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Partner has really upset me - is it him or me being sensitive??

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stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 08:31

I've NC because there's a lot of personal information in this post.

The gist of the problem is I don't feel my DP is massively supportive with helping to maintain a work family balance and sees me as the default childcare, expecting me to fit in with the demands on his job and never have the status quo upset for him with his job.

We have a 1 year old. We both work. My job is a 9-5 with some flexibility around times worked so long as I work my hours. I work 4 days a week. His job is a nightmare - FT, long shifts, unsociable hours inc evenings and nights and weekends. We have lots of arguments about how his job impacts on me and means I end up with the bulk of the childcare around my own job (we have no family support so I'm very much solo when he's not around to help).

Last night we spoke about this yet again, because he has recently finished a week of night shifts and has to do more night shifts in July. Nights impact particularly on me because DD doesn't sleep well and sleep deprivation causes a significant deterioration in my MH (DP copes a million times better than I do so he tends to most of the night wakings when I'm at work). We spoke about it a while ago and he agreed to speak to work and try and swap these shifts with colleagues who don't have children (there are usually people willing to swap as they get a week off after a week of nights). Last night I asked if he had made progress with trying to swap these shifts. He said not yet but he's asked a few colleagues. I said what's the plan if they all say no - he said I don't know. I said could you speak to your manager to see if there's any flexibility given the situation?

He then snapped at me saying "what would you do if you were a single mum? You'd have to just get on with it". I said yes but I'm not. And there's no need to snap, I'm only asking what the plan is if no one can take your night shifts.

This is part of an ongoing problem where DP hates to "rock the boat" at work - he'd rather let me and the family down than ask for support or flexibility with his manager at work. He puts work and their priorities first, all the time. He often isn't even willing to ask at work what can be done to support his family situation.

I said I don't feel that you are supporting me here; you seem annoyed by me raising this. He said yes, he is annoyed, because he doesn't want to sacrifice his week off after his July night shifts, because it precedes 2 weeks of annual leave and it would mean he got 3 consecutive weeks off. Now he will only get 2 weeks off. I said Ok, but we need to work this out as a family and what we all need, not just what you want (ie 3 weeks off). My MH could decline quite significantly with that week of nights on my own, and I might end up off work sick. But as long as you get your 3 weeks off? Seems a bit selfish.

He then said "don't say I don't support you - I took time off work when you got admitted to hospital". Two weeks after giving birth I got admitted to an MBU in an mental health crisis situation. He referenced the fact he came home from work and asked for a few extra days off on top of his paternity leave, as an example of how he supports me. I was a bit stunned tbh. He thinks this is worthy of special mention? Isn't this just what any loving partner would do? I wouldn't hesitate to ask for time off work if he was admitted to a hospital, especially 2 weeks postnatally. Maybe I'm unreasonable there and should feel grateful, who knows ...

Also, by raising the MBU experience he's rehashed a lot of trauma that I have tried to bury. I drove to work this morning with it all whirling round my mind. He knows mentioning this is triggering for me.

Who is unreasonable? Is this my problem?

I'm willing to accept AIBU if that's the majority opinion. Please, please just find a way to say it as nicely as possible. I'm not in a good place. 🙁

OP posts:
Blarting · 31/05/2022 21:16

puffalo · 31/05/2022 21:13

No harm but today you’ve:

  • worked your full shift and had time during your job to respond to nearly 20 pages of a thread apart from a tiny slot in the middle of your work day, so hardly a manic day at the office
  • gave off about your husband the whole day while he was asking for favours and got his shifts covered to make you happy
  • your partner then came home and has taken over with bedtime while you presumably relax on the sofa as you’re continuing to respond to the thread
  • your partner will do any night wakenings tonight
I really don’t see how you’re hard done by? If you were WFM today instead of spending the majority of it on Mumsnet, you could have used that time to do some of the life admin you complain about. If your partner is doing bedtime, instead of sitting on Mumsnet right now, why don’t you go to bed?

Your child was in childcare the whole day from I presume 8/9am this morning til half 5 tonight, and then your partner took over as soon as you got home, so you had to do a maximum of about 2 hours of looking after your child today.

I’m only mentioning this because you’ve described your situation as if your job is incredibly stressful and difficult, you’re always left on your own with your child and you never get a rest or sleep, so unless today was this magical once in a lifetime day, it really doesn’t seem that taxing compared to what a lot of parents have to do. I really don’t think your husband is a problem in this.

This 100%

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 21:17

RewildingAmbridge · 31/05/2022 21:08

I get s lot of what you're saying OP, I have a more senior role to DH in a profession where a fuck up by me puts lives at imminent risk. I also carried most of the mental load. When I first went back we argued a lot because he couldn't see all the things I had been doing during mat leave couldn't continue when I was back at work and couldn't just be left. I also work FT over 4 days, it's tiring.
Ultimately the agreement we came to was he needed to pull his weight properly at home not just with the odd bit of washing up and hanging out some laundry. Also that we needed a system to automate as many mental load tasks as possible. Our family Google calendar is now chock full of reminders colour coded, so if it's not my colour I ignore it and if it doesn't get done that's on him to solve not to bring to me to fix.
My partner works in a similar industry to me but at a senior practitioner level so his job can be more chaotic and can result in a panicked I'm not going to get out on time tonight can you get DS from nursery. Some of my work is more flexible and can be caught up in the evenings, so I can do this but it's always on the proviso that he balances it in some way eg ok but I'm going to have to work later then so I need you to sort something for dinner and do the lunches for tomorrow while I finish my tasks (even if it's my turn). We're in a much better rhythm now.

Essentially I guess what I'm saying is if him swapping nights is going to cause issues for him at work, affect career potential or working relationships and he just feels unable to ask, he needs to pull weight in other ways to take stress off of you. Have you considered couples counselling to work through some of the perceived imbalances and to give some practical solutions?

Another helpful post, thank you

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stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 21:18

@puffalo

Yes today was unusual in two ways: less stressful at work and partner home before 8pm.

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stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 21:19

The low blow that was dealt this morning was the first crack in his own mental health.

Eh?

OP posts:
stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 21:20

gave off about your husband the whole day while he was asking for favours and got his shifts covered to make you happy

To protect my mental health from declining.
Hardly the same as "to make me happy"

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Blarting · 31/05/2022 21:20

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 21:18

@puffalo

Yes today was unusual in two ways: less stressful at work and partner home before 8pm.

Excellent that at 8.30 this morning you decided to do your first post then, how very opportune.

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 21:21

He actually even told the colleague who has offered to cover his nights the reason why, and his colleague was apparently very understanding and said it must be hard that we have no support in our situation. Thankfully he works with people who seem lovely and willing to help.

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stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 21:22

@Blarting

What the actual fuck is your issue? You are bordering on bullying me now and I am asking you nicely at this point to leave me alone.

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Blarting · 31/05/2022 21:23

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 21:22

@Blarting

What the actual fuck is your issue? You are bordering on bullying me now and I am asking you nicely at this point to leave me alone.

It's an open forum, you are open to posts from everyone.

Darbs76 · 31/05/2022 21:24

I think you are being unreasonable sorry. It’s not easy to constantly ask for concessions at work / or favours. It’s not easy and if he can get a swap great but I think you’re putting unfair pressure on him

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 21:27

Thanks @Darbs76 - all sorted now though. Shift has been swapped, no drama or pressure. Colleague happy to help. 🙂

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EverydayIsPJday · 31/05/2022 21:28

What if him changing his job for you to cope better makes him miserable? I'm not belittling your mental health at all, just seems you're just telling him how it's got to be and that's the end of it.

Unfortunately it's your DD running the shots now (as for all relationships that then have children enter their lives). She's not sleeping, you don't want to try to fix that. You have no idea what else might crop up btw even if you do. I have two children (pregnant with #3) and every single week is different one way or another through illness, sleep pattern changes, tiredness etc etc you have to find ways to manage as best you can. Him changing his hours doesn't wave a magic wand that stops the lack of sleep/busy days/shit days.

Sparkles8912 · 31/05/2022 21:31

YABU

Him switching shifts isn’t a long term solution. It’s also not fair to expect him to change jobs while not even contemplating switching your own work up.

Also, it’s gone 9pm. Use this time to sleep not be on Mumsnet!!

puffalo · 31/05/2022 21:35

Sparkles8912 · 31/05/2022 21:31

YABU

Him switching shifts isn’t a long term solution. It’s also not fair to expect him to change jobs while not even contemplating switching your own work up.

Also, it’s gone 9pm. Use this time to sleep not be on Mumsnet!!

Exactly.

It seems like OP is downplaying the entire shift swap situation now it’s been sorted, but that absolutely wasn’t the case this morning.

In my work I’m rarely asked to swap shifts/to swap shifts. As a result, when I do/someone asks me, unless there’s a big reason to why I can’t/they can’t, everyone is usually very accommodating. However, I did work with someone a few years ago who asked for swaps nearly every week. I ended up just saying no every time, even if I could have swapped. So did everyone else.

There is a limit to everyone’s kindness and flexiblity.

PaddingtonBearStareAgain · 31/05/2022 21:43

puffalo · 31/05/2022 21:35

Exactly.

It seems like OP is downplaying the entire shift swap situation now it’s been sorted, but that absolutely wasn’t the case this morning.

In my work I’m rarely asked to swap shifts/to swap shifts. As a result, when I do/someone asks me, unless there’s a big reason to why I can’t/they can’t, everyone is usually very accommodating. However, I did work with someone a few years ago who asked for swaps nearly every week. I ended up just saying no every time, even if I could have swapped. So did everyone else.

There is a limit to everyone’s kindness and flexiblity.

All of this.

Crazycrazylady · 31/05/2022 21:45

I just want to remind people that it's all while it's very hard on people with mh issues , it's also very hard on their carers/partners.
I have a family friend in this situation and I honestly don't know how she copes with working all day in a stressful job and coming in from work to do most of the housework , homework and also emotional support her partner who needs lots on reassurance . He's been Ill for a couple of years now and she never complains but looking in from the outside I genuinely don't know how she keeps going. Her partner is off work currently so all the financial pressure is on her as well. I know she gets up at 5am and to 'get a jump on the day'
I think it's worth remembering that being a carer to someone with mh issues is nearly harder than to someone with a physical illness.

EverydayIsPJday · 31/05/2022 21:48

@Crazycrazylady totally agree

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 21:50

@Crazycrazylady

He is not my carer.

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Nidan2Sandan · 31/05/2022 21:51

Being the partner of a shift worker is hard. DH is emergency services and I had 3 children under 3yo and in them days he worked a mix of earlies, lates and nights. The nights were 7 shifts in a row, 12 hours long each.

My youngest didnt sleep more than 2 hours at a time till she was 14 months.

But, the difference was DH was present and helpful when he wasnt at work. A lot of life admin did, and still does, fall to me and I have shocking insomnia so am entirely used to going as much as 48 hours with no sleep, but that was a killer when the kids were young.

Your DH cant just piss around with his responsibilities at work, any less than you can. But that doesnt mean he cant be more mindful of what you do deal with and help you more but moreso actually listen to what you're telling him, listen to what you're asking for!!

I think you probably both need to work on your communication, and start sleep training your baby.

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 21:53

@Crazycrazylady

Also with respect, the situation you describe is nothing like our home life. For a start I work, I do most of the home stuff and childcare as well on account of the fact I'm the one at home most often, and I carry all of the mental load. And DP is not my 'carer'.

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stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 21:55

It seems like OP is downplaying the entire shift swap situation now it’s been sorted, but that absolutely wasn’t the case this morning.

Well yes because this morning it wasn't sorted. Now it is. 🤷‍♀️

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PaddingtonBearStareAgain · 31/05/2022 21:57

But that doesnt mean he cant be more mindful of what you do deal with and help you more

He has come home from work and gone and done bedtime. OP is on mumsnet.

He will be the one up with her when she wakes tonight as he is the one that deals with night times.

To say he isn't present and helpful just isn't the case.

He also it seems only does nights shifts once every 10 weeks or so at the nost

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 21:58

He will be the one up with her when she wakes tonight as he is the one that deals with night times.

Most of the night wakings. Not all.
And I'll be awake too, regardless, even if he's the one physically settling her.

OP posts:
Blarting · 31/05/2022 22:00

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 21:58

He will be the one up with her when she wakes tonight as he is the one that deals with night times.

Most of the night wakings. Not all.
And I'll be awake too, regardless, even if he's the one physically settling her.

So if you're awake anyway, what difference does it make if he's on night shift?

The sleep deprivation is the same?

Acheyknees · 31/05/2022 22:03

OP, it's hard when you're sleep deprived and it's easy to take it out on one another when you are both trying to do your best. It's sounds like you'll both have some time off during the summer so that's something to look forward to.
Don't waste energy and time on pointless 'how would you manage being a single parent?'.
It's sounds like you both work long hours and are tired. Look forward to your time off together. Neither of you are unreasonable.

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