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Partner has really upset me - is it him or me being sensitive??

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stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 08:31

I've NC because there's a lot of personal information in this post.

The gist of the problem is I don't feel my DP is massively supportive with helping to maintain a work family balance and sees me as the default childcare, expecting me to fit in with the demands on his job and never have the status quo upset for him with his job.

We have a 1 year old. We both work. My job is a 9-5 with some flexibility around times worked so long as I work my hours. I work 4 days a week. His job is a nightmare - FT, long shifts, unsociable hours inc evenings and nights and weekends. We have lots of arguments about how his job impacts on me and means I end up with the bulk of the childcare around my own job (we have no family support so I'm very much solo when he's not around to help).

Last night we spoke about this yet again, because he has recently finished a week of night shifts and has to do more night shifts in July. Nights impact particularly on me because DD doesn't sleep well and sleep deprivation causes a significant deterioration in my MH (DP copes a million times better than I do so he tends to most of the night wakings when I'm at work). We spoke about it a while ago and he agreed to speak to work and try and swap these shifts with colleagues who don't have children (there are usually people willing to swap as they get a week off after a week of nights). Last night I asked if he had made progress with trying to swap these shifts. He said not yet but he's asked a few colleagues. I said what's the plan if they all say no - he said I don't know. I said could you speak to your manager to see if there's any flexibility given the situation?

He then snapped at me saying "what would you do if you were a single mum? You'd have to just get on with it". I said yes but I'm not. And there's no need to snap, I'm only asking what the plan is if no one can take your night shifts.

This is part of an ongoing problem where DP hates to "rock the boat" at work - he'd rather let me and the family down than ask for support or flexibility with his manager at work. He puts work and their priorities first, all the time. He often isn't even willing to ask at work what can be done to support his family situation.

I said I don't feel that you are supporting me here; you seem annoyed by me raising this. He said yes, he is annoyed, because he doesn't want to sacrifice his week off after his July night shifts, because it precedes 2 weeks of annual leave and it would mean he got 3 consecutive weeks off. Now he will only get 2 weeks off. I said Ok, but we need to work this out as a family and what we all need, not just what you want (ie 3 weeks off). My MH could decline quite significantly with that week of nights on my own, and I might end up off work sick. But as long as you get your 3 weeks off? Seems a bit selfish.

He then said "don't say I don't support you - I took time off work when you got admitted to hospital". Two weeks after giving birth I got admitted to an MBU in an mental health crisis situation. He referenced the fact he came home from work and asked for a few extra days off on top of his paternity leave, as an example of how he supports me. I was a bit stunned tbh. He thinks this is worthy of special mention? Isn't this just what any loving partner would do? I wouldn't hesitate to ask for time off work if he was admitted to a hospital, especially 2 weeks postnatally. Maybe I'm unreasonable there and should feel grateful, who knows ...

Also, by raising the MBU experience he's rehashed a lot of trauma that I have tried to bury. I drove to work this morning with it all whirling round my mind. He knows mentioning this is triggering for me.

Who is unreasonable? Is this my problem?

I'm willing to accept AIBU if that's the majority opinion. Please, please just find a way to say it as nicely as possible. I'm not in a good place. 🙁

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coffeecupsandfairylights · 31/05/2022 17:30

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 17:28

We can't afford a nanny. I'm not sure what people think I earn but it's not enough to cover a nanny

There are other forms of overnight care - some childminders do overnights, for example, or you could hire a Mothers' help just for the nights DH is working?

Dishwashersaurous · 31/05/2022 17:41

No one is saying a permanent nanny .

What people are saying is that your normal is that you have a child now.

You can't be woken in the night because of the impact on your mental health.

Your partner does night waking.

Your partner sometimes has to do night shifts.

For those nights you need childcare if the child wakes, which happens currently.

In a few months or so child Will not wake in the night.

So you need a temporary solution for the next six to 12 months.

That could be a babysitter, night nanny, mother's help etc, only for the nights when he is working nights.

whowhatwerewhy · 31/05/2022 17:42

People are trying to give you solutions to what hopefully is a short term problem.
No one can give you your old life back pre child and all the changes being a parent brings .
There are options, sleep train your baby , hire a night nanny /mothers help / babysitter for the weeks your DP is on nights . I know someone who does odd nights to help sleep deprived parents ( your not alone )As difficult as it may be do the nights yourself ( you might cope )
Ask DP not to do overtime as it's more beneficial he does the nursery run , house work instead.

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 17:55

JenniferPlantain · 31/05/2022 16:15

Okay, I’ve read through all your posts and some of the PPs replies, also googled MBU. Clearly something has to give here.

From absorbing all you’ve posted, I strongly think you and your partner need to join forces to find him a new job/role that has routine at its core? Might this be a possibility? Or is his field always going to involve this level of shift unpredictability?

It's always going to be the same unless he does a totally different job.

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puffalo · 31/05/2022 17:57

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 16:58

To me it's your job causing this not his .

You're wrong. I have done my job for many years pre baby with no issues whatsoever. It's always been a demanding stressful field. I've studied and worked for 2 decades to get where I am career wise. I can manage the stress of and demands of my job under normal circumstances. I cannot manage it very well under conditions of sleep deprivation and being the sole carer for a baby most of the time with little support. It's the combination of those things causing my stress.

I've now said this twice.

Firstly, there’s no need for rudeness. People are taking time out of their day to help you with a thread you posted and asked for opinions on.

Secondly, you have a child now. This are your normal circumstances now. Of course you found your job easier before a baby- literally every single working mother would say the same, it isn’t a situation that’s only applicable to you.

Thirdly, no one is telling you to bin your career and work in a minimum wage job until you retire. People are suggesting you drop hours or try another less stressful job for a few years until you have your MH in a better place. This gives you time to recover and then you can go back to it feeling refreshed and able to handle the stress it throws at you.

You can’t force your husband to quit his job, or micromanage how he handles his business in work. Frankly, it isn’t any of your business. You can make decisions based on your own role, though. You can also use this 3 week break that’s coming up to attempt to sort out your child’s sleeping habits so going forward it is easier on all of you (although I’d say he’d benefit much for from this than you as it’s him that’s up in the night most of the time, anyway).

It just seems like you’re quite aggressively shooting down very legitimate suggestions/ideas because you’ve decided you want your husband to change his job because you’ve grown to resent him and you want to punish him.

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 17:58

I do agree he should share more of the mental load. It sounds like this is really what’s at the crux of it, that he doesn’t recognise this and that it’s building resentment in you. Could you try writing down a list of everything you do then maybe during his upcoming time off sit down with him and have a proper talk through of the load on you and what he could do to support you when he’s not at work

Been there. Tried that. He nods and makes all the right noises... "ok I see your point" etc.... the following week the mental load is firmly mine again.

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Brefugee · 31/05/2022 17:59

or unless you do a totally different job.

I have a lot of sympathy, OP, but you only want your DH to change and will not countenance anything that impacts your job - even though you have clearly stated on several occasions now that your job is part of the cause of your insomnia.

Which is why waay back in this conversation i suggested that what you two may want to prioritise is couples therapy. From your DH pov i am sure he is doing everything he can to support you. In his shoes? I'd be ready to throw in the towel faced with your intransigence.

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 17:59

@puffalo

🤣🙈🤣🤣

Fuck me that's some reach. I want to punish my husband??!

I'm not being aggressive or rude - point to where I have been??

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stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 18:02

@Brefugee

I've worked for 2 decades and have high level academic qualifications for my career. I've dedicated my entire life to it. I also earn quite well which clearly is a huge benefit to the family. Why should I change it when it's not my job that is causing the problem?

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Dishwashersaurous · 31/05/2022 18:02

So there's two actually separate issues.

  1. Your child doesn't yet sleep through at night and you doing night waking is dangerous for your mental health. So a temporary, probably paid childcare solution, is required for his night shifts.
  1. The longer term bigger issue. You don't sound like you actually like your partner very much and you don't feel like you are a team in raising your child. You feel like you do all the parenting.

On the second point only you can know whether this is solvable, couple therapy etc. Or not.

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 18:03

You can’t force your husband to quit his job,

Amazing 🤣
Yet another thing I haven't said or tried to do.

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AlistairCamel · 31/05/2022 18:04

I think YABU a little bit. If the entire team does night shifts and are employed on that basis then he may think there’s very little chance management will be happy. He has asked others to swap and so far they’ve said no. I also don’t think swapping is a sustainable solution.

Does he like his job? Would he consider changing?

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 18:04

@Dishwashersaurous

I like him. I love him.

But he 100% views me as the default parent. And it fucks me right off. The end, really.

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stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 18:05

@AlistairCamel

He loves his job yeah.

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AlistairCamel · 31/05/2022 18:05

By the way, I do have a lot of sympathy with the situation as I am in quite a similar one myself, all be it my husband isn’t doing night shifts.

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 18:06

@Dishwashersaurous

I didn't realise you could have someone on a temporary basis in your home to just help with night wakings. Do you have to have a spare room to accommodate them, I'm assuming? How does it work?

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coffeecupsandfairylights · 31/05/2022 18:07

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 18:02

@Brefugee

I've worked for 2 decades and have high level academic qualifications for my career. I've dedicated my entire life to it. I also earn quite well which clearly is a huge benefit to the family. Why should I change it when it's not my job that is causing the problem?

But you've said that your job IS causing you issues - that when you wake in the night, you can't get back to sleep because you're stressed and anxious about your job.

That's not normal, healthy or sustainable in the long-term.

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 18:08

You don't sound like you actually like your partner very much and you don't feel like you are a team in raising your child. You feel like you do all the parenting.

First part is incorrect, I like and love him.
Don't feel like a team is correct.
Feel like I do all the parenting is correct.

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stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 18:09

@coffeecupsandfairylights

Stressed and anxious about being able to do my job and meet its demands on so little sleep. That's what ultimately keeps me awake. I literally clock watch and think "great, I now only have 1 hour left before I have to get up for work" etc etc ....

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puffalo · 31/05/2022 18:09

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 17:59

@puffalo

🤣🙈🤣🤣

Fuck me that's some reach. I want to punish my husband??!

I'm not being aggressive or rude - point to where I have been??

You’ve been snappy for most of the thread when replying to posters. But perhaps this is how you communicate with people now so you don’t notice rudeness, anymore.

I don’t think it’s a reach at all. You seem dead set on ruining his reputation in work by insisting he badgers people to swap shifts and then go and badger his boss for much of the same. Just so you determine that he “cares”. That isn’t a solution for the long term, though. It’s handy once or twice a year but not every week.

Does he say similar to you in regards to your work? Does he ask you to beg colleagues for favours or go to your boss for time off, etc? Or does he stay out of it and let you handle your own shit in regards to your job?

whumpthereitis · 31/05/2022 18:09

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 16:13

What do you expect his boss to do?

I have no expectations of his boss at all. I expect him to give a shit about my well-being and at least be prepared to have a discussion with his boss. If nothing came of it, fine. At least be tried and showed he cared. That's it.

He’s trying to balance your needs with maintaining a good reputation, and good relationships, at work. So he talks to his boss, and what? The boss gets pissed off because he’s creating an issue, or the boss is then put in a position where he has try and get someone else to cover the shift, and again it would be someone he has already asked who has said no.

Your husband is likely well aware that his colleagues have been accommodating to him, and he doesn’t want to push his luck. Swapping shifts with him is an act of goodwill on their part, and if he pushes his luck he may find that no one is willing to swap with him at all in future.

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 18:11

@puffalo

Ruining his reputation? You are being ridiculous now. And you know it.

I've been short with people at points because I've also been busy with my job in between.

I'm not responding to you anymore because you seem dead set on being difficult and argumentative and I'm frankly not in the mood

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Dishwashersaurous · 31/05/2022 18:11

If you love your husband then I really think that you both talking to someone independent about how you feel will be helpful.

You say you have talked to him but nothing changes.

So actually professional help is needed

PinkSyCo · 31/05/2022 18:12

YABVU.

frazzledasarock · 31/05/2022 18:12

Practically speaking what can be done to resolve this situation?

can your DP get another job or move to days only?

can you get additional night support? Maybe speaking to your GP and being very clear about the impact on your mental health sleepless nights have. Not sure GP what would be offered though.

could you afford a night nanny?

could you move nearer to your family for support?

do you have any close friends who’d be willing to help out a night or two when your DP is doing the night shift?

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