To think Harry and Meg should be banned from the Queens Jubilee?

[CallMeCatherine]

Why are they bothering?

They hate the UK, the RF, the whole institution and couldn’t wait to escape, accused the RF and British public of being racist, not welcoming Meg, or caring about her mental health. Her SIL even made her cry allegedly! They did a public interview about it being so hard being a Duke and Duchess in the UK that they just had to flee to a California mansion so they could be Royal there instead.

Do we as the public want to see them at a publicly funded celebration of our Queens 70 years on our throne? All they’ve done is embarrass the monarchy selling stories and their connection.

AIBU to think the Queen should have cut them orf?

[Yes, Andrew has massively embarrassed the monarchy as well but he didn’t flounce from the UK and give interviews about how the RF let him down.]

Of course they should attend if the Queen wants her family there.

The media absolutely hounded them I'd have left the UK in their position.

The Oprah interview was a huge fuck up.

It's the Queen's day, she is getting on it might be the last big celebration for her.

Andrew OTOH should be locked in the cellar.

Don't use the term coloured, it's offensive.

Yes, because sticking up for your wife, or speaking out about ill treatment and racist behaviour, is SO much worse than being a sex offender.

Get a grip ffs.

Rightttt. Give me a break

@bloodyplanes were you saying that when Kate went to pay her respects for Sarah Everand? I guess not

It’s really scary when you realise how little critical thinking some people are actually capable of….

This!! I’ve read the entire thread and most of these comments are SO pathetic. I really struggle to believe so many of you care as if this is your own personal family. You don’t know the Queen from Emma down the road yet you’re so invested as if you know these people personally. You don’t. You take in what you read and hear from the media and take that to be accurate news. Are you not able to think for yourself or better yet, get a life and leave these people alone?

@mookie81 sorry if it offended you but its not offensive to me as I am coloured i am not black or white just because some people don't like the term doesn't mean its not a fact

It's the Queen's party so she can choose to invite whoever she likes. I do hope Harry and Meg won't have a film crew in tow though. I don't think Andrew should have a role except in private visit with Queen. Harry, Meg and Andrew can't go on balcony for fly past. Hopefully they will just visit privately with Queen so she can see great grand children then slip back to US avoiding publicity.

Everything they do is purely for there own self interest. Every time things calm down they pull another stunt like the Texas incident. How could any decent person fly on a private jet to lay a wreath with a crew filming them ? She’s supposed to be a private citizen now living her best life. Yet clearly craving celebrity status and attention constantly. Her desperate attempts to make herself the focus of attention during the polo games were embarrassing.

I think the Queen wants desperately for the family to come together and show a United front. They are probably all gritting their teeth and dreading seeing each other, but are doing it for her sake. Once the Jubilee is over, normal relations will be resumed and it’s doubtful that H and M will be in the UK again for a long time.
Of course the Queen is not going to ban her grandson and his family from taking part in the less crucial events.
If the Netflix crew come with them, they’ll be kept at a distance hopefully.

Harry and Meghan are coming with the kids to attend the Jubilee because he wants to be there for HIS grandmother who ( according to Harry and Meghan) have been very supportive.
The Queen presumably wants to see her Grandson and Great Grandchildren and probably couldn’t give a flying fuck about what the likes of the OP think . She is ninety six ffs and is probably fed up with the drama.

The royal reporters are positively salivating at the thought of Harry and Meghan attending the Jubilee. Harry and Meghan are of interest to many whether their detractors want to admit it or not
Threads like this are started to discredit and destroy them in fact have the opposite effect.
The reason they have got this Netflix contract is because of the intense scrutiny and obsession the British press.
The simple truth is that Harry and Meghan have star power and other senior members of the Royal Family do not.

I think Harry and Meghan have done a pretty good job of painting themselves as the bad guys by repeatedly doing 'tell all' interviews about the Royal Family, making claims that have been proven to be untrue (many made in that Oprah interview) and telling everyone who wants to listen - and many who don't - how they don't want to be members of the Royal Family all the while selling their souls to Netflix off the back of being... members of the Royal Family 🙄 (I don't recall any A listers being quite so desperate to interview her or offer her her own tv show before she met Harry... do you?).

They preach about how to be better global citizens and and to help people less fortunate - from the living room of their multi million dollar Montecito mansion and lecture all and sundry about global warming while chartering private jets here, there and everywhere (most recently M chartering a private jet to take her to Ulvide to place flowers on the memorials. Coincidentally ensuring she got her picture taken while doing so).

I don't deny that she has had it hard. Both of them have. But they also really, really haven't helped themselves.

There's something very very messed up in this world when people think the worst members of that family are "Harry and Meghan"
Don't know what else to put without being banned.
Andrew "embarrassed the royal family"
Get out of it, disgusting statement we both know he did much more than that.
Urghh.

There is absolutely no evidence that a Netflix crew were there.

I don't think they should attend due to media circus they bring with them but not my decision that's the queen's. As for Andrew...he shouldn't be in public end of story. When William have an affair...missed that. Andrew I think has done the most damage and even my in-laws who very pro royalty are not bothering re the jubilee.

I think Harry and Meghan have done a pretty good job of painting themselves as the bad guys by repeatedly doing 'tell all' interviews about the Royal Family

But what about all the bad press they got before the interview?

They preach about how to be better global citizens and and to help people less fortunate - from the living room of their multi million dollar Montecito mansion and lecture all and sundry about global warming while chartering private jets here, there and everywhere (most recently M chartering a private jet to take her to Ulvide to place flowers on the memorials. Coincidentally ensuring she got her picture taken while doing so).

William talks about climate change & helping the less fortunate whilst also living in multi million luxury & taking private jets. Why is it any different? I don't understand why Harry & Meghan are held to a different standard. Coincidentally Harry probably learnt from his parents that giving interviews where you slag off your family/the institution is the way to do things.

I don't even know that much about H & M. Perhaps they are spoilt, materialistic, entitled, hypocritical etc but that's probably true for most Royals & celebs. I don't understand the vitriol directed at them. People talk about the embarrassment & their damage to the monarchy, any normal person can see Andrews actions have been far more damaging.

Completely agree. They have treated the queen appallingly. Neither of them comes across as any other than self centred, spiteful and concerned with self promotion. What they have done to their family is unforgivable.

Some posters seem to be really struggling with the concept that

1. it is possible to hold the above view and also believe that Andrew is a repulsive abuser who should not be seen in public ever again and
2. people’s views of Megan are based entirely on her behaviour and the words that have come directly from her own mouth rather than racism.

The queen can invite who she likes.

Whether the will come or not depends though. If they will get more publicity from attending, then they will. If they get more publicity from not attending then they won’t. Wouldn’t be surprised if they are coming, are told Netflix crew can’t be there, throw a tantrum and don’t come and try and do some interview at exactly the same time carrying on about how the family has discriminated against them, they are hard done by, yadda yadda.

Out of interest, what proof is there that Will had an an affair?

I mean some people on this thread seem extremely irate over accusations around Meghan's visit, with film crew or photographer to Texas, when there's actual photos to support that she did this but are happy to throw sneering accusations of Will's infidelity around. Such accusations would surely really hurt his wife and children wouldn't they?

To he clear I don't know whether M did that or not, photos and angles are often manipulated by media to suit the intended narrative aren't they?

Numerous witness accounts confirming there were no Netflix crews, or any film crews associated H&M. Literally people who were also there at the time have CONFIRMED that she arrived alone with a body guard, kept her head down, made no fuss, didn't attract any attention to herself yet people here are so utterly desperate, properly frothing at the mouth to just believe what they want, with their gullible little minds, just to have an excuse to give off and rant and pretend it's not racist. It's so beyond pathetic it's hard to even describe.

Zero difference in Meghan showing her respect to Kate showing hers for Sarah everard.

H&M will come to the jubilee. Our press will write shitty column after column about them, showing zero respect for the queen and yet who will get the blame? H&M. Because the British public lapping it up are pathetic, racist, judgemental morons.

I’ll never understand the hatred for someone people don’t know, will never meet and who has absolutely no effect on their life whatsoever.
It’s absurd.

It's the same as the wailing and outpouring of grief that some people do when people they don't know die, Diana comes to mind.

Absolutely agree with this. Harry and Meghan were thrown under the bus. That’s the price Charles and William paid to keep press coverage of more serious misdeeds to a minimum.

It’s probably all optics and PR from both sides, isn’t it. The RF can’t not invite them as they need to show that they are ‘loved members of the family’, and H&M can’t say no now. They’ve kind of called each other’s bluff IMO.

Whilst I don’t disbelieve H&M, I do think that this sort of behaviour muddies the waters and I can see how it makes their story less believable to some. They’re saying the institution is toxic, made them suicidal, etc etc- but they’re now willing to go back to it. Personally I would be staying well away if I were them. I can’t imagine they’ll be greeted with open arms with the wider family, or that anyone will want to have a solo conversation with either of them for fear of what claims might be made, etc etc. It’ll be quite a stressful visit for them I think.

@EmerLou

Very well said.

On Quora dot com, the anti-H&M folks call the people standing up for them “luvvies,” while they’re referred to as “haters.” They wear that “hater” label like a badge of honour — it’s sickening and they say the most abhorrent, appalling things.
For me, it’s more about online bullying and hate speech, but it’s all the same in the long run.
I can’t imagine being insulted by luvvie and being proud to be a hater, but there you are. They are very twisted people.