Do think BJ is desperate if bringing back imperial is his next plan...

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Johnson to reportedly bring back imperial measures to mark platinum jubilee

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He can do what he wants. But when I place my vote at the next general election I will be voting whatever way I can to get his sorry ass out of government.

I can give a shit about both. I'm talented that way.

Of course they are changing. There is currently a universal standard, which benefits consumers, this is a policy to scrap that. Not having a universal standrard hurts consumers.

Some people cannot easily do basic maths, and some people will simply not notice that one bag of flour is priced in one system, whereas another brand is priced in another. They do not deserve to be exploited for that.

While I expect that the driving force behind this is purely identity politics, the one meaningful effect is making life harder for consumers, during a cost of living crisis. Whichever system you’re using, it’s one part pathetic and one part reprehensible.

Why have 100 pennies when you can have 240? You get more pennies!

Genius, pmsl, thank you @orwellwasright . 😅

I also remember how changing monetary systems contributed to inflation, as figures were also rounded up and not down. Why go through that again? It would cost an absolute fortune.

Apart from hysteria on here, who has said we're changing currency? 🙄

Had this conversation with my three 20 something DD's this evening.
So I asked them their weight, birth weight, height, what size bra, how far is their commute, national speed limit. Recipe for Victoria sandwich cake? What screen size is their tv? - 40" maybe? Do they have a single bed or or a double - 3' or 4'6"? A pint of lager anyone? Milk?
Every single answer was imperial. We never really stopped imperial measurements did we?
Decimalisation however, is here to stay. I very much doubt Boris will be looking at turning back the clock on that.

How is any of this relevant though?

Allowing imperial measures to be shown alongside metric isn't bringing back imperial measurements and changing our currency.

Sounds like it's just a bit of the usual Boris Johnson nonsense. I doubt very much that most shops will even bother with it as it will involve a change of price/quantity signs for absolutely no point.

Hardly something worth getting het up about.

We're not going to wake up on Friday morning to find we're back to using pounds and ounces and certainly won't be reverting to using £sd.

Christ, this is even more pathetic than I thought even he was capable of, and my expectations are ridiculously low!!

Good old Britain - where politicians smile for the camera at the grand ribbon-cutting opening of a foodbank and 'the people'* are happy to have blue passports and old pint measures back. How very Farage.

Truly embarrassing.

*the throwback wanker one, obvs.

Just the thought of this has made me irrationally irritated

Allowing imperial measures to be shown alongside metric isn't bringing back imperial measurements and changing our currency.
You are misunderstanding.

Imperial measures can already be shown next to metric, and often are.

Boris is planning to change that, so that shops are no longer required to include metric measures and, instead, use whichever they fancy.

It should be fairly evident that this change wouldn’t be ideal for consumers who are watching their pennies.

Metric makes far more sense. BJ is trying to isolate us from other countries by bringing us back into the DARK ages.

Metric took over ages ago why is BJ taking us back. Really backwards thinking here.

We want to be aligned to the world. This is just part of this whole breakdown of globalisation

the one meaningful effect is making life harder for consumers, during a cost of living crisis.

We already live in a dual weights and measures system. People are accustomed to it. As long as the US, that oh so lonely country that no one wants to trade with and who everybody laughs at, keeps using imperial measures, we will too. Timned and packaged goods aren't going to change to solely imperial. Just like in the US, they'll display both. It's just things like fruit and veg and who buys in kilos anyway? We buy in the quantity/volume we want rather than in the weight. It's not going to impact on anyone.

‘APPLE’s’ , surely.

I'm 65 learnt imperial, struggled for years with recipes weights but I adjusted so no it's been too long. I still prefer Fahrenheit though.

It's a daft idea

Threepenny bits and sixpences were very sweet though. I hope they return.

Not that I use cash now.

BJ is trying to isolate us from other countries by bringing us back into the DARK ages.

Has anyone told the US that they're living in the dark ages and that they're isolated from other countries? Because no one wants to trade with America.

It’s like banging my head against a wall with you.

CURRENTLY:

• food products are required to have pricing information using the metric system

• they can already, and often do, also include pricing using the imperial system.

BORIS PLAN:

• remove the requirement to have pricing information using the metric system;

• allow retailers to display whichever of the two they fancy for any given product. (They could theoretically choose to use both, but will not be obligated to and almost certainly won’t).

You also seem to be thinking about loose products only. Price per weight information is included on a lot of packaged goods too (meat and cheese being two obvious ones).

Christ, being British is humiliating. Other countries are led by people who actually behave like grown ups and try to run the country in the best interests of the citizens. Once again, our government is making us look like navel gazing out of touch idiots.

This is about the two systems - metric and imperial - not having exact equivalents. For example, a pound is 453.592g but is generally rounded down to 450g. You can just see retailers charging at the price-per-pound for the rounded down metric ‘equivalent’. The same rounding issue happened when we changed to decimal currency (I’m old enough to remember!) and people were ripped off then.

The current system does not need changing. We have standard baseline decimal unit measurements that are used by almost everyone other than the US which makes worldwide trading easier whilst also retaining the culturally and historically significant imperial measurements which we keep mainly as it aids trade with the US. It’s the retention of a single standard baseline measure - in base 10 metric - that’s important.

As a child of the sixties, I’ve always used a hybrid system of either/or ft/ins vs m/cms, lbs/ozs vs kg/g. Always pounds and ounces for babies though and I’ve never quite got my head around Km per hour, it’s always miles per hour in the car.

Just more distraction, blather and bluster from Johnson in the hope that we’ll all ‘move on’ from all the lies, the complete contempt shown to the country by Partygate and the failure to deal with the huge suffering caused by the current economic situation. Not.A.Hope.Boris. We see you.

Mad obsession this country has with doing things only the elderly think is a great idea.

Somebody should tell the custard coloured halfwit that he is proposing to bring back the avoirdupois system of measurements, and seeing as it is French then he shouldn't touch it with a barge pole (a barge pole is 9 cubits long).

The metric system in the UK was introduced in 1897 so he wants to take us back to before then. How many people from 1897 are still here today? (answer = only Jacob Rees-Mogg - Minister for the 19th century)

A pound is 0.45359237kg, a yard is 0.9144m and an inch is 25.4mm. These are not just conversions but the fundamental definitions of the units in British Standards.

Which version of "ton" are we going to use 2000, 2204.6 or 2240 lbs ?

The only non-SI unit that makes actual sense is the nautical mile and the derived knot. I have always believed that SI should incorporate these.

The custard coloured halfwit believes this proposal will be popular with older voters and Brexit supporters. I'm sure it may have been popular with the 120,000 over 75s who died over the last two years during his mismanagement of the pandemic (while he partied).

PS. thanks to @orwellwasright for the excellent "custard coloured halfwit"

Thats cos they vote tory

Plenty of them don't. The ones in my life can't wait to get them out, and can't stand Johnson. Don't generalise.

Please don’t fall into Boris’s trap of divide and rule - many of us oldies can see straight through this idiocy and see no reason to return to some made up memory of the non-existent golden ‘glory days’ of the 1950s.