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Partner has really upset me - is it him or me being sensitive??

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stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 08:31

I've NC because there's a lot of personal information in this post.

The gist of the problem is I don't feel my DP is massively supportive with helping to maintain a work family balance and sees me as the default childcare, expecting me to fit in with the demands on his job and never have the status quo upset for him with his job.

We have a 1 year old. We both work. My job is a 9-5 with some flexibility around times worked so long as I work my hours. I work 4 days a week. His job is a nightmare - FT, long shifts, unsociable hours inc evenings and nights and weekends. We have lots of arguments about how his job impacts on me and means I end up with the bulk of the childcare around my own job (we have no family support so I'm very much solo when he's not around to help).

Last night we spoke about this yet again, because he has recently finished a week of night shifts and has to do more night shifts in July. Nights impact particularly on me because DD doesn't sleep well and sleep deprivation causes a significant deterioration in my MH (DP copes a million times better than I do so he tends to most of the night wakings when I'm at work). We spoke about it a while ago and he agreed to speak to work and try and swap these shifts with colleagues who don't have children (there are usually people willing to swap as they get a week off after a week of nights). Last night I asked if he had made progress with trying to swap these shifts. He said not yet but he's asked a few colleagues. I said what's the plan if they all say no - he said I don't know. I said could you speak to your manager to see if there's any flexibility given the situation?

He then snapped at me saying "what would you do if you were a single mum? You'd have to just get on with it". I said yes but I'm not. And there's no need to snap, I'm only asking what the plan is if no one can take your night shifts.

This is part of an ongoing problem where DP hates to "rock the boat" at work - he'd rather let me and the family down than ask for support or flexibility with his manager at work. He puts work and their priorities first, all the time. He often isn't even willing to ask at work what can be done to support his family situation.

I said I don't feel that you are supporting me here; you seem annoyed by me raising this. He said yes, he is annoyed, because he doesn't want to sacrifice his week off after his July night shifts, because it precedes 2 weeks of annual leave and it would mean he got 3 consecutive weeks off. Now he will only get 2 weeks off. I said Ok, but we need to work this out as a family and what we all need, not just what you want (ie 3 weeks off). My MH could decline quite significantly with that week of nights on my own, and I might end up off work sick. But as long as you get your 3 weeks off? Seems a bit selfish.

He then said "don't say I don't support you - I took time off work when you got admitted to hospital". Two weeks after giving birth I got admitted to an MBU in an mental health crisis situation. He referenced the fact he came home from work and asked for a few extra days off on top of his paternity leave, as an example of how he supports me. I was a bit stunned tbh. He thinks this is worthy of special mention? Isn't this just what any loving partner would do? I wouldn't hesitate to ask for time off work if he was admitted to a hospital, especially 2 weeks postnatally. Maybe I'm unreasonable there and should feel grateful, who knows ...

Also, by raising the MBU experience he's rehashed a lot of trauma that I have tried to bury. I drove to work this morning with it all whirling round my mind. He knows mentioning this is triggering for me.

Who is unreasonable? Is this my problem?

I'm willing to accept AIBU if that's the majority opinion. Please, please just find a way to say it as nicely as possible. I'm not in a good place. 🙁

OP posts:
Mally100 · 31/05/2022 12:29

But how would moving closer to your family help you with the night waking? Because that is the problem that you are having.

7eleven · 31/05/2022 12:29

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 12:22

@7eleven yes my family would help if we moved closer. I wouldn't rule it out. DP and I would clearly need new jobs first.

I’d really, really seriously consider this.

Could be great all round. Be lovely for your little one to be near family and the help could literally change your life. It would be wonderful for your family too. They’re probably worried about you.

It sounds like things can’t go on the way they are. Good luck, OP. It sounds like you’re doing amazingly well in a tough situation.

7eleven · 31/05/2022 12:32

Mally100 · 31/05/2022 12:29

But how would moving closer to your family help you with the night waking? Because that is the problem that you are having.

Grandparents could take the baby for the odd night and days out? Granny my stay and help during the night shift weeks?

My guess is that the OP would sleep better if her overall stress levels went down.

Mally100 · 31/05/2022 12:37

7eleven · 31/05/2022 12:32

Grandparents could take the baby for the odd night and days out? Granny my stay and help during the night shift weeks?

My guess is that the OP would sleep better if her overall stress levels went down.

Yes but how will the odd random night help when op needs this on a more consistent basis. And that is also making a big assumption that the GPS will offer that type of help. Also nice how you are supporting the ops position but assuming it's granny who will do the babysitting.
Wouldn't the immediate workable solution would be to sort out the baby's sleep routine.

stressedmum22 · 31/05/2022 12:40

My parents have already said if we lived closer they would take DD for the occasional overnight and would support at weekends as much as possible around their own lives.

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7eleven · 31/05/2022 12:53

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7eleven · 31/05/2022 12:55

The position I’m supporting is that of a family who sound like they’re at breaking point. Whether it’s granny, uncle, the tooth fairy or Father Christmas who helps, someone’s got to!

Onwards22 · 31/05/2022 13:02

Is it the night shifts that are the main problem?

How often does he do these?

Tbh I don’t think one week out of a month is that bad, especially if he does all of the other night feeds and I get his single parent comments as how would you cope if he was ever ill or went away with friends for a few days?

I think the main issue here is your job - you can’t do it when you don’t have enough sleep and you can’t sleep because you have anxiety about it.

Is there anyway you can take a less stressful role in the company just until the night feeds have been sorted?

PaddingtonBearStareAgain · 31/05/2022 13:04

Tbh I don’t think one week out of a month is that bad

If the next set isn't until July, it's less than that.

WifeMotherWorkRepeat · 31/05/2022 13:07

YABU I’m afraid!

ImAtTheTownHall · 31/05/2022 13:08

I haven’t read the full thread but just wanted to send a big hug OP. I’m in very similar situation and although we recognise how lucky we are to have jobs etc and other people have it worse, it is very draining to be the default parent and to always be the one holding up the family. I recognised a lot of myself in your post. It is exhausting and relentless, and has had a huge impact on my relationship with my partner. YANBU to be upset about it.

Brefugee · 31/05/2022 13:10

Ah, OP. You seem only to interact with people who agree with you. But having read the thread i agree with the pp who say that actually it looks as though a large part of your problem is your job, not your partner's. If it is stopping you sleeping, what are you doing to address that?
Yes, it took a long time to train for it, and yes you probably didn't anticipate a baby having this effect, but it has so what can you do to mitigate it?

You also speak a lot about your mental health, and you are right to take care of it, but what about your partner's mental health? Is he taking care of it? Do you know how stressful it might be for him to support your mental health constantly, the worry and so on?

He doesn't want to change his job, you don't want to change your job. You see everything from your POV which is normal and natural. But have you really tried getting into his POV and looking at things?

TBH alongside any other MH support you, he or both of you might be getting, i think you might also want to consider couples therapy, because clearly the situation isn't sustainable and isn't good for any of you.

Would a live-in Nanny help?

whowhatwerewhy · 31/05/2022 13:13

@Brefugee

Well said

unfortunatelyno · 31/05/2022 13:25

@stressedmum22 why won't you respond to any of the comments about sleep training your DC?

Yes you have a DP problem in terms of mental load, childcare load, but the immediately solvable issue which would improve things is stopping the night wakings.

Shehasadiamondinthesky · 31/05/2022 13:27

I wasn't sure how I felt about this at first but actually I think he does need to make work a priority as I always have - it's your main income, people don't work for fun they work because they have to and there is a limit to how much his manager will put up with in terms of requests.
I have complex PTSD and if I get ill I have hallucinations and hear voices so I have to take care of myself. I've worked full time in the NHS as well as raising my DS as a single parent. I had zero support as all my relatives emigrated.
We managed, I just had to manage my expectations, I went to bed early with DS, he slept in my bed and as a result slept much better and sometimes the house was a tip.
Also you need to pursue therapy or you will not get better, I have taken medication for years and have lots of therapy on the NHS in order to manage my condition.

EL8888 · 31/05/2022 13:28

I can see the mummy martyrs are out in force! I have worked at places where people happily trade their day shifts for nights, lots of places pay better for nights and throw in some extra days off. He’s not doing ALL the night wakings, just some of them which is reasonable. He does need to up his game, he’s making you carry too much off the load

The perinatal team didn’t ditch you, they are only funded for women for a year after birth. After that it’s expected people will be discharged or pass over to a community mental health team

KarmaStar · 31/05/2022 13:29

It's exhausting working long shifts.
I can see you feel put upon but you have to accept that life is very hard with working and having children and you both have to agree on a way forward that suits you both.
There is little point being angry with your do for not being able to swap shifts and should not pressure him to do so,he could be coming to his managers attention as being difficult about working nights.
This won't be forever,your dc will be growing up and sleeping better.value each other and make time for you two to reconnect and keep your relationship strong.🌈💐

cornflakedreams · 31/05/2022 13:29

You also speak a lot about your mental health, and you are right to take care of it, but what about your partner's mental health? Is he taking care of it? Do you know how stressful it might be for him to support your mental health constantly, the worry and so on?

The op has severe and enduring mental illness that amounts to a disability. It is in no way comparable to his mental well-being. You may as well conflate a sprained ankle with an above-the-knee amputation for all they have in common.

His well-being matters the same as anyone else's, but it's not the point of the thread and the only reason you have brought it up is to try and kick the op. In much the same way as her partner used it to kick her, so who is actually the one who needs some empathy and consideration?

The op has said nothing to suggest that she is oblivious to the fact it is stressful and worrying to have a disabled loved one. That's not unique to mental illness.

Your post says far more about you than it does the op.

Marmite17 · 31/05/2022 13:30

I understand your very real concerns and that sleep deprivation could cause your mental health to deteriorate and your fear of becoming ill again. It sounds like a terrifying experience especially with the responsibility of a new baby.
You are right to take precautions but perhaps need to build your confidence that you are able to cope. This could have been a one off experience but a very traumatic one.
Your partner, however, also needs to stay well. His schedule when working days and doing the night shift with baby does not sound sustainable.
Imo you should get a night nanny. For the sake of you and your partner.
Wouldn't have to be permanent and you could go ahead with sleep training if that's want you want.
At the very least it would be a back up.

cornflakedreams · 31/05/2022 13:35

Shehasadiamondinthesky · 31/05/2022 13:27

I wasn't sure how I felt about this at first but actually I think he does need to make work a priority as I always have - it's your main income, people don't work for fun they work because they have to and there is a limit to how much his manager will put up with in terms of requests.
I have complex PTSD and if I get ill I have hallucinations and hear voices so I have to take care of myself. I've worked full time in the NHS as well as raising my DS as a single parent. I had zero support as all my relatives emigrated.
We managed, I just had to manage my expectations, I went to bed early with DS, he slept in my bed and as a result slept much better and sometimes the house was a tip.
Also you need to pursue therapy or you will not get better, I have taken medication for years and have lots of therapy on the NHS in order to manage my condition.

That's your experience and your experience only. Just because something worked for you does not mean it will work for anybody else.

What was successful and manageable for you in your life with your circumstances is not the universal rule of what will be true for everyone.

It's good that you're managing but you're only an expert on your own very specific circumstances.

Regularmumnetter · 31/05/2022 13:36

From your replies it seems like you don’t really want to listen to any views other than your own. From the OP it seems like your doing your best that you can do with your MH and he’s not really appreciating or trying to understand that but then it also seems like he’s doing his best at the moment with his job and making an effort with the night wakings but you don’t believe he is. So then its a vicious circle of neither of you making a joint effort to appreciate and understand the other person. I know you said that you’d both have to get new jobs to be near your family but I think ideally that seems like the best option, you’d then both have a lot less pressure with the added support of your parents and could focus on your relationship and communication. In regards to the MH comment he made men can be stupid with what they say and you really need to hammer it in that your leaving if he says that again. And maybe be worried about the single mum comment as to if he might be hinting at something.

Skinnermarink · 31/05/2022 13:39

These posters suggesting a live in nanny- do you have any idea of the cost? I’ve been one! I earnt £2,500 a month gross pay and cost my employers a lot more than that as they paid tax and nat insurance on top. It’s not an attainable solution for the vast majority!

Marmite17 · 31/05/2022 13:41

Delete "and" after concerns in first sentence. No edit button!
Hope things work out for you and your partner OP. Look after each other.

Marmite17 · 31/05/2022 13:46

Skinnermarink · 31/05/2022 13:39

These posters suggesting a live in nanny- do you have any idea of the cost? I’ve been one! I earnt £2,500 a month gross pay and cost my employers a lot more than that as they paid tax and nat insurance on top. It’s not an attainable solution for the vast majority!

For a few months a night nanny might enable both to keep their jobs, mental wellbeing and possibly the relationship.

Prinnny · 31/05/2022 13:52

Sorry I think YABU, he’s asked colleagues to swap, they said no, so now you want him to ask his boss? If there’s a service that needs to be covered and he’s allocated that shift then that’s what he has to work. I worked shifts when I was a staff nurse, manager allocates all shifts equally, if i got a shift I didnt want, I can ask collegues to swap but if they say no I can’t then ask the boss to intervene!

The fact that his job isn’t compatible with family life because of your MH issues is a different matter and YANBU to ask him to look for a role that doesn’t involve night shifts to better support you but it’s unreasonable to demand no nights on a job that involves shift work.

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