To be concerned that the Depp/Heard trial has put off genuine DV victims from coming forward?

[PetraBP]

The Depp/Heard trial was troubling to me.

On the one hand, people do sometimes make false allegations, especially after relationship breakups.

On the other hand, dragging someone to court for alleging domestic violence might deter some women from reporting it.

Assuming the court got it right and Depp was not a perpetrator, how could he have handled the situation so that it would not put domestic violence victims off coming forward for fear of being sued?

Worrying all round.

@bigfootisreal

You need to look at the depositions and many many witness statements available on line for that one. A complete chancer who hopped on the back of Heard thinking Depp would lose, to gain a quick buck.

Bet he doesn't even turn up for that one now this verdict is in.

Absolutely this. I watched it too. Some very deluded posters on here.

JamieNorthlife
Who even said I supported her?
Is that a question you can't answer?
Not gaslighting just wondering who you will support given he has assaulted other people and created other male victims. Surely you support all male victims?

"So you think she’s enabling him to sexually abuse more women?"

You're just being obtuse now.

So what’s the connection to Savile?

TiddyTidTwo
Bet he doesn't even turn up for that one now this verdict is in.

You mean like the other person who didn't turn up to court when they were giving evidence against him. Oh sorry, he just disappeared and has never been found. Maybe he will also go missing like that last one too. Who knows?

Pumper do you have an issue with women who disagree with you. You don't engage on the points, just post back shit. It's very clear what I'm saying.

Yeah, texts, messages via messenger/whatsapp/irc.. actual conversations, people used to have those!

Violence to peoples genitals, rape with various objects, all manner of painful deaths.

Read out of context, make me look like an abusive raging lunatic who wants locking up.

However read in the tone of voice I had in mind at the time of writing, with the full context..

These were fantastical discussions, fuelled by quite a lot of brandy, about what we'd do if we:

Found the guy who had molested a neighbours 7 year old girl, he was running from the police at the time..

Found the unknown person who was shooting cats with an air-rifle and also strangling and hanging them up in the woods...

Etc etc - all situations that would never actually happen, and expressions of extreme distress, rage, frustration and powerlessness.. and alcohol.

We actually did 'catch' (ie SEE him going back into his flat under cover of darkness. ) the paedo...

We.... bravely rang the police whilst watching his door. They came and picked him up. At no point did either of us stick anything sharp up his backside or grate his balls off with a lemonjuice laced cheesegrater.

What people say and talk about to others is not a true indicator of what that person might DO.

I am engaging, and it isn’t clear at all what you meant by the BBC and Savile connection to Amber Heard, if not that she’s enabling her PR guy to abuse. What exactly did you mean by that comment?

@WiddlinDiddlin

Christ I thought mine were bad 😂

But yes, you are right but fgs doing point out real life on here.

@Pumperthepumper you're excusing AH for employing a sex pest. A man who has allegedly abused a woman saying it's nothing to do with Amber. Not her fault. Even though she's aware

Like all those with power who have done the same. It's very clear what I meant

But it’s not her fault that he’s a sex pest!

JamieNorthlife
I'm not abusing you I am asking a question you seem unable to answer and now saying I have insulted you when I have no even mentioned your family at all.

I have no agenda as previously pointed out you can't show me where I have supported AH at all and less of the 'abuse'. I asked you a basic question of which you are claiming abuse to try and deflect away from the answer.

You are quite ok to challenge other people with your ideas but when someone says the same in reply it is abuse? If you can challenge others, why is it not ok for people to challenge you. Is it your way or the highway?

@bigfootisreal

JamieNorthlife
Will you support the victim in his upcoming trial for assault given you support male victims and are pleased more will come forward. Will you support this male victim he created?

First of all it's alledged victim and research further, it's just another hanger on.

Secondly, what I find abhorrent, is when someone posts about a horrendous situation they've experience, you post back shit like this.

And we are all supposed to be women together, right?

Wrong. There's an element I see time and time again that have an agenda, and will put down and bully survivors.

TiddyTidTwo
So what you are saying is it is a male who is pretending to be a victim and lying?

What is abhorrent about someone who has posted in support of men and I ask if that is all men? Surely when that person is engaging in challenging others but then can't take it back. At no point was this to do with their family.

@TiddyTidTwo

Thanks. I appreciate your reply.

That Op was just trying to bully me.

It is a debating forum for debate. Not a bully at all, clearly no idea what bullying is. I asked a question FFS.

"What is abhorrent about someone who has posted in support of men and I ask if that is all men? Surely when that person is engaging in challenging others but then can't take it back. At no point was this to do with their family."

That poster lost her brother through abuse by a narc.

You didn't even absorb that did you? All you saw was "she's protecting men" blinded by it.

I think it’s very clear that a lot of Depp apologists won’t support a male victim either. Which was the point of this thread - I think the lesson we can all learn is, if you’re abused by someone in the public eye, you’re on your own.

TiddyTidTwo

I didn't read that post so how could I absorb it when I hadn't read anything about her brother at all. You are assuming quite a lot.

No not at all, nothing to do with that and everything to do with curiosity about who will be supported when he has created his own victims of which he admits to. Many people who support JD will not support the male victims he created for some reason.

Pumperthepumper
So true, they support JD not male victims which is very clear.

"Depp apologists won’t support a male victim either."

@Pumperthepumper grow up. I'm married to one, as well as being a survivor myself.

You assume a lot, you're arrogant and sarcastic and you and your mates bully posters on her that have suffered abuse.

Nothing new.

I'll stand up to you all day.

"I didn't read that post so how could I absorb it when I hadn't read anything about her brother at all. You are assuming quite a lot"

Nope. She pointed it out to you then you doubled down.

You said it upthread. You don’t support his new accuser either. What’s the incentive for men to come forward then?