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7 days to leave the family home…

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Fearless5 · 22/05/2022 22:28

Firstly apologies for the length of this post, I’ve never told anyone about any of this and now I’ve written it… it’s a lot!

So first, some background… I’ve been married for 15 years and we have 4 children together aged 15, 9, 7 and 2.
DH had an awful childhood and has suspected adhd and autism, got together young, had a baby quickly and basically stuck it out, don’t get me wrong we have had good times scattered in it I’m ashamed to say I’ve made many excuses and allowed myself to be treated very poorly over the years, I’ve never told a soul what my real life is like….

Our middle two children were diagnosed with adhd and autism a few years ago now and are half at home, home schooled by myself and half in a mainstream school. I suspect my youngest is also on the spectrum and although they’re all amazing, nobody knows I do EVERYTHING alone. My DH wouldn’t even know where their clothes were. He flounces out of the house whenever he wants, to see friends, to go to the gym. Occasionally to work…. Me? I would have to ‘ask’ weeks in advance if he would look after his own children, then he would claim I didn’t ask and I would worry that he would loose his temper. So simply, wherever I am, they are. My mum is great and will have them but she often questions why my DH hasn’t had them… I lie and say he’s in work. I’m too embarrassed to tell the truth. I worked hard to get a degree and work part time (from home) ironically as I counsellor, I feel like a fraud when my life is one massive ball of anxiety and lies... my friends and family would swear I was happy, the only thing that gives me joy is my children.
I pay for EVERYTHING alone, any money he gets, he keeps and buys ridiculous things like a £600 remote control car, so many clothes… whilst I walk around in the same clothes I’ve had for years and struggle with bills.

Nobody knows I’ve had years of walking on egg shells and I’m ashamed to say so have my children. His temper, attitude, name calling (to me) and general disinterest in our children has recently been eating me up, I feel deep resentment and can’t get my head around why he can’t see how amazing they are. I hear them trying to talk to him, desperately trying to gain a connection, he’s looking at his phone barely even glancing up. It hurts me so much. I feel I’ve let him get away with so much due to his past and his own issues but where do I draw the line? They are the most precious gift and I put every ounce of my being into trying to be mum and dad, repair the damage he’s done in anger and I’m fed up. Countless meetings and appointments I’ve done alone, we go out daily and he hasn’t come out with us for literally years. We go to theme parks, the beach, the zoo… everywhere… without him. The kids are used to it now but I always feel embarrassed when people ask where he is, I just lie.
I go on holiday tomorrow (only 3 hours away to a lodge) and he’s decided last week he’s not coming! He has a few days of work he just can’t possibly get out of… My child mentioned this to my mum
today and she was so shocked and perplexed (she has no idea we aren’t the perfect team) It makes no difference to me because I do it all alone anyway. In fact I’m looking forward to not being on edge all the time, worried about what mood he’s in or his reaction to the slightest thing. Why do I stay? The truth is, sometimes he can be amazing, he listens and understands and I’m tricked into thinking all will be ok. The next day, BAM. Ignored and left to struggle alone, all the promises already broken.

So… Today my disabled child who is 7 was arguing with their sibling who is 15, just a bit of winding up as siblings do. Well DH lost it. He was shouting so much he lost his voice, I was out packing my car for tomorrow and heard shouting, when I rushed in my 7 year old was being screamed at to wipe up a drink he had accidentally knocked over when leaving the room after being separated from his sibling, my DS calmly said he was getting kitchen roll to clean it but his dad just kept shouting louder and saying ‘clean it now!!!!’ Creating more and more anxiety my sweet son was confused and upset and I stepped in and said ‘what is happening? You need to step out of this situation, you’ve lost control’
Then my son shouted ‘I’m doing it now!’ In pure frustration and DH grabbed him by the neck off the t shirt, pushed him back and shouted whilst pointing in his face not to be cheeky or he would take him upstairs and ‘give him a good hiding’….
I am completely against hitting children and have NEVER done this, DH has many years ago having been hit himself as a child, but thankfully saw the error of his ways after I persuaded him seek psychological help (not by me!) to deal with his own anger, which leads to him taking it out on a child.
Anyway at this point I guided my poor son to his room to safety and calmly (but seething inside) told my DH that I’m going away for one week with the children and when I get back, I don’t want him in the house. I am absolutely disgusted that he could do this to our poor defenceless child and no matter how many years, children and history we have, I’m no longer going to make excuses for this behaviour.

He said I’m a heartless scumbag for giving him just a week, and he’s going to tell everyone so. I said I wonder what everyone will say when they find out why… our marriage has been dead for years, no intimacy, just pure resentment. I own the house, bought just before we met with inheritance money. It’s in my name only but it’s always been our home. He has no money or family to rely on and I’ve said in the past I would help him to get a place, that still stands. I just feel like I can’t have him around the children, who are now even more anxious around him than ever. I never once said he needs to take his things etc, we just need him physically gone. I used to worry myself sick about what would happen to him if he wasn’t at home but I now realise I have four children to care for, he is not one of them.

He has since walked out of the house without a word, who knows when or if he will return?! I haven’t contacted him and certainly won’t… I couldn’t care less at this point…

Am I being unreasonable?!!

OP posts:
ChocolateHippo · 23/05/2022 09:52

If he refuses to leave, you may be able to get an occupation order excluding him from the family home if you can show he is a threat to you and your children.

This is why it is vital at this stage that you report the assault to the police. Also to make sure he doesn't get unsupervised contact going forward.

And put in a claim for CM today... he's got away with paying nothing towards his children for far too long. Time to make him pay.

Shmithecat2 · 23/05/2022 09:59

Threetulips · 23/05/2022 07:22

The op's husband can register his home rights with the land registry to protect himself

Yes he can but it costs money.

There is no cost to registering home rights as long as the property itself is on the land registry.

GCRich · 23/05/2022 09:59

Take care OP... not read much but the only AIBU I can see is if you didn't call an emergency locksmith the second he was out of the door.

Shmithecat2 · 23/05/2022 10:01

@Fearless5

I’m 100% confident he wouldn’t try to claim anything money wise and he’s said many times he wouldn’t lay claim to the house. He’s not clued up financially and wouldn’t know where to start with this either. I doubt it would have crossed his mind to seek legal help.

When you go to court for the consent order, I doubt the judge signing it off will let your dh walk away with zero.....

coffeecupsandfairylights · 23/05/2022 10:03

GCRich · 23/05/2022 09:59

Take care OP... not read much but the only AIBU I can see is if you didn't call an emergency locksmith the second he was out of the door.

She's not allowed to do that.

The house is marital property and therefore he has just as much right to access it as she does.

The fact that it's only her name on the deeds is irrelevant as they're married with four children.

toomuchlaundry · 23/05/2022 10:05

Even if a partner doesn't want to make a claim on marital assets in a divorce they may get granted some as it could be seen as coercion by the other partner.

CupidStunt22 · 23/05/2022 10:06

coffeecupsandfairylights · 23/05/2022 10:03

She's not allowed to do that.

The house is marital property and therefore he has just as much right to access it as she does.

The fact that it's only her name on the deeds is irrelevant as they're married with four children.

And who, exactly, is going to stop her?

toomuchlaundry · 23/05/2022 10:08

I assume legally she could be made to give him access, especially if she has not reported his behaviour to the relevant authorities.

If I stormed out of the house after a petty argument with DH I would hope I would have some legal recourse if he changed the locks whilst I was out

ChocolateHippo · 23/05/2022 10:09

toomuchlaundry · 23/05/2022 10:05

Even if a partner doesn't want to make a claim on marital assets in a divorce they may get granted some as it could be seen as coercion by the other partner.

He will probably get something, but the priority for the court is usually housing the children.

ChocolateHippo · 23/05/2022 10:11

toomuchlaundry · 23/05/2022 10:08

I assume legally she could be made to give him access, especially if she has not reported his behaviour to the relevant authorities.

If I stormed out of the house after a petty argument with DH I would hope I would have some legal recourse if he changed the locks whilst I was out

I assume you wouldn't violently assault your small child and consider that a 'petty argument', though.

Hoppinggreen · 23/05/2022 10:12

ThreeLittleDots · 22/05/2022 22:46

No you can't change the locks

Of course she can, it's her house and not a marital asset

Are you a lawyer and do you know this for a fact?

Snowiscold · 23/05/2022 10:16

And who, exactly, is going to stop her?

If the OP changes the locks, the husband can call a locksmith himself to gain access and keys to his property. No one should change the locks.

ChocolateHippo · 23/05/2022 10:18

Hoppinggreen · 23/05/2022 10:12

Are you a lawyer and do you know this for a fact?

I agree... this could be harmful advice for the OP.

There are two separate issues here - getting him out of the house temporarily so he's not around the children (and the OP doesn't have to deal with his abusive behaviour). And then a separate issue is property entitlements in a divorce.

For the first, unless he agrees to move out, the OP needs an occupation or eviction order excluding him from the family home (and that's why she needs to make a police report). This can be granted regardless of who owns the property. The second matter - who gets what - will be decided in the divorce.

toomuchlaundry · 23/05/2022 10:19

But if the OP hasn't reported the assault there is probably very little difference when it comes to the rights of changing the locks.

Ohmybod · 23/05/2022 10:22

OP I hope you are feeling a small bit better from writing all of this down. So much of your post resonated with me as its very similar to my DMs experience of raising my siblings and I and her relationship with my DF.

Your DC will be fine. In fact some of them sound ready for this change. At 15 I was so relieved when my mum finally asked my DF to leave. It wasn’t easy for her but on balance, improved our lives dramatically. Up until that point I knew nothing else but living on the edge/walking on eggshells at home.

My DF died when he was 60 of a heart attack. It wasn’t instant and he knew he was very ill. I often wonder did he flash back through his life to all the times over the years that his lovely DC tried to connect with and which he ignored. He didn’t know us and he lost out big time. My mum who put in all the hard work has a great relationship with all of us and her DGC. You have all that ahead….

coffeecupsandfairylights · 23/05/2022 10:25

@CupidStunt22 - the police.

It's his home as well. If she locks him out, he can either break in or ask the police to come with him so he can re-gain entry to his house.

You can't just decide to kick your husband out of the marital home, change the locks and have done with it!

CupidStunt22 · 23/05/2022 10:26

coffeecupsandfairylights · 23/05/2022 10:25

@CupidStunt22 - the police.

It's his home as well. If she locks him out, he can either break in or ask the police to come with him so he can re-gain entry to his house.

You can't just decide to kick your husband out of the marital home, change the locks and have done with it!

The police? That don't even come when you get burgled any more? Lol, that's hilarious.

coffeecupsandfairylights · 23/05/2022 10:30

@CupidStunt22 you can laugh all you want 🤷🏻‍♀️

The law says you can't just lock your spouse out of their home and change the locks.

nayyarssolicitors.co.uk/can-a-wife-kick-husband-out-of-house-uk/

CupidStunt22 · 23/05/2022 10:34

I will laugh. The law says a lot of things, but that doesn't mean people don't do it anyway.
The police coming to let a man into the house he's been kicked out of, these days...priceless. You should go into comedy

user1471538283 · 23/05/2022 10:35

You need legal advice but for now I would change the locks. You can plead ignorance if you need to.

Do not worry how he will manage or where he will go, this is none of your concern. You will need all your money and all your focus for you and the children. He is an adult, he can crack on. And he must have plenty of money considering he has never supported himself or his children ....

Acheyknees · 23/05/2022 10:35

All I can say is well done. I think this will not come as a shock to family and friends. While you think you've been putting on a smile making out everything is fine, making excuses for him etc They will have known. Good luck

YukoandHiro · 23/05/2022 10:39

You are not being unreasonable. He walked out on you and your children years ago.
He probably knew this was coming and is angry at himself for doing the thing that finally pushed you to your tipping point. He knows he's on his own now and he's panicking.
You are doing the right thing. Your life will be easier, not harder, once he's gone.
7 days is more than enough. He'll have to cope.

hotandspicy · 23/05/2022 10:40

This guy sounds like a womans worst nightmare. no wonder guys get a bad rap on here reading this.
Your house, get the locks changed the next time you know hes at work or has a few hours away from the house. youve given him warning he needs to leave.
You could potentially use the Police to remove him as hes raised his hands to the children but then that brings in Social Services and its own potential issues so that needs considering if you went down that avenue.
He will prob need a couple of months to find somewhere id imagine, I wouldnt bet on him finding alternative accomodation in a week even if money wasnt an issue.

YukoandHiro · 23/05/2022 10:40

Ps: tell your parents EVERYTHING now so you can't go back on it.
This is your promise to your children to make their lives happier and easier

coffeecupsandfairylights · 23/05/2022 10:42

CupidStunt22 · 23/05/2022 10:34

I will laugh. The law says a lot of things, but that doesn't mean people don't do it anyway.
The police coming to let a man into the house he's been kicked out of, these days...priceless. You should go into comedy

I know full well people do it anyway.

But the last thing I would want to do is piss off an unpredictable man with a violent temper just before I go away on holiday and leave my house unattended for a week 🤷🏻‍♀️

If she changes the locks now and disappears, who's to say what she'll come back home to. He'll probably have changed the locks again and done God knows what to hers and the childrens' stuff in the meantime.

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