and defending their country. They aren’t all here trying to find a way to stay with long lost relatives

Its not the same as endless civil wars and young men with nothing to lose trying to make it over.
To be fair I’d let any amount of women and children in from anywhere . Men will have to stay in their home country where they can swing their dicks all they want

YABU.

The government are absolutely correct to be deporting these illegal immigrants, and action on this issue is long overdue.

If we are going to maintain public consent for legal immigration of the highly skilled workers Britain needs, we have to get serious about stopping uncontrolled mass illegal immigration. If the ECHR stands in the way, its jurisdiction must be removed.

Different culture to what though? Surely the UK is a different culture too.

@PlanetNormal *asylum seekers. Fixed it for you

If heaven forbid I had to flee to another country to protect myself and my family of course I would be aiming to get to a country where I had friends/family who could help me. Wouldn’t everyone?

You do know that for every asylum seeker sent to Rwanda, there is a reciprocal agreement in place that the UK will accept ten Rwandan immigrants who - for whatever reason - cannot continue to live in Rwanda?

@100yellowdaisies if you believe that refugees from any other country have been afforded the same treatment/opportunities/care as refugees from any other country you are seriously deluded...