Every household?????

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So, the chancellor is going to give every household £400 for heating. Surely there should be a cut off of household income? The Beckhams, Elton John, james Dyson, Harry styles…….they all get the money too? . I say this as someone in the fortunate position of not needing the £400- I’d much rather it went to someone who does need it.Just seems a huge waste of public money to give it to everyone

I agree that in an ideal situation it would be means tested, however this would cost more to administrate than simply giving it to us all. I dont need the money I will put my £400 into the local food bank. Hopefully others will follow suit.

How so? It’s coming off bills, how’s anyone going to know which bill is for a second home?

Also, energy prices are approaching their second peak and I think (personally) will come down afterwards as demand destruction (energy becoming simply too expensive to use) kicks in and Ukraine situation eventually gets resolved (prob around same time as Boris leaves number 10 and Trump gets back into Whitehouse) and China goes into recession dragging world with it. But I wouldn’t bet my house on this prediction! However, remember that a mere year ago oil prices where negative! Oil producers were having to pay refineries to take it off their hands). Things can change v quickly in this ole world.

How does your situation demonstrate why disabled people don’t’ t need a higher amount ? Sorry, you’ve lost me.

@Rosscameasdoody i have a disabled child who we get dla for but as he is in school we both work around school hours and I earn £60k dh earns £25k so our household income is £85k so we are an example of why all disabled people don’t need extra £150as dla is not means tested. If disabled people/ families with a disabled child have a lower income and do need the money then they will probably also be on another means tested benefit like universal credit. Before people start saying we shouldn’t claim Dla is not just a financial benefit it also entitles you to other support that is not financial, lots of places you have to show dla as proof, or for example you can get a blue badge if you have high rate mobility dla.

If only your situation was the same as everyone elses.

It, according to Scope, costs on average £583 per month extra for a disabled person. Whilst that £150 will help, it won't go far.

@TigerRag i do appreciate I am in a lot more of a fortunate position financially than others, I know lots of parents who have had to give up work due to difficulties with schooling etc. We have just fallen lucky in that the school he is in we have found jobs that we can work round him so we can do drop offs and pickup as there is no childcare availability. I do feel like I’m running round like a headless chicken all the time and it is really stressful and I could do with cutting down hours but I am really worried about Ds’s future and especially when he leaves school as we will no longer both then be able to work as he’ll need supervision so im trying to save as much as I can and pay into my pension whilst I have the opportunity to be earning this amount. We get middle rate care and lower rate mobility for Ds so it’s around £380 every 4 weeks and then I also get £250 a month travel allowance from the la for taking him to school. But then things like child care, if you can find, cost alot more than for non disabled kids. Last year I paid an extra £50 a day for a 1-1 at a holiday club on top of the usual fee that other kids pay so that’s the kind of thing the dla goes towards

Pensioner couple here, in a band B house. Neither of us has enough in pensions to pay income tax, so we’re far from well off. However, we’re just too well off to receive Pension Credit. DH has a limiting condition that means he feels the cold, and rarely goes out, so our heating bills are quite high. He never claimed DLA, and once you’re over state pension age, forget it.

We’re grateful for the extra £300.

He could definitely look at claiming Attendance Allowance if he has health conditions which mean he needs help with personal care etc. in my experience it's a lot easier to get than DLA/ PIP etc. Speak to AGE uk, they can send you a factsheet and help with form filling if needed.

@rainingsnoring just seen you replied to my post on child benefit- that's me, just sneaked over £60k and I'm tempted to cut my hrs to keep the benefit as with that loss plus tax I'm no better off being promoted!

It also really pisses me if it's done on income if one parent not the household - my DH earns very little yet we lose it, couple who both earn £49k each get to keep the lot

Put more in a pension scheme as you can deduct pension contributions in calculating your earnings for high interest child benefit purposes

These posts do illustrate the folly of £400 for everyone.

Whilst many are struggling with heating or eating, plenty of others are talking about higher income effecting CB and paying extra into their pension schemes..... yet will still be getting the £400.

Meanwhile, Cornwall council is selling off for development, all its outdoor leisure centres.... got no money.... some of these places have taught children how to swim, climb, canoe etc for generations but plenty of cash to buy off Con voters.

Thanks, but his personal care, mobility etc is pretty much ok. He is in no pain, just has a dodgy ticker and needs to take things steady. Hence being at home a lot, and needing warmth, like many older people. I’m involved locally with Age UK, and familiar with the help thats available. He wouldn’t qualify.

After being unaware when he was seriously ill in his 50s about benefits like DLA, I’ve educated myself. I learnt (too late) he should have had care and mobility elements for at least a couple of years when he had a serious heart attack, when angina meant he could only walk a few yards, then when he was slowly recovering from open heart surgery. The effect of that illness meant his income went down considerably afterwards, with the knock on effect on any extra pension. DLA would have helped immensely, but as I worked we thought we just had to soldier on.

I agree. Claim attendance allowance - there is no mobility but the higher rate pays nearly £370 a month. Well worth claiming.

Even if it’s not spent on energy it will boost the economy.

But it’s not linked to benefits, so anyone that is just over the limit for UC or other means tested benefit would lose out if it wasn’t for the £400 universal payment. UC isn’t earned, it’s a DWP benefit to top up earnings and replace non legacy benefits. So not really at their fingertips for everyone ……….

Why is it folly ? It may pay out to some who don’t need it, but surely that’s worth it if those who earn a pound or two more than the pathetically low tapers and thresholds for means tested benefits will benefit and at least get something. Would people please stop acting like it’s their own money and maybe think of those who fall between the cracks ?

I hope you’re ashamed of that comment. We’re ruled by a government of people who have more money than they know what to do with, and you begrudge £400 to someone who’s probably paying an inflated rent to a fat Tory voter. FFS !!!

And if you’re so strapped for cash that you don’t know where you would find £400 a year ?

N he won’t. They take into account the work allowance.

Why ? Are you saying you’re more of a priority than someone working three jobs and still not making ends meet ? Because I would have though ‘getting a little something back’ means more to them than you - like the difference between being warm and being fed.

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. IF YOU DON’T NEED THE MONEY, DONATE IT TO YOUR LOCAL FOOD BANK. THAT WAY, SOMEONE WHO DOES NEED IT WILL BENEFIT. IT’S THE SIMPLEST METHOD OF REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH. MUMSNET IS A BLOODY JOKE - SOME PEOPLE JUST POSTING BY WAY OF A BRAG THAT THEY EARN TOO MUCH TO NOTICE £400. WELL GIVE IT AWAY THEN AND STOP MOANING !!!!!!

If you have a fantastic pension you won’t be entitled to UC and the DWP don’t contribute anything towards mortgage payments.

I agree, but CB is ongoing. It’s not the same for short term or one off payments.

There is a chap with 7 houses.says he's claiming 400 a piece ! Just wtaf? Bizarre