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Could you forgive someone if they'd said this to you?

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OhHiRocco · 31/05/2022 22:52

"You didn't give a fuck about X when they were alive and you're only interested now because you're getting their money" (meaning inheritance)

And "you only used to do A for them because they were paying you"

I'm due to see the person that said these things to me tomorrow after almost 6 weeks of NC and I feel like I will just be expected to forgive and forget it all, but I don't know if I can. I can go into more detail if anyone wants/needs to know anything more to make an accurate judgement on if they could themselves forgive, but what they said is very much not true and it hurt me very much.

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OhHiRocco · 01/06/2022 09:51

LoveLabradors · 01/06/2022 09:23

I just do not like care homes and cannot stand seeing people I love unwell. They were frail and skinny and couldn't remember me in the end, it was too devastating to see

To be blunt though - do you honestly think anyone relishes going in to care homes / or visiting sick people they love? It is distressing and draining. If everyone took this attitude nobody would be visited and comforted. Very often care falls to one person - everyone else makes excuses as to why they can’t and in the end it boils over in to deep resentment following loss. It is a complex situation but not unusual.

And also just to add, as I didn't take in the last bit regarding care falling to one person the first time. She was NOT one person doing everything to be able to resent me or anyone else. I did his weekly shopping, my dad did other bits of shopping for him and fixed things when needed. He had carers 4 times a day and a weekly cleaner. In the 6 months before he went into the hospital/care home, she did nothing for him, she had an operation and couldn't drive for a long time and absolutely loved using it as an excuse to back off completely. She didn't even see him in this time, and only spoke to him on the phone. After I had my youngest, my sister took over my role doing his shopping and helping him with bits and bobs (tbh, she didn't really see him much or do anything for him before this point), and then when he became very unwell, she got POA for him as she is very level headed in a crisis and has some medical knowledge so she was the main point of contact iyswim. My sister was the only person allowed to see him in the care home for a long time, she dropped things off for him regularly etc. We all helped clear his house to sell (before he died, to pay for the care home fees) including my DH and my sister's DH.

She was not left to deal with anything on her own. If anything, she had the least amount of involvement in the last 2-3 years.

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OhHiRocco · 01/06/2022 09:56

RunningFromInsanity · 01/06/2022 09:49

This isn’t something I would cut my mother out of my life for.
From her point of view, you visited regularly, and got money out of it. Then when it got hard and he was in a home, you admit you couldn’t hack it and distanced yourself (no matter what your later backtracked posts say).
You don’t/shouldn’t really get to opt in and out of family life when it gets hard. You and your DH seem to have a habit of it.

My child got the money, not me, and as I said, it was a couple of pounds here and there. And that was because SHE didn't want to do the shopping.

Not sure what you mean by back tracked posts, if you look back I actually said, she said she wouldn't hold it against me for not visiting OFTEN. I didn't say I didn't visit at all, and I've clarified that multiple times. And for a majority of the time as I have repeatedly said, there were Covid restrictions anyway, so I couldn't have gone even if I'd have wanted to. I clearly didn't distance myself or opt in and out when things got hard so I don't know where you have gotten that idea from?

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OhHiRocco · 01/06/2022 10:01

Sushi7 · 01/06/2022 09:37

So the deceased was your grandma and she split her money 4 ways. Was this equal? Did you, your sibling, your mum and the other person (your auntie/uncle?) get an equal share?

I'm not sure why your mum is angry that her mum left you and your dc some money. You’re her granddaughter and great GC ffs. Are you sure you think it would be healthy to allow your dc contact with this woman?

It was my grandfather, and the money was split into 4 equal shares that went to my Mum, my Dad, me and my sister, after care home fees were paid and money left to my kids was put aside too. There is no other extended family, no aunts or uncles, that is literally my entire family.

For all her faults, she does love them and they do love her, they'd be devastated to not be able to see her again, I can't do that to them. She's an entirely different person with them than she ever was with me, I've never seen that loving side to her before.

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BracedlnEndIessJanuary · 01/06/2022 10:02

She has lashed out, out of anger, grief, resentment, jealousy, bitterness: take your pick. If she is a good grandma, then enabling her relationship with your children is a nice thing. Repairing your relationship with your Mum depends on being the better person. It might happen in time, it may not. Just do baby steps for now.

OhHiRocco · 01/06/2022 10:08

BracedlnEndIessJanuary · 01/06/2022 10:02

She has lashed out, out of anger, grief, resentment, jealousy, bitterness: take your pick. If she is a good grandma, then enabling her relationship with your children is a nice thing. Repairing your relationship with your Mum depends on being the better person. It might happen in time, it may not. Just do baby steps for now.

Yes, I think baby steps is the best approach in this situation.

I just can't imagine saying something like that to someone. Even if it was what I thought, I'd never say it out loud.

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Meredusoleil · 01/06/2022 10:33

My mum is also a bitter twisted old woman. But, despite not being around for me when I was growing up, she adores her grandkids and treats them way better than she ever did me! I have had to reduce contact with her since Covid (from once a week to once every school holiday), but hope to never have to cut it completely. My kids would be just as upset not to see her as she would be not to see them.

OhHiRocco · 01/06/2022 10:43

Meredusoleil · 01/06/2022 10:33

My mum is also a bitter twisted old woman. But, despite not being around for me when I was growing up, she adores her grandkids and treats them way better than she ever did me! I have had to reduce contact with her since Covid (from once a week to once every school holiday), but hope to never have to cut it completely. My kids would be just as upset not to see her as she would be not to see them.

It's hard isn't it when you see them for who they truly are and your sweet innocent kids don't and hopefully never will have a clue.

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Thebeastofsleep · 01/06/2022 11:58

If it isn't true then I'd look at why they said it. Are they hurting? Feeling guilty? I wouldn't assume they believed it unless I had other reasons to. So yes, I'd probably forgive them if our relationship was otherwise good.

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 01/06/2022 12:03

OhHiRocco · 31/05/2022 23:30

I'm doing it for my kids. I won't punish this person by not allowing them to have a relationship with them. And it's difficult for the piggy in the middle not to be the piggy due to the relationship iyswim? They want us to make up, and they partly feel responsible as they half forced the conversation that lead to the comments that were made.

I'm not angst, I'm just pondering how to deal with any attempt to reconcile and wanted some opinions.

Being given money for fuel /giving kids a couple of pounds is in NO WAY BEING PAID!!

If you were getting nmw per hour... That would be being paid!!

This person sounds bizarre!

Thelnebriati · 01/06/2022 12:24

There are two meanings to the word 'forgive'; the first is that you move past what they did, and things go back to how they were before.
The second is that you accept them the way they are and don't expect them to change, and this second meaning allows you to change the way you relate to them.

You don't have to forgive and forget it all. Accept your mother is not there for you and has no right to continually hurt you, and take steps to protect yourself. Perhaps after you get through this, you might also want to consider why she is so nice to your children.

OhHiRocco · 01/06/2022 13:42

So, they have been and gone and I'm happy that the kids had a good time with them. They helped keep things light and fun, and my Sister also arrived at the same time, so it was more of a group conversation rather than any 1 on 1, so it wasn't awkward. I did answer questions politely when my Mum spoke to me directly, which was mostly just questions about the kids/baby.

There was no attempt to discuss what had happened which I think is because of the kids being around and her not wanting to say anything in front of them which I do appreciate. But, knowing her, I do think that I will get a text later saying something along the line of, thank you for letting me come round and see the kids, as she said it about 3 times on the way out. And I predict she may use that as a precursor to an apology. We will see.

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OhHiRocco · 01/06/2022 13:48

Thelnebriati · 01/06/2022 12:24

There are two meanings to the word 'forgive'; the first is that you move past what they did, and things go back to how they were before.
The second is that you accept them the way they are and don't expect them to change, and this second meaning allows you to change the way you relate to them.

You don't have to forgive and forget it all. Accept your mother is not there for you and has no right to continually hurt you, and take steps to protect yourself. Perhaps after you get through this, you might also want to consider why she is so nice to your children.

Yes, I definitely don't think everything can go back to how it was before. Not from my side anyway.

I won't ever forget what she said, and it has definitely changed the way I feel about her and our relationship.

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