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Partner has really upset me - is it him or me being sensitive??

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stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 08:31

I've NC because there's a lot of personal information in this post.

The gist of the problem is I don't feel my DP is massively supportive with helping to maintain a work family balance and sees me as the default childcare, expecting me to fit in with the demands on his job and never have the status quo upset for him with his job.

We have a 1 year old. We both work. My job is a 9-5 with some flexibility around times worked so long as I work my hours. I work 4 days a week. His job is a nightmare - FT, long shifts, unsociable hours inc evenings and nights and weekends. We have lots of arguments about how his job impacts on me and means I end up with the bulk of the childcare around my own job (we have no family support so I'm very much solo when he's not around to help).

Last night we spoke about this yet again, because he has recently finished a week of night shifts and has to do more night shifts in July. Nights impact particularly on me because DD doesn't sleep well and sleep deprivation causes a significant deterioration in my MH (DP copes a million times better than I do so he tends to most of the night wakings when I'm at work). We spoke about it a while ago and he agreed to speak to work and try and swap these shifts with colleagues who don't have children (there are usually people willing to swap as they get a week off after a week of nights). Last night I asked if he had made progress with trying to swap these shifts. He said not yet but he's asked a few colleagues. I said what's the plan if they all say no - he said I don't know. I said could you speak to your manager to see if there's any flexibility given the situation?

He then snapped at me saying "what would you do if you were a single mum? You'd have to just get on with it". I said yes but I'm not. And there's no need to snap, I'm only asking what the plan is if no one can take your night shifts.

This is part of an ongoing problem where DP hates to "rock the boat" at work - he'd rather let me and the family down than ask for support or flexibility with his manager at work. He puts work and their priorities first, all the time. He often isn't even willing to ask at work what can be done to support his family situation.

I said I don't feel that you are supporting me here; you seem annoyed by me raising this. He said yes, he is annoyed, because he doesn't want to sacrifice his week off after his July night shifts, because it precedes 2 weeks of annual leave and it would mean he got 3 consecutive weeks off. Now he will only get 2 weeks off. I said Ok, but we need to work this out as a family and what we all need, not just what you want (ie 3 weeks off). My MH could decline quite significantly with that week of nights on my own, and I might end up off work sick. But as long as you get your 3 weeks off? Seems a bit selfish.

He then said "don't say I don't support you - I took time off work when you got admitted to hospital". Two weeks after giving birth I got admitted to an MBU in an mental health crisis situation. He referenced the fact he came home from work and asked for a few extra days off on top of his paternity leave, as an example of how he supports me. I was a bit stunned tbh. He thinks this is worthy of special mention? Isn't this just what any loving partner would do? I wouldn't hesitate to ask for time off work if he was admitted to a hospital, especially 2 weeks postnatally. Maybe I'm unreasonable there and should feel grateful, who knows ...

Also, by raising the MBU experience he's rehashed a lot of trauma that I have tried to bury. I drove to work this morning with it all whirling round my mind. He knows mentioning this is triggering for me.

Who is unreasonable? Is this my problem?

I'm willing to accept AIBU if that's the majority opinion. Please, please just find a way to say it as nicely as possible. I'm not in a good place. 🙁

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Onwards22 · 31/05/2022 18:12

He has to do some nights - there’s nothing you or him can do to change it.

So forget about that side of things.

What else can he help you with?

You say he’s off for 3 weeks.
Will he do most of the childcare then or will it fall mostly to you?

  • as this would be a bigger issue than him not waking during the night when he’s not there.
Brefugee · 31/05/2022 18:14

FFS OP you have outlined in great detail how much your job affects your sleep. And you want to force your DH to give up his job but you won't consider making any changes.

Wallow. I'm out. You just want to moan, which is legit, but people are making suggestions in good faith. You haven't given any indication that you even like your DH. Or that he has the right not to have you telling him to give up his low paying job. Were the sexes reversed you'd get your sorry arse handed to you for that and deserve it.

I hope you find a solution. But i think you will struggle along until your DH throws in the towel because you are not prepared to actually do anything to help yourself but want him to do all the changing.

Also: do some sleep training with your DC, it will help all of you.

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 18:16

He's just informed me he's managed to get someone to swap his nights, so that's good 🙂

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stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 18:17

Lol at the people fabricating that I want to force my DP to give up his job. It's amazing what a bit of fictional hyperbole can add to an otherwise average thread about boring normal life struggles isn't it 🤣

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AlistairCamel · 31/05/2022 18:18

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 18:16

He's just informed me he's managed to get someone to swap his nights, so that's good 🙂

This is good news but you possibly need a solution that’s sustainable in the long term as well. This buys you time though and resolves the immediate issue

puffalo · 31/05/2022 18:19

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 18:11

@puffalo

Ruining his reputation? You are being ridiculous now. And you know it.

I've been short with people at points because I've also been busy with my job in between.

I'm not responding to you anymore because you seem dead set on being difficult and argumentative and I'm frankly not in the mood

Oh come on, everyone has worked with someone who always wants out of certain shifts. It wears thin after a while and people start saying no. The boss gets fed up with it, too. People start talking about it, then it makes him lose credibility and respect in the workplace. It’s no wonder he doesn’t want to keep doing it, and it’s no wonder he snapped.

I’ll take your lack of response as your partner not getting involved in your work, so stop getting involved in his? You’ve said he loves his job, why would you want to take that away from him?

Your job absolutely is the problem here. Unfortunately until you see that, things are not going to get better.

Whitehorsegirl · 31/05/2022 18:20

The main issue is that your partner chooses to have little involvement in your family life and instead is only prioritising work.

The long term solution would be for him to move to a less stressful/demanding job so you can both have a better work/life balance.

What is the point of having kids if you never spend time with them? or to have a partner if you don't function as a team?

This is not a simple problem with shifts or no shifts, it is a much wider lifestyle issue and having different expectations...

Corgi887 · 31/05/2022 18:22

Have you tried sleep training? I found the night wakings dreadful for my mental health and I really felt like I was constantly on the brink of not coping. The way you have spoken in the hrrad really reminds me of myself.

If you don't want to do sleep training have your tried the sun/ moon clock? Cosleeping? Hiring a sleep consultant? If you can get someone else to sort it for you, then do.

whowhatwerewhy · 31/05/2022 18:30

"He's just informed me he's managed to get someone to swap his nights, so that's good 🙂"

He told you he was working on it and he was . You owe him an apology

Feelingoktoday · 31/05/2022 18:36

Realistically the way forward is for your husband to get a different part time job. You are the high earner, so like lots of women have to be needs to support you as you provide the majority of the family income.

would he consider getting a part time job in Tesco or somewhere that would enable you to focus on your career. Just be careful if he becomes your child’s main carer.

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 18:37

Whitehorsegirl · 31/05/2022 18:20

The main issue is that your partner chooses to have little involvement in your family life and instead is only prioritising work.

The long term solution would be for him to move to a less stressful/demanding job so you can both have a better work/life balance.

What is the point of having kids if you never spend time with them? or to have a partner if you don't function as a team?

This is not a simple problem with shifts or no shifts, it is a much wider lifestyle issue and having different expectations...

I agree.

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stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 18:37

whowhatwerewhy · 31/05/2022 18:30

"He's just informed me he's managed to get someone to swap his nights, so that's good 🙂"

He told you he was working on it and he was . You owe him an apology

For what do I owe him an apology exactly?

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stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 18:38

Corgi887 · 31/05/2022 18:22

Have you tried sleep training? I found the night wakings dreadful for my mental health and I really felt like I was constantly on the brink of not coping. The way you have spoken in the hrrad really reminds me of myself.

If you don't want to do sleep training have your tried the sun/ moon clock? Cosleeping? Hiring a sleep consultant? If you can get someone else to sort it for you, then do.

We haven't tried sleep training, no. Maybe we need to look into it

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whowhatwerewhy · 31/05/2022 18:39

"There are risks associated with dropping the ball in my job - risks to my own and others' physical safety. "

"I've been short with people at points because I've also been busy with my job in between. "

Please don't put people at risk by answering questions on MN. You should use your down time relaxing .

coffeecupsandfairylights · 31/05/2022 18:41

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 18:09

@coffeecupsandfairylights

Stressed and anxious about being able to do my job and meet its demands on so little sleep. That's what ultimately keeps me awake. I literally clock watch and think "great, I now only have 1 hour left before I have to get up for work" etc etc ....

But ultimately it's still your job causing you not to be able to get back to sleep?

I'm not remotely saying to quit work or anything, but I think you either need to address your sleep (medication, maybe?) or address the stress - or ideally both.

Anonymous48 · 31/05/2022 18:44

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 18:38

We haven't tried sleep training, no. Maybe we need to look into it

Well, duh!

Your child is over the age if 1 and you're seriously telling me that - despite all the issues it's causing for your mental health, you job, possibly your husband's job, and your marriage - this is the first time you've thought that maybe it's time to try and get your child to sleep through the night?

Hercisback · 31/05/2022 18:44

You haven't tried sleep training?

WTF.

This would solve a lot of your issues.

On the mental load, stop doing stuff for him at all.

jaffacakesareepic · 31/05/2022 18:44

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 18:38

We haven't tried sleep training, no. Maybe we need to look into it

Given you carry so much of the mental load maybe this is something for your husband to look into? Given he does a lot of the night wakings he is in a prime position to lead on this and it might help stop your resentment brewing if he steps up

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 18:47

And I am accused of being rude?

"Well duh" and "wtf" in quick succession when I say I haven't tried sleep training.

I'm not the rude one here let's put it that way.

@whowhatwerewhy

No one is at risk by my replying on here, don't worry - hence why I haven't been able to respond at certain times when I've needed to properly concentrate.

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Skinnermarink · 31/05/2022 18:48

Hercisback · 31/05/2022 18:44

You haven't tried sleep training?

WTF.

This would solve a lot of your issues.

On the mental load, stop doing stuff for him at all.

LOTS of people haven’t tried sleep training, it’s really not worthy of a WTF.

i am not a fan myself but would consider the gentler methods if I was at breaking point.

Anonymous48 · 31/05/2022 18:49

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 18:47

And I am accused of being rude?

"Well duh" and "wtf" in quick succession when I say I haven't tried sleep training.

I'm not the rude one here let's put it that way.

@whowhatwerewhy

No one is at risk by my replying on here, don't worry - hence why I haven't been able to respond at certain times when I've needed to properly concentrate.

You've been incredibly rude throughout this thread, to posters who have been trying to help and offer practical suggestions.

And I do really find it very hard to believe that if your one year old's frequent night wakings are causing this much stress in your household that you haven't tried to address it.

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 18:51

Your child is over the age if 1 and you're seriously telling me that - despite all the issues it's causing for your mental health, you job, possibly your husband's job, and your marriage - this is the first time you've thought that maybe it's time to try and get your child to sleep through the night?

I'm not "seriously telling you" that this is the "first time" I've thought of it. I've certainly thought of it. And then dismissed it as being right for us.

But perhaps we need to re look at it. Some of the gentler methods maybe.

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stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 18:52

@Anonymous48

Please do quote where I have been "incredibly rude".

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Hercisback · 31/05/2022 18:53

OK I'll explain the WTF.

You have been told by MH specialists that sleep deprivation is bad for you. You know that your baby waking also wakes you up, even I'd DP gets up sometimes. The obvious solution is to sleep train. I can't believe no one suggested this when you left the MBU.

The mental load stuff needs work on his part. You are pulling more weight in terms of organisation, drop offs etc. Work out what you can stop doing that will impact on him, and just stop. Anything related to his family is an automatic stop.

Do you communicate how much time the mental load takes? Since I started saying "I need 2 hours to sort dcs clothes" (when moving to next size) DH understands more. We shouldn't have to do this but we can't be annoyed if someone genuinely doesn't realise how much you do.

Skinnermarink · 31/05/2022 18:54

Has the OP been ‘incredibly rude’?

I don’t really see it.

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