To think Harry and Meg should be banned from the Queens Jubilee?

[CallMeCatherine]

Why are they bothering?

They hate the UK, the RF, the whole institution and couldn’t wait to escape, accused the RF and British public of being racist, not welcoming Meg, or caring about her mental health. Her SIL even made her cry allegedly! They did a public interview about it being so hard being a Duke and Duchess in the UK that they just had to flee to a California mansion so they could be Royal there instead.

Do we as the public want to see them at a publicly funded celebration of our Queens 70 years on our throne? All they’ve done is embarrass the monarchy selling stories and their connection.

AIBU to think the Queen should have cut them orf?

[Yes, Andrew has massively embarrassed the monarchy as well but he didn’t flounce from the UK and give interviews about how the RF let him down.]

I completely agree with everything you said.

As I always say, the people who hate Harry and Meghan the most are the ones who obsessively follow their every move.
There are some really strange people on this thread. If these posters are supposed to be the sane ones…. No wonder Harry was worried about the security of his family when coming to Britain.
One would think that these posters would use some of their stored up venom for the likes of Andrew. As the mother of two teenage daughters, I prefer to direct by anger at a man who is ( allegedly) involved in nefarious behaviour.

Someone is filming her in this pic. Plus NBC filmed her for their news from a different angle to the camera man in that pic

Yes, like I said, no cameras except the paps who were outside.

According to the locals manning the blood drive and food donation, there were no cameras inside at all and Meghan sneaked inside through the back kitchen door, just her and her bodyguard. No entourage, no cameras.

Nobody even knew she was there until some of the volunteers recognised her and approached her for a selfie which they sadly decided to sell.

When did Penis Morgan start his hate campaign?

I couldn't care less. The only thing that's quite surprising is the brouhaha surrounding the thing, particularly when the golden jubilee passed by pretty well unnoticed and at that time more than one local council received no applications for street parties at all.

I can only think that on one hand, people have understandably seized the chance for some community events following two very difficult years of lockdown, or on the other, they sense that for this monarch - and perhaps for the monarchy itself - it might be a last hurrah.

After this incumbent's time there will likely be some interesting questions raised about the future of the UK constitution, and in the medium term we might see some changes. People are just not as in thrall to this institution as they were in 1977.

I'll just make the most of the kid being at home and head out to the coast for a lovely boat trip.

Cannot blame Harry and Meghan for leaving this country if this toxic thread is anything to go by, bloody hell the obsessive hatred is weird, so much so that I'm thinking why haven't people got anything better to do than trawl the internet looking for ammo to hate.
Sad really

It was quite clear to me and to many others that the question came from left field, it wasn't vetted, and her surprise at being asked and being stumped by it pretty well proved this

That's fair enough, TalkingCat, but we'll have to agree to disagree on that one

It's been confirmed by numerous locals - people actually affected by the shooting - who were present as volunteers running the blood drive and the food donation points

So it seems, Jemima, but what I asked was where these things were "confirmed" - in other words whether it was a reliable source or some trash media where anyone can claim anything by pretending to be on the spot (god knows it happens over here often enough). Presumably if you've seen the remarks you must know where they were made, so I just wondered if you might want to share?

At least Amber Heard has given the poor woman a few days off.

It's deep-seated bordering on obsessional hatred and the worst of it is always, always directed at women. Men are held to a much lower standard of behaviour and get a much freer pass for actions a woman would be excoriated for. As if there could be any comparison between the actions of Harry and Meghan, and those of the Queen's repulsive second son. And even Harry's own behaviour is usually his wife's 'fault', as though he has no autonomy or decision-making capacity of his own.

The two situations don't even compare. But hey, at least Andrew didn't toddle off abroad and whine about how hard-done-to he was. His nephew will be responsible for the downfall of the monarchy (if only), nothwithstanding there were no murky questions of consent swirling around him.

So it seems, Jemima, but what I asked was where these things were "confirmed" - in other words whether it was a reliable source or some trash media where anyone can claim anything by pretending to be on the spot (god knows it happens over here often enough). Presumably if you've seen the remarks you must know where they were made, so I just wondered if you might want to share?

By the actual volunteers and locals themselves, on their own Twitter and other social media accounts.

Thank you, Jemima - somehow I thought you might say Twitter, which frankly isn't a place I expect to find reliable innformation no matter who the posters claim to be

Seems the folk at MIT aren't too keen on it either www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2018/03/largest-study-ever-fake-news-mit-twitter/555104/

Puzzled, you've made your hatred of Meghan clear in your many thousands of posts about her over the years. But implying that survivors of a mass school shooting are liars is really beyond the pale.

Are you suggesting that people have spent the past five years or more maintaining fake Twitter accounts pretending to be regular school moms living in a small town in Texas, because they psychically predicted that one day their community would be involved in a mass school shooting and that Meghan Markle would visit?

Out of interest, Jemina, do you have any other description to offer than "hatred"? I believe it's quite popular in Twitter-speak, but in the real world it's not an emotion many of us feel for those we don't personally know (though we may well dislike various behaviours they demonstrate)

And no, FWIW I certainly wouldn't suggest that survivors of this terrible incident are lying if that's genuinely who they are, but the point with the cesspit of Twitter is that there's so little way of knowing identities that frauds and liars can (and do) claim anything at all - hence, no doubt, MIT's findings

If you say so, Jemima
I thought I'd made clear that the accounts of those who really are who they say they are will likely be more reliable, but if all you have to offer are further baseless insults I don't really want to engage any more

Please stick to debating Meghan, and leave the poor Uvalde locals alone.

The women in question took a selfie with Meghan. She is very clearly a local, and calling her "a liar and a fraud" just to prove some very minor point over whether Meghan had a camera or not is really not okay.

It's just awful how much the Uvalde survivors have been abused and trolled by Meghan-haters on Twitter. Can't believe people hate Meghan so much, they'd exploit a school shooting just to win a point against her.

It's just awful how much the Uvalde survivors have been abused and trolled by Meghan-haters on Twitter. Can't believe people hate Meghan so much, they'd exploit a school shooting just to win a point against her.

It's almost like it would have been better if she hadn't gone to b Texas

Yes, God forbid people who think it's fine to troll and tweet abuse at survivors of a mass school shooting be held responsible for their own actions.

Nope, all Evil Meghan's fault as always.

They hate the UK, the RF, the whole institution and couldn’t wait to escape, accused the RF and British public of being racist, not welcoming Meg, or caring about her mental health
British public figures and media outlets between them posted pictures of her and Harry leaving the hospital with a chimp after their baby was born and headlines about her being "Straight Outta Compton."
Certain family members wearing racist family brooches in her presence, presumably to make her feel uncomfortable/know her place, otherwise why else would they do it?
Don't blame them in the slightest for getting the hell out of here and trying to find some happiness and peace.

It’s absolutely fine that they’ve left. They could have done it more graciously and with more regard to the family’s feelings, but good on them . However, they didn’t need to give that OW interview which was jaw dropping in its crassness. Causing immense hurt and damage. They came across as spoilt and self absorbed.

They didn’t need to collaborate with a book which was basically ghost written and was even more crass in its content and just as damaging.

They didn’t need to spend lockdown giving lectures by video about subjects they knew little or nothing about.

Harry could have avoided spilling all the beans whilst his grandfather lay dying. He could have made the effort to attend Philips memorial service.

They don’t need to make a documentary about themselves so they can rake in the millions when they claimed to hate the cameras and want a private life.

Hypocrisy, outright lying and self absorption. Yet the RF keep trying to keep them in the fold.

The RF no doubt has behaved insensitively at times and could probably have been more supportive when they were working Royals. However, their private feuding could have been kept private. H and M could have left gracefully without publicising every slight for the world to gasp and comment on. It would have denied the DM fodder and helped them to live a quieter private life. I don’t think they want a quiet private life at all. They want a life of vast privilege and wealth without having to do any real work. They want the celebrity and the freebies, the expensive clothes and the celebrity friends without being held accountable in any way. I don’t see anything at all to admire in that. I don’t care one jot what colour M is. I just don’t like her attitude.

Incidentally , I used to think Harry was great. He was my favourite Royal. He now shows his true colours, and they ain’t pretty.

The queen can have whoever she wants at her celebration and it’s an ideal opportunity to perhaps heal some old wounds. I feel sad that Harry’s children are growing up without their extended family around them and no matter what I think of Harry and Megan’s actions since stepping back from royalty this could be an opportunity to open communications.

They hate the UK, the RF, the whole institution and couldn’t wait to escape, accused the RF and British public of being racist, not welcoming Meg, or caring about her mental health. Her SIL even made her cry allegedly! They did a public interview about it being so hard being a Duke and Duchess in the UK that they just had to flee to a California mansion so they could be Royal there instead.

Because, you sad sack he wants to see his grandmother. She wants him to be there presumably.

Funny that you seem to consider their petulance more noteworthy than what Randy Andy (allegedly) gets up to.

didn’t need to give that OW interview

They were left with no choice. They repeatedly asked the palace to support them, just as the palace issued denials about things William and Kate were accused of and statements were made to correct lies about William and Kate. The palace refused to do the same for Harry and Meghan, the latter who was getting horrific racial abuse, and accused of making Kate cry. The fact they had to resort to OW is on the palace.

They didn’t need to collaborate with a book which was basically ghost written and was even more crass in its content and just as damaging.

Many royals collaborated in ghost written books. It looks like you are desperately nitpicking.

They didn’t need to spend lockdown giving lectures by video about subjects they knew little or nothing about.

Again, more nitpicking and pettiness. If doing videos on important issues is their worst crime during lockdown, wow! They're miles ahead.

Harry could have avoided spilling all the beans whilst his grandfather lay dying.

He didn't know until the last day of shooting where they were adding in bits including their chicken coop that Phillip was even in hospital.

He could have made the effort to attend Philips memorial service.

He DID! The actual original one. The second one was for people who couldn't attend the first real actual one.

They don’t need to make a documentary about themselves so they can rake in the millions when they claimed to hate the cameras and want a private life.

As above, they were forced into do OW by the inaction and silence of the palace.

Hypocrisy, outright lying and self absorption. Yet the RF keep trying to keep them in the fold.

None of those from Harry and Meghan. RF after all the damage they have done to Megan and Harry, ought to keep them in the fold, since it's their fault.

However, their private feuding could have been kept private.

The problem is it couldn't have been kept private, because there was absolutely no other way for Harry and Megan to defend themselves. They were forced into going public.

I just don’t like her attitude.

What is her 'attitude'? She's never said a word against anyone all she's tried to do was defend herself. The attitude that a woman of colour should endure racism, abuse, death threats, death threats to her SON, and RAPE THREATS to herself and let the narrative go against her is a disgusting attitude, so harmful, so racist, so misogynistic, and I will never agree with it.

He now shows his true colours, and they ain’t pretty.

He has. He loves his wife very very much so much that he will leave his family and country to defend her. Any woman should have a man that loyal and of that high quality a character.

pretty sure they want a photo of the kids with the queen that will accidently leak into the press....

I see the OP is a nonce apologist.

Pretty sure you have a vivid imagination!
Pretty sure there will be plenty of official photos of (almost) everybody sanctioned by BP.
Pretty sure most adults have better things to do that get all catbum-faced about what two particular members of the RF might be up to.
Absolutely sure that the RF is harbouring someone in their midst who is far more dangerous and unpleasant than H&M could even dream of being. But no, his behaviour is a mere trifle compared to the evil of the Sussexes (sarcasm, for the avoidance of doubt).