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To be concerned that the Depp/Heard trial has put off genuine DV victims from coming forward?

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PetraBP · 09/06/2022 09:23

The Depp/Heard trial was troubling to me.

On the one hand, people do sometimes make false allegations, especially after relationship breakups.

On the other hand, dragging someone to court for alleging domestic violence might deter some women from reporting it.

Assuming the court got it right and Depp was not a perpetrator, how could he have handled the situation so that it would not put domestic violence victims off coming forward for fear of being sued?

Worrying all round.

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TiddyTidTwo · 10/06/2022 20:45

Plus Eve Barlow was kicked out of the courtroom and this disgusting twat of a man was in the courtroom as part of her team but when this story broke, disappeared from the cameras.

She hasn't got rid of him though as photographed with him again today

Pumperthepumper · 10/06/2022 20:46

TiddyTidTwo · 10/06/2022 20:42

If she comes forward with allegations I'd believe Eve. Difficult one when there's two women isn't it?

Also ambers need PR rep. Both spotted getting off a private jet today. AH a representative of the MeToo movement

I'll tell you now, she does not care about women. This isn't the only source, there are plenty.

www.newsweek.com/why-amber-heard-spin-doctor-facing-his-own-pr-nightmare-johnny-depp-trial-1708601

Why is it different when it’s two women? It’s perfectly likely Amber Heard could be abusive again.

Its also perfectly likely that Johnny Depp could be abusive again. Would you encourage your daughter to come forward, and face the TikToks and the memes and the vitriol?

TiddyTidTwo · 10/06/2022 20:49

"Would you encourage your daughter to come forward, and face the TikToks and the memes and the vitriol?"

Absolutely. Wouldn't you?

TiddyTidTwo · 10/06/2022 20:50

Anyway, AH and her sex pest PR guy. Why is he still working with her, flying on private jets, with those allegations when she's "believe all women"?

Pumperthepumper · 10/06/2022 20:51

TiddyTidTwo · 10/06/2022 20:49

"Would you encourage your daughter to come forward, and face the TikToks and the memes and the vitriol?"

Absolutely. Wouldn't you?

Definitely, definitely not. No way.

Pumperthepumper · 10/06/2022 20:51

TiddyTidTwo · 10/06/2022 20:50

Anyway, AH and her sex pest PR guy. Why is he still working with her, flying on private jets, with those allegations when she's "believe all women"?

Surely the bigger problem there is that he’s a sex pest?

TiddyTidTwo · 10/06/2022 20:53

No pumper she can't be a victim and said all she's said and keep him close by for her own gain.

Would you?

Pumperthepumper · 10/06/2022 20:54

TiddyTidTwo · 10/06/2022 20:53

No pumper she can't be a victim and said all she's said and keep him close by for her own gain.

Would you?

She can definitely still be a victim and he can still be a sex pest.

TiddyTidTwo · 10/06/2022 20:55

I'm a victim of SA and DV and face my cultures wrath

Btw my PR guy.....he's not included.

Come on!

TiddyTidTwo · 10/06/2022 20:55

"She can definitely still be a victim and he can still be a sex pest"

Of course.

But she knows of the allegations and she's ignoring it.

TiddyTidTwo · 10/06/2022 20:56

And she's paying him.

MrsSkylerWhite · 10/06/2022 20:58

Yes, you are.

my mum was beaten to a pulp for 13 years. What some “celebrity” or other was doing would have m had absolutely no bearing on her life whatsoever.

Pumperthepumper · 10/06/2022 20:59

TiddyTidTwo · 10/06/2022 20:55

"She can definitely still be a victim and he can still be a sex pest"

Of course.

But she knows of the allegations and she's ignoring it.

She isn’t responsible for his behaviour.

JamieNorthlife · 10/06/2022 20:59

With the text messages - He handed over all of his communications and devices as per court orders. Those messages were never intended for her to read. They were between him and his friend and he explained that they used a Monty python dialogue. Go check it out instead of getting offended about it.

I'm sure many people here pretending to be offended may in the past communicated with a friend and/or bitched about a partner.

Those messages were taken by the legal team by mistake and she handed them to the Sun newspaper for the Uk trial.

From all that she caused him of doing, having those messages and a couple of photoshopped photos.... makes me really question how gullible some people are or perhaps they are in denial and cannot believe that she could be lying. Well, she was very believable when she told that the donated the money to the children's Hospital. But now they found out that she lied. She said she used pledge and donation as the same thing.

She did not hand over her messages, photos or devices as per the court order. If you check the information by the IT expert, she was supposed to hand over photos and devices and she only provided the ones shown in the trial which after being analysed by the experts were copies or photoshopped. She showed the same photo and said it was from 2 different events and dates.

It's all very shady. Some of her friends who were deposed did not go and her team had to use some old recorded depositions from 2016 and 2019.

Again, if anyone watches the videos, can see that she pretty much considered everyone to the lying except her. Also, the fake crying and she copied Rebeka Vardy's story about the threats to her children.

KTheGrey · 10/06/2022 21:01

Hopefully his next girlfriend will go straight to the police if he is abusive to her. But I don't know if he'll have a next girlfriend; he seems less keen these days. Bafflingly. She's on about her 5th partner since Depp, and none has come forward - either to accuse her, or to support her at the trial.

TiddyTidTwo · 10/06/2022 21:01

Pumper

As one of the faces of MeToo don't you think she should fire him??

You're being an apologist for her now when you know damn well you wouldn't employ him or have him anywhere near you.

She's not only a liar but also a hypocrite

Pumperthepumper · 10/06/2022 21:02

KTheGrey · 10/06/2022 21:01

Hopefully his next girlfriend will go straight to the police if he is abusive to her. But I don't know if he'll have a next girlfriend; he seems less keen these days. Bafflingly. She's on about her 5th partner since Depp, and none has come forward - either to accuse her, or to support her at the trial.

Would you?

Pumperthepumper · 10/06/2022 21:02

TiddyTidTwo · 10/06/2022 21:01

Pumper

As one of the faces of MeToo don't you think she should fire him??

You're being an apologist for her now when you know damn well you wouldn't employ him or have him anywhere near you.

She's not only a liar but also a hypocrite

She’s completely irrelevant to him being a sex pest though. I don’t understand why you think he’s her responsibility?

TiddyTidTwo · 10/06/2022 21:06

Pumper ffs she's his employer and aware of the allegations. She's in the position of power

She testified she has PTSD and no one is allowed to touch her or say anything in certain because of all she's been through, apparently. But her PR guy photographed by her side, with those allegations.....

Honestly...

JamieNorthlife · 10/06/2022 21:06

Well if she is that concerned about women's rights, she should not be hiring this type of men. He is creepy.

Oh wait.... she is only using women's rights and metoo for her own gain.

Pumperthepumper · 10/06/2022 21:10

TiddyTidTwo · 10/06/2022 21:06

Pumper ffs she's his employer and aware of the allegations. She's in the position of power

She testified she has PTSD and no one is allowed to touch her or say anything in certain because of all she's been through, apparently. But her PR guy photographed by her side, with those allegations.....

Honestly...

Maybe she’s seen some text messages he sent and therefore doesn’t believe his accusers? Who knows?

She’s still not responsible for his behaviour.

Pumperthepumper · 10/06/2022 21:10

JamieNorthlife · 10/06/2022 21:06

Well if she is that concerned about women's rights, she should not be hiring this type of men. He is creepy.

Oh wait.... she is only using women's rights and metoo for her own gain.

What has she gained?

TiddyTidTwo · 10/06/2022 21:12

"Maybe she’s seen some text messages he sent and therefore doesn’t believe his accusers? Who knows?

She’s still not responsible for his behaviour*"
*
Jesus wept.

Throw his accuser, a woman, under the bus then.

Ides · 10/06/2022 21:12

She's a vile, horrible and clearly abusive woman. And he was her victim.

Ach, I don't know ... it's as though there's still, even in this day and age, the ghost of the eternally weak, delicate and fragile 'damsel in distress' figure hovering in the minds of even the most avowedly feminist of women. The upshot just must be that the man's the bully and the woman's the bullied.

Heads up: Heard was the bully in this case. It does not matter that Depp is male and it does not matter that he's the wealthier and the more powerful. Heard abused Depp, and that is that. I think it's time we all got past our tears, wiped our pretty nosies, and got the f**k past that, because it's pretty undeniably true, to everyone who actually watched the damned trial.

This is getting ridiculous and pathetic, now. There's only so far weaponised fragility can take women, just as there was only so far it could take Amber Heard. Dab your eyes, blow your noses and move the feck on.

Pumperthepumper · 10/06/2022 21:14

TiddyTidTwo · 10/06/2022 21:12

"Maybe she’s seen some text messages he sent and therefore doesn’t believe his accusers? Who knows?

She’s still not responsible for his behaviour*"
*
Jesus wept.

Throw his accuser, a woman, under the bus then.

What does that mean? I don’t believe he’s innocent. I don’t believe she is. I believe she’s not responsible for him being a sex pest, because she isn’t.

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