To be shocked by the leavers jumpers

[Itsmytreehouse]

My dd is leaving primary school this July and we have been sent a link to order leaver jumpers.
The design has their school name and year on the front in large letters and on the back their teachers name and class mates names (including surname) with hand written messages of good luck printed all over.
I might be over reacting but I’m seeing it as a safeguarding concern that these kids will be wearing them around showing their name and school in public. (They’ve been asked to wear them to school for all next term as part of their leavers production outfit)
Should I point this out to the school or forget about it?

Don’t be ridiculous. If there is a good reason to exclude a child’s name from a jumper- exclude it or just put their first name. No one is at risk because someone else’s name is on a jumper.

As a pp who was a foster child sue to abuse pointed out too, it’s extremely rare that the school and name of a child (such as a vulnerable foster child) is not a fact well known to the family they have been removed from in any event.

well theres no way you could murder someone unless you saw their name on a hoodie first.

But if those Adults had close enough contact with a child to be able to read the details on their hoody they would also have close enough contact to say to them “I think my friends child Jack Jones” is in your class.

I get why people are concerned about this but I think in the grand scheme of things the risk of anything from this is tiny. It’s very different from photos on social media etc

Well good for you, all of you who live in a bubble where no child is at risk from family members who don't know their whereabouts, to the extent that you feel able to make light of it. Nice.

It is a GDPR issue, the school need to have the parents consent print a child's name on the hoodie and a privacy Notice would have to be issued both an adult and child friendly version prior to using personal data in this way. The school does not have a lawful basis of printing these names on hoodie s and are therefore acting unlawfully and could be fined quite a lot. lot

See also, photos at nativity plays, and posting them on social media.

It’s also about balancing the risk and ensuring that the child doesn’t grow up petrified of living.

Ours had first names only.

Those hoodies are a bit daft. They wear them for an afternoon and then never wear them again. And it's not like you can put them in a clothes bank afterward.

Breaking GDPR, maybe, with the use of both first and last. Safeguarding concern nah.

This.

I'm experienced in safeguarding but even I find this a stretch. It's the way things are going though and I expect they'll be a thing of the past in a few years, sadly.

Its about human rights, that children also have. The right to privacy and determination about the use of their data.

People really need to educate themselves on GDPR before citing it..

The vast vast majority of children in care see their parents still and if they dont see their parents its often not because there is a no contact order, most parents of children in care come to reviews and know what school a child goes to

However schools still need to double check in case there is a no contact order in place or parents are not entitled to know what school the child goes to

Normal. These have been around for years. If you're so concerned don't buy one or don't include your child's name. Simple

When my DC got their leavers, I think (if memory serves) I had to consent to have name added as part of the ordering...

Same here. First off they asked for what we wanted and I asked for my dd first name. Then got a message on day before ordering that it would look odd with some children getting first name and others full and so everyone was having full names. I just acquiesced and said ok np as I don't think they will wear them much anyway and I didn't want to be that person (who wasn't organising anything but complained about what the volunteers were doing). FWIW I agree with you though. Just why do they need surnames?

Lol. Some names on a jumper is a nice memento for kids who went to school together. As long as the parents have consented there’s no safeguarding or gdpr issue. Nor is there any human rights issue.

I think gdpr is very poorly understood in the public sector. In any event this should not be an issue. No one is getting fined for a jumper with some names of a school some kids used to go that the parents have consented to.

YANBU if their name is in large letters as well as the school. My son's has the school and his initials in 2 inch letters on the front, and full class names on the back. The full names are tiny.

The vast majority of children are in care due to abuse/neglect or a combination of those two things.

However the number of children who dont have contact with their parents still due to a no contact order is very small, out of nearly 100 kids Im working with now I dont have any. I do have some who are not seeing their parents because they dont want to anymore/not interested or where the parents just seem to opt out but in those cases the parents still know the school the child goes to.
Unless there are specific reasons for it, parents get all the information from each review which contains information about school and other day to day information about their child. They still have PR for their child.

How is it not a GDPR issue? It involves the processing of personal data, and the OP's school are doing this without consent. While consent is not required for every use of personal data, I can't think of an exemption that would apply to school jumpers. But happy to be corrected.

ico.org.uk/for-organisations/guide-to-data-protection/guide-to-the-general-data-protection-regulation-gdpr/key-definitions/what-is-personal-data/

How can it not be. Because the information is collected and collected electronically or in lists or other similar formats. The act of sharing that information, probably by email or even printing a list of names all fall under the GDPRs definition of processing. The jumper makers must have stored the information on their systems and mostly the act of printing is electronic or digital these days. The school is only entitled to process children's data for reasons relating to their role as an educator 2hich is certainly not jumpers. Therefore they need consent and this needs to be managed. In order to create the jumpers the children's data was shared with the printing company for non educational purposes. A due diligence would have to have been undertaken by the school before sharing that informationRemember a child's personal data would include first and last names, class , school etc. Gdpr applies to most persdata institutions such as schools and unis use unless they don't use computers at all or don't use an organised paper filing system

Numerous, gosh! How much do you think an average state school would be fined for printing some names on a shirt? Is there no other lawful basis for processing? Are you pretending that consent is required from the child and the parent?

so many questions…