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To be concerned that the Depp/Heard trial has put off genuine DV victims from coming forward?

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PetraBP · 09/06/2022 09:23

The Depp/Heard trial was troubling to me.

On the one hand, people do sometimes make false allegations, especially after relationship breakups.

On the other hand, dragging someone to court for alleging domestic violence might deter some women from reporting it.

Assuming the court got it right and Depp was not a perpetrator, how could he have handled the situation so that it would not put domestic violence victims off coming forward for fear of being sued?

Worrying all round.

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Pumperthepumper · 10/06/2022 22:59

TiddyTidTwo · 10/06/2022 22:57

"Would you support your daughter going public against Depp?"

Yes

Why?

TiddyTidTwo · 10/06/2022 22:59

Pumper

Is it?

Well shame on me for being against her supporting financially and employing a sex pest

TiddyTidTwo · 10/06/2022 23:00

Well you don't know my daughter, but I do and I've supported her in a previous allegation, wholeheartedly.

My daughter isn't a narcissist liar though

Pumperthepumper · 10/06/2022 23:02

TiddyTidTwo · 10/06/2022 23:00

Well you don't know my daughter, but I do and I've supported her in a previous allegation, wholeheartedly.

My daughter isn't a narcissist liar though

One where she had to go public against a very, very famous man? And just accept that people would be on here complaining that she was just after money or that she was lying?

TiddyTidTwo · 10/06/2022 23:04

Pumper**

I have two words for you.

Btw your empathy towards real victims, sucks

Pumperthepumper · 10/06/2022 23:05

I’m not the one here saying people are lying when they accuse Johnny Depp. I’m not the one blaming women for a man’s sexual abuse. I’m not the one saying they’re all after money. That’s all on you.

spirit20 · 10/06/2022 23:05

I think it will hopefully shift the narrative around male victims of DV and encourage more of them to come forward and realise that they'll be believed. It's a shame it had to take such a high profile case for such a change to come about though.

bigfootisreal · 10/06/2022 23:06

You mean like the empathy you have shown the real victims of JD?

TiddyTidTwo · 10/06/2022 23:06

"I’m not the one here saying people are lying when they accuse Johnny Depp. I’m not the one blaming women for a man’s sexual abuse. I’m not the one saying they’re all after money. That’s all on you."

DARVO.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 10/06/2022 23:07

One where she had to go public against a very, very famous man? And just accept that people would be on here complaining that she was just after money or that she was lying?

nope….I wouldn’t

i read the other day that as women we hold ourselves to a higher standard than our daughters….that resonated with me

if i was attacked I would absolutely take it to court….my daughter? Not so much

TiddyTidTwo · 10/06/2022 23:09

"You mean like the empathy you have shown the real victims of JD?"

YOU TOO. DARVO

Your wilful ignorance to facts an blindness to people who have tried to tell their own stories then pretending you haven't been is very very telling.

Triptop · 10/06/2022 23:09

@tackling Thank you for sharing that article. I think everyone should read it.

People sit on juries, so it's really important for everyone to have a proper understanding.

Pumperthepumper · 10/06/2022 23:10

spirit20 · 10/06/2022 23:05

I think it will hopefully shift the narrative around male victims of DV and encourage more of them to come forward and realise that they'll be believed. It's a shame it had to take such a high profile case for such a change to come about though.

It won’t though. There’s already posters on here saying his male victim (court case in July) is lying for money.

Pumperthepumper · 10/06/2022 23:11

I don’t think you know what Darvo means.

TiddyTidTwo · 10/06/2022 23:13

"It won’t though. There’s already posters on here saying his male victim (court case in July) is lying for money."

It won't because of people like YOU. On a thread like like, sarcastic, questioning others experiences and pretending you're not an abuser apologist because she's a woman.

It's you. Constantly trying to shut people down whilst pretending to debate

bigfootisreal · 10/06/2022 23:14

TiddyTidTwo

I hope you are not also accusing me of being abusive given that is defamation if you are. Not a good idea to falsely accuse people is it now?

Calling DARVO is an insult to victims, how insensitive to victims of abuse by saying that when I said you lacked empathy because I had not seen something earlier.

That is like me saying to you I think maybe your abuse towards me is because of my disability when you know nothing of it. False accusations will get you nowhere.

Pumperthepumper · 10/06/2022 23:14

TiddyTidTwo · 10/06/2022 23:13

"It won’t though. There’s already posters on here saying his male victim (court case in July) is lying for money."

It won't because of people like YOU. On a thread like like, sarcastic, questioning others experiences and pretending you're not an abuser apologist because she's a woman.

It's you. Constantly trying to shut people down whilst pretending to debate

No, it’s people like YOU who say his victims are just lying, too smiley on Instagram and just looking for money. Not good enough victims. That and your overwhelming misogyny.

TiddyTidTwo · 10/06/2022 23:15

"It won’t though. There’s already posters on here saying his male victim (court case in July) is lying for money."

Poor effort. Case hasn't got to court yet and multiple times told you to look at the depositions availabile online. But you won't do that. You'll post this instead.

Hence pushing your narrative.

FrippEnos · 10/06/2022 23:15

Pumperthepumper · 10/06/2022 23:05

I’m not the one here saying people are lying when they accuse Johnny Depp. I’m not the one blaming women for a man’s sexual abuse. I’m not the one saying they’re all after money. That’s all on you.

That is an interesting way of twisting someone's words to suit your own narrative.

TiddyTidTwo · 10/06/2022 23:15

"No, it’s people like YOU who say his victims are just lying"

Amber did lie.

bigfootisreal · 10/06/2022 23:17

TiddyTidTwo
Who has been an abuser apologist to a woman?

Pumperthepumper · 10/06/2022 23:17

FrippEnos · 10/06/2022 23:15

That is an interesting way of twisting someone's words to suit your own narrative.

That poster said all of those things. No twisting here. All here to read, along with a healthy dollop of misogyny.

TiddyTidTwo · 10/06/2022 23:17

"That and your overwhelming misogyny"

That's given me the green light to use this word. Misandrist

Pumperthepumper · 10/06/2022 23:18

TiddyTidTwo · 10/06/2022 23:17

"That and your overwhelming misogyny"

That's given me the green light to use this word. Misandrist

Misandry? How so?

TiddyTidTwo · 10/06/2022 23:20

"I hope you are not also accusing me of being abusive given that is defamation if you are. Not a good idea to falsely accuse people is it now?

Calling DARVO is an insult to victims, how insensitive to victims of abuse by saying that when I said you lacked empathy because I had not seen something earlier.

That is like me saying to you I think maybe your abuse towards me is because of my disability when you know nothing of it. False accusations will get you nowhere."

Like you did to that poster?

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