To be concerned that the Depp/Heard trial has put off genuine DV victims from coming forward?

[PetraBP]

The Depp/Heard trial was troubling to me.

On the one hand, people do sometimes make false allegations, especially after relationship breakups.

On the other hand, dragging someone to court for alleging domestic violence might deter some women from reporting it.

Assuming the court got it right and Depp was not a perpetrator, how could he have handled the situation so that it would not put domestic violence victims off coming forward for fear of being sued?

Worrying all round.

It’s also true that he abused her.

@Ides

Exactly.

And moving on was my first post on here. Grab the incentive this trial has created. But no, we must be pulled back...even when it clear what has happened

Like I said, it's been overwhelming the mutual support. Men coming forward, women supporting then, men supporting women (not shutting them down). It's the apologists for a clear and proven liar and abuser cannot accept a woman can behave like this. Actually I don't think it's even that, I think it's deep inside they want women to always have to be the victim.

Not this one.

What has she gained?

what a silly question.... until this trial she was getting paid to represent DV, she got ambassador roles, was meeting politicians and had a boost to her career. She was in many tv interviews saying how she donated the money and blah blah blah. lying was very easy for her.

Nobody, ever, has said that women can’t behave like this. It’s just something that’s repeated over and over again to justify misogyny. You want Amber Heard to be responsible for the woes of all the men in her life and she’s not. She abusive, but so is Johnny Depp. This case is nothing more than a toxic relationship made public.

She had the vast majority of that anyway. She must have known that going up against someone as rich and famous as Depp would result in misery. Do you think his next girlfriend will do it if he abuser her?

I got from this trial that real victims should seek help and will be believed.

People lying about abuse can no longer keep pretending to be victims.

I have close friends that suffered from DV and they had to move to shelters with their children.

My brother was abused by a narcissistic woman. She made his life hell, he raised their kids but she threatened to take them away. He was so scared of her, in the end, he was just a shell of his former self. She did not even want us to attend the funeral.

We tolerate her for the kids. We need to keep in touch with them at least until they are old enough to understand that they are loved. She just keeps lying and lying. Its very upsetting.

No pumper. You've deliberately tried to protect AH although she employs a disgusting misogynist sex pest and claim that's not in her control l. It absolutely IS and she doesn't care and you won't accept that.

You claim to see both sides but you're revealing what you really think

Where did I protect Amber Heard? I’ve said absolutely nothing in defence of her. Nothing.

@JamieNorthlife

I'm so sorry. I know what a narc does as does my DH. He experienced the same.

pumper

All of your replies are hardcore defence of Amanda heard.

What are your views on the fact that she abused her ex-wife, her sister, her ex-best friend and her assistant? Those women don't count, they don't deserve to be protected?

By the way, she is being protected by the richest man in the world.

"Maybe she’s seen some text messages he sent and therefore doesn’t believe his accusers? Who knows?

She’s still not responsible for his behaviour"

@Pumperthepumper

@TiddyTidTwo

Thank you. We are still so traumatised by what she has done. And she is so mean to the kids.

Wtf, how is that ‘protecting’ her? That’s the complete opposite of protecting her! Do you think she’s responsible for his behaviour?

Do you know the first rule of misogyny?

Not one of my posts defends Amber Heard. Not one. I’ve said repeatedly she’s an abuser. She’s abusive. So is Johnny Depp.

Pumper** come on now...you're verging into gaslighting now.

For the last 6 years she's played a part, the victim, the strong woman we all need to rely on because she's suffered abuse, sexual assault and domestic violence.

She then employs DURING THE TRIAL a man with allegations against him, and pays him and continues to pay him, keeping him in close quarters. She's his employer.

She doesn't care. Do you not see that?

But so what if she doesn’t care? She’s hardly the centre of the moral universe! What difference does she make to him being a sex pest?

JamieNorthlife
So do you support the victims of his assaults in the past?

@PetraBP

In what world do you believe only women can be “survivors of abuse?”

I’m a survivor. And while I’m a woman, and while there’s the “believe all women” narrative out there, I certainly don’t buy into it.

There was Tara Reade, who accused Joe Biden of sexual assault. She changed her story about a dozen times. I felt, after listening to her and watching her, that she was about as believable as a £9 bill.

Same with Amber Heard’s pitiful “performance” in court. In no world was she believable, with her “crying” and looking intently at the jurors and her 1920’s hairdos (sorry, that was mean). I know for a fact that when you’ve been abused, the shame prevents you from meeting people in the eye when speaking on such topics. She was pure Sarah Heartburn.

In the 50+ years since my rape, my story has never changed, my need to embellish has never materialized and I never felt the need to trash my rapist on an international scale. I never wanted ANYONE to know my humiliation. Plus, my rapist convinced me, at 15, that it was all my fault. He was in his 60s.

My rapist, after years of harassment on his side, killed himself and left a note confessing to everything. It didn’t make me as happy as I thought it would - but I was relieved.

I was relieved that I could finally put it down.
I won. That fucking bastard lost.

But if you think only women can be abused, then you didn’t listen for five minutes to Mr. Depp, and you certainly did no research into the subject before you wrote this post.

I ask you to please, for all survivors, reconsider.

"But so what if she doesn’t care? "

That's why she finally lost.

JamieNorthlife
Will you support the victim in his upcoming trial for assault given you support male victims and are pleased more will come forward. Will you support this male victim he created?

I don’t see your point. She’s still not responsible for him being a sex pest.

bigfootisreal

How about you?
Do you support her victims?
Or you are just trying to be funny?

Don't try to gaslight me, people like you make me sick.

"I ask you to please, for all survivors, reconsider"

❤️

"I don’t see your point. She’s still not responsible for him being a sex pest"

Like the BBC employing and covering for Saville.

So you think she’s enabling him to sexually abuse more women?