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AIBU to think that the Met Police have "Saved" Boris Johnson?

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SueGray54321 · 23/05/2022 14:52

Just at the very moment when the Sue Gray report on Partygate was about to be released, the police suddenly decided to investigate partying at Downing Street themselves. This was after months of saying they don't investigate historic breaches of lockdown rules. Can't help thinking that they were persuaded to do this to stop the Sue Gray report being released.

The Met then proceed to spend months investigating Partygate offences, thus taking the heat out of the original fury about revelations about lockdown breaches. No doubt this was entirely their intention.

The sum total of the police investigation was one £50 fine for the Prime Minister, for one of the more minor breaches of lockdown rules. Begs the question why he was not fined for any of the other events he attended?

It just smacks of a stitch up, doesn't it?

OP posts:
jgw1 · 23/05/2022 22:21

Clavinova · 23/05/2022 22:19

I generally call them sleepy

Is that the time? I must sign off.

Well yes I was worried that you were working passed the end of your shift tonight, fair play you worked hard on this thread, and now everyone is utterly convinced by the cake, was it fruit or nut?

Kendodd · 23/05/2022 22:23

TooBigForMyBoots · 23/05/2022 22:16

What's worse: calling the Tory cabinet "SCUM"? A sentiment that many in this country agree with and not illegal.
Or
Suggesting sending a bomb to an opposition MP?🤔

I suppose it depends on what political party they belong eh, @Clavinova?

Who suggested sending a bomb?

Blossomtoes · 23/05/2022 22:52

I would forgive Angela Rayner if she made her comment over 20 years ago

What difference does 20 years make? That’s some illogical thought process.

ilovesooty · 23/05/2022 22:55

SleeplessInEngland · 23/05/2022 22:16

It’s so transparent I can’t help but wonder what the aim is. Certainly not to convince anyone, so… to alleviate boredom? I guess that’s why many of us are here.

It's a strange hobby - trawling the Internet for anti Labour politician's stories to copy and paste.

DrippyLongstocking · 23/05/2022 22:56

ilovesooty · 23/05/2022 22:55

It's a strange hobby - trawling the Internet for anti Labour politician's stories to copy and paste.

I don’t believe for a moment it’s a hobby.

Blossomtoes · 23/05/2022 22:58

It’s pretty sad if it’s the best job you can get.

eatingapie · 23/05/2022 23:53

The thing that’s annoying is that all the dodgy Labour MPs OBVIOUSLY also need reprimanding/expelling or whatever. But HOW is Boris Johnson going to preside over a sensible, functioning parliament with integrity?!? He can’t do it, he’s fucked it.

THIS is EXACTLY why he’s so shit. There is no moral standard to hold anyone to. If you’re worried about the decency of Labour MPs as much as you are Conservative MPs then you should be JUST AS KEEN to get rid of Boris so that you can elect a PM who can actually take misbehaving opposition MPs to task without looking like a fucking idiot.

TooBigForMyBoots · 24/05/2022 00:30

@Kendodd, the MP was James Gray. Most people missed the story as they were too busy with their misogynist, classist frothing over AR calling the cabinet "scum".

TooBigForMyBoots · 24/05/2022 00:47

TBF though, I'd have missed it too if I hadn't gone looking for it. I figured the AR non story was hiding something unsavoury that Conservative central didn't want publicising.😆

tobee · 24/05/2022 06:42

See also Durham police deciding that they would investigate Starmer after all. The day after the local election results. So that was the story all over msm. Rather than the spectacularly terrible night that the Tories had had. Which was barely mentioned, when hours before people had said that a far fewer number of seats lost by the Tories would be a disaster.

But it's like no one remembers the election even happened.

jgw1 · 24/05/2022 07:08

Blossomtoes · 23/05/2022 22:58

It’s pretty sad if it’s the best job you can get.

Is this the kind of job that means that there are now more vacancies than people seeking work?

jgw1 · 24/05/2022 07:09

tobee · 24/05/2022 06:42

See also Durham police deciding that they would investigate Starmer after all. The day after the local election results. So that was the story all over msm. Rather than the spectacularly terrible night that the Tories had had. Which was barely mentioned, when hours before people had said that a far fewer number of seats lost by the Tories would be a disaster.

But it's like no one remembers the election even happened.

I am sure all those hard working Conservative councillors who were sacrificed to save Big Dog will remember and be enthusiastically lining up to campaign for him next time he barks.

howtomoveforwards · 24/05/2022 07:19

There are huge events taking place and those events are going to change the world. Possibly there could be war and famine and shortages in many things vital to the smooth running of society

you realise that in the event of war coming closer to home, or in a period of food shortages that affect us as a country, Boris et al have shown us that they are their own priority and the rest of us don’t matter? That we can be controlled by Laws and fines and they can do what they want? That we haven’t held them to account for their behaviour so they really do not need to act in our best interests?

inflation is already at 9%. Have minimum wage, living wage, benefits of all kinds increased by anywhere near that amount? Why not?

AlternativePerspective · 24/05/2022 07:21

Thing is, these discussions achieve nothing. Which is why I posted at the beginning that nobody really cares about the sue grey report.

If the report had been released prior to the met investigation then it would potentially have made a difference, but now that the met investigation has concluded the Sue grey report being released isn’t going to achieve anything.

The only way Boris is going to be got rid of is if the MP’s launch a vote of no confidence. And as yet there is absolutely no suggestion that is going to happen.

The only way we can get rid of this government is by voting them out in the next election, but that isn’t going to happen while we have such a weak opposition.

Whatever we think of the tories, labour need to come up with something to make them worth voting for, because right now people aren’t coming up with reasons to vote labour, they can only come up with reasons not to vote Tory,and that just isn’t enough.

SleeplessInEngland · 24/05/2022 07:25

The Express’ front page headline today is literally NOTHING TO SEE HERE.

Beyond parody.

jgw1 · 24/05/2022 07:28

AlternativePerspective · 24/05/2022 07:21

Thing is, these discussions achieve nothing. Which is why I posted at the beginning that nobody really cares about the sue grey report.

If the report had been released prior to the met investigation then it would potentially have made a difference, but now that the met investigation has concluded the Sue grey report being released isn’t going to achieve anything.

The only way Boris is going to be got rid of is if the MP’s launch a vote of no confidence. And as yet there is absolutely no suggestion that is going to happen.

The only way we can get rid of this government is by voting them out in the next election, but that isn’t going to happen while we have such a weak opposition.

Whatever we think of the tories, labour need to come up with something to make them worth voting for, because right now people aren’t coming up with reasons to vote labour, they can only come up with reasons not to vote Tory,and that just isn’t enough.

The opinion polls and analysis of them suggests you are mistaken. eg this one that has a 73% probability of Labour being the largest party at the next General Election.

As for reasons to vote Labour, which party has been consistently proposing steps to try and alleviate the cost of greed crisis and which party has raised taxes in such a way that it hits the worst off most?

jgw1 · 24/05/2022 07:28

jgw1 · 24/05/2022 07:28

The opinion polls and analysis of them suggests you are mistaken. eg this one that has a 73% probability of Labour being the largest party at the next General Election.

As for reasons to vote Labour, which party has been consistently proposing steps to try and alleviate the cost of greed crisis and which party has raised taxes in such a way that it hits the worst off most?

Sorry I failed to include the linky

www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/prediction_main.html

SleeplessInEngland · 24/05/2022 07:29

“The only way Boris is going to be got rid of is if the MP’s launch a vote of no confidence. And as yet there is absolutely no suggestion that is going to happen.”

This cynicism is understandable but not really reflected in the numbers. As current polling stands (and has stood for months) Labour and the Lib Dems could comfortably form a coalition. And despite being coy they absolutely will given the opportunity.

Normally I’d be wary of saying that this far out but it’s clear the tories have no answer to the cost of living crisis, and another half-arsed culture wars won’t cut it.

jgw1 · 24/05/2022 07:31

SleeplessInEngland · 24/05/2022 07:29

“The only way Boris is going to be got rid of is if the MP’s launch a vote of no confidence. And as yet there is absolutely no suggestion that is going to happen.”

This cynicism is understandable but not really reflected in the numbers. As current polling stands (and has stood for months) Labour and the Lib Dems could comfortably form a coalition. And despite being coy they absolutely will given the opportunity.

Normally I’d be wary of saying that this far out but it’s clear the tories have no answer to the cost of living crisis, and another half-arsed culture wars won’t cut it.

The Tories are doing very well out of the cost of greed crisis. They are getting richer, just look at the Chancellor so why would they do anything about it?

SleeplessInEngland · 24/05/2022 07:32

Whoops, just realised I quoted the wrong paragraph.

Alexandra2001 · 24/05/2022 07:38

@AlternativePerspective Spot on, BJ isn't going anywhere, which tbh is fantastic news, the longer he stays, the more he trashes the Tory Govt/party and all those associated with him.
The photo's are damming, those empty bottles! this party had been going on for a quite sometime.

The MET clearly didn't fine him again and again because they didn't want to be the 'force that effectively got rid of an elected PM.

It's a not an opposition's job to govern the country, all the tories would do is cherry pick policies that look popular, Cameron never came up with alternatives, just constantly criticised Labour.

Alexandra2001 · 24/05/2022 07:41

Normally I’d be wary of saying that this far out but it’s clear the tories have no answer to the cost of living crisis, and another half-arsed culture wars won’t cut it

They will once we get nearer a General Election, they'll tax the energy companies to the hilt next year.... meanwhile we'll get a few more idea's on how to cook Swan for 13p a day.

jgw1 · 24/05/2022 07:43

Alexandra2001 · 24/05/2022 07:38

@AlternativePerspective Spot on, BJ isn't going anywhere, which tbh is fantastic news, the longer he stays, the more he trashes the Tory Govt/party and all those associated with him.
The photo's are damming, those empty bottles! this party had been going on for a quite sometime.

The MET clearly didn't fine him again and again because they didn't want to be the 'force that effectively got rid of an elected PM.

It's a not an opposition's job to govern the country, all the tories would do is cherry pick policies that look popular, Cameron never came up with alternatives, just constantly criticised Labour.

I think you are right. The window that existed in the winter and spring for the Tories to get rid of the toxic Boris and replace him with someone else in the hope that the electorate would forget about their corruption has probably passed and they are stuck with the car crash that they have brought upon themselves.

jgw1 · 24/05/2022 07:43

It's a not an opposition's job to govern the country, all the tories would do is cherry pick policies that look popular,

Cue u-turn on windfall tax.

cakeorwine · 24/05/2022 07:47

If the Tories want to keep this albatross around their necks, then that's their choice.

The cost of living crisis is going to affect a lot of people - and the answer seems to be to 'get a more well paid job' - well if everyone gets a better job, who's going to do the less well paid jobs.

I don't think they have an answer. It's going to be culture wars attacks - but that does not put food on people's tables or allows people to heat their homes.