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Do you know that a man is not dead while his name is still spoken?

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Didactylos · 24/05/2022 23:42

No one is actually dead until the ripples they cause in the world die away

YANBU - Truth! Freedom! Justice! and a hardboiled egg!
YABU - what are you talking about?

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MrSlant · 25/05/2022 08:18

GNU STP

NorthernLights5 · 25/05/2022 08:19

I hate this sentiment. Evil people will always be remembered/spoken about for far longer than good people.

When you're dead you don't live on just because people talk about you. You have no idea even of they do...because you're dead. Being remembered is a world away from being alive.

I also feel like this quote makes some people feel better if they feel they didn't treat their loved ones the way they think they should have when they were alive.

mynameisbrian · 25/05/2022 08:20

Interesting thread...i used to be happy in the knowledge we die and thats that. Its nice to think there may be an after life or heaven but thats just something to prevent us being terrified of death.

Although I did have that view challenged when my youngest became verbal. He told me consistently until he was around 4 or 5 that I was his new mum. Told a story of having a mum , dad and two brothers and living in a house in the woods and the soldiers came and shot them. He then came to me. Kept telling me i was his new mum. Doesnt know what I am talking about now when I mentioned it and he is 7

HolyHiVisOfStEvenEdge · 25/05/2022 08:23

ChagSameachDoreen · 25/05/2022 08:10

All this insider-joke Pratchett bollocks us just unfathomably lame.

Show us on the rat onna stick where Sir Pterry hurt you.

SpookyActionAtADistance · 25/05/2022 08:24

Oh, Vime's Boots, Vime's Boots!

A man once said a vaguely sensible thing about the way the world works. Shall we quote it to perpetuity?

I met him once at a party. Nice chap. No more or less insightful than you or me.

Can we not have some original thoughts? I think that's the best way to honour what you would consider an original thinker.

Don't copy them. If you really consider Pratchet thusly.

Stop quoting. Start making.

Lalliella · 25/05/2022 08:27

Help! What is GNU?

comeondover · 25/05/2022 08:27

I've not read any Pratchett. Where should I start?

Also, could someone tell those of us not in the know what GNU stands for, please?

N0RKS · 25/05/2022 08:27

Wear the lilac!

(except my lilac flowered early and has all gone)

Girlking · 25/05/2022 08:29

What does GNU stand for?

BenCoopersSupportWren · 25/05/2022 08:29

ChagSameachDoreen · 25/05/2022 08:10

All this insider-joke Pratchett bollocks us just unfathomably lame.

Ooooh, someone’s got a rat on a stick up their arse!

BenCoopersSupportWren · 25/05/2022 08:30

*onna

Thanks for ruining the joke, autocorrect 🙄

butterpuffed · 25/05/2022 08:31

iloveeverykindofcat · 25/05/2022 06:46

Nah. I've died before. Trust me, when you die you're dead.

(Obviously I got CPRd and am back now).

This happened to my father, brought back round after an operation. He said there was 'nothing' after you die.

My question was , if there's nothing how do you know that.

FacebookPhotos · 25/05/2022 08:32

Where should I start?

I started at the beginning of the discworld series (the colour of magic). You don't have to read them in order though. I haven't read them all yet and read them in whatever order they appear in a local charity shop.

NashvilleQueen · 25/05/2022 08:35

Is this not basically just the plot of Coco?

SpookyActionAtADistance · 25/05/2022 08:35

@BenCoopersSupportWren

Thing is, Pratchet's not that funny.

NashvilleQueen · 25/05/2022 08:36

Ah is it a Terry Pratchett thing? I've never read any of his books.

BenCoopersSupportWren · 25/05/2022 08:37

Jeez, is there nothing the fun sponges won’t come and be po-faced at? 🙄

This is quite obviously a thread where Pratchett fans are celebrating a date significant to us, some with poignancy, some with humour. Some people might not have picked up on that and are engaging with the topic at face value, which makes for a thoughtful discussion. But if you’re neither doing that nor are you a fan, there are roughly 8,740,000 other threads over there —> where you can sneer and act superior to your heart’s content.

SoupDragon · 25/05/2022 08:38

SpookyActionAtADistance · 25/05/2022 08:35

@BenCoopersSupportWren

Thing is, Pratchet's not that funny.

I'm sure you find people funny that others think are shit 🤷🏻‍♀️ It's called having a different sense of humour.

Flamingle18 · 25/05/2022 08:39

My DDad always said similar that someone is not truely gone until memories of them are no longer talked about. He passed away in February and it makes sense now 💖

iloveeverykindofcat · 25/05/2022 08:43

@butterpuffed hard to explain, best I can do is:
This is what it's like:
It's not like anything.
Think of something you didn't experience (maybe something that happened before you were born) and its like your experience of that.
Except not even because....you have knowledge that that thing did happen.
Maybe its better to say...it's like time skipped, and there's nothing in the middle.

Worldgonecrazy · 25/05/2022 08:46

I will always be grateful I got to share my love of Pratchett with my mum before she died. His books were a source of amusement and comfort. The only one I don’t have is Reaper Man, which is a shame, as I think his description of death at the end of that one is so moving.

PortiaFimbriata · 25/05/2022 08:46

SpookyActionAtADistance · 25/05/2022 08:24

Oh, Vime's Boots, Vime's Boots!

A man once said a vaguely sensible thing about the way the world works. Shall we quote it to perpetuity?

I met him once at a party. Nice chap. No more or less insightful than you or me.

Can we not have some original thoughts? I think that's the best way to honour what you would consider an original thinker.

Don't copy them. If you really consider Pratchet thusly.

Stop quoting. Start making.

Bollocks. People quote Vimes' Boots because it expresses a concept which is perennially relevant in an elegant and memorable way. I'm not going to bother reformulating that concept because my chances of doing a better job are negligible. I'll save my mental energies for other work.

Likewise there are several problems or fallacies which are much better addressed with a perfect XKCD cartoon than by trying to reformulate the issue in an almost certainly inferior way.

If there isn't already a great expression/analogy of what I'm trying to say then that's when I'll put the work in.

Quoting and making are not mutually incompatible.

ginslinger · 25/05/2022 08:46

This thread is enormous fun - even the fun sponges can't take it away. Thank you

SushiShopSearch · 25/05/2022 08:50

What does "GNU" mean??

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 25/05/2022 08:52

How do they rise up, rise up, rise up
How do they rise up, rise up high.

GNU Sir Terry. We keep that name moving in the overhead... Currently re-reading Going Postal, so that's worked out well, timing wise.

(And people can talk about my boots as much as they damn well please!)

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