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Part 4 AIBU to keep this discussion on Amber and Jonny going?

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ENoeuf · 22/05/2022 18:39

Just in case we run out on part 3

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Midlifemusings · 23/05/2022 20:26

Cantbelieveiusedtowatchthiscrap · 23/05/2022 20:19

This is so biased towards AH, I thought this woman was on for both sides

That is what I mean, these 'experts' are never neutral or unbiased or focused on fact. They seem to all tend to get more and more biased as the tesitmony goes on.

Do they want her sharing all the details of Aquaman 2??!!

ENoeuf · 23/05/2022 20:28

Who is she?

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Midlifemusings · 23/05/2022 20:30

ENoeuf · 23/05/2022 20:28

Who is she?

The witness? A woman who has worked in Hollywood in various movie / film related roles (production, casting etc) for many years and as such is an expert in what happens in Hollywood. No educational background, just experiential background in the field.

ENoeuf · 23/05/2022 20:31

Oh thank you so how does she know all this ? It's just her thinking it is true? They could have got Bette Midler to share her views?

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Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 23/05/2022 20:32

Boulshired · 23/05/2022 19:54

I reckon they have used 3 / 4 hours already today and not even sure they are done yet. There is a risk that Depps team are going to be able to bombard the jury in rebuttal.

I'm betting they're counting on it. It'll be fresh in the jurors minds at the end

Midlifemusings · 23/05/2022 20:35

ENoeuf · 23/05/2022 20:31

Oh thank you so how does she know all this ? It's just her thinking it is true? They could have got Bette Midler to share her views?

www.imdb.com/name/nm0036521/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1
That is her IMDb page - look slike she last worked in film in 2001

This is her own website about herself: www.theentertainmentexpert.com/

I can't find much else.

adriftabroad · 23/05/2022 20:38

Good God, "Her star is born moment"

TheSnowyOwl · 23/05/2022 20:38

Midlifemusings · 23/05/2022 20:12

So many of these 'expert' witnesses are a waste - if I was a juror, I would be rolling my eyes. They are so clearly biased and always just find in favour of whatever side they are on and find against the other side. So many of them don't even seem like experts.

Their opinions are bought so whilst they may (or may not) believe what they say, they are there purely because they are going to agree with whoever is paying them.

Boulshired · 23/05/2022 20:39

It’s reaching to peg Jason and Amber. Jason is aquaman

Midlifemusings · 23/05/2022 20:40

TheSnowyOwl · 23/05/2022 20:38

Their opinions are bought so whilst they may (or may not) believe what they say, they are there purely because they are going to agree with whoever is paying them.

They all cost $600 plus an hour! I need to find a way to be an 'expert'. My opinion can be bought!

Midlifemusings · 23/05/2022 20:41

ENoeuf · 23/05/2022 20:31

Oh thank you so how does she know all this ? It's just her thinking it is true? They could have got Bette Midler to share her views?

She read court documents and talked to Amber and those are her sources for her evidence ... in the context of her being an 'expert' in the industry.

mummyrocks1 · 23/05/2022 20:41

ICanSmellSummerComing · 23/05/2022 18:30

I've not cought up yet but amber's sister and Josh drew are very credible.
Sister possibly best for Amber so far.

Whitney has been found to be lying through her teeth about the top of the stairs incident. She is not credible at all.

ENoeuf · 23/05/2022 20:43

What a waste of time. This is the counter claim though I guess.

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Boulshired · 23/05/2022 20:45

I wonder how DC will feel about the script being shared and talked about in court.

Cantbelieveiusedtowatchthiscrap · 23/05/2022 20:46

God that was boring!

Midlifemusings · 23/05/2022 20:48

mummyrocks1 · 23/05/2022 20:41

Whitney has been found to be lying through her teeth about the top of the stairs incident. She is not credible at all.

I feel for Whitney. She is what is actually meant by an imperfect victim.

I am pretty sure Johnny told his team to go easy on her in the cross. Tehy didnt' ask her much. She has been pretty fragile and hadn't even finished her deposition. Whitney and Johnny got along so well because they both know what it is like to live with Amber. You can hear Jennifer Howell's pain for Whitney in her letter.

adriftabroad · 23/05/2022 20:49

Boulshired · 23/05/2022 20:39

It’s reaching to peg Jason and Amber. Jason is aquaman

Exactly my thoughts.

ENoeuf · 23/05/2022 20:49

Boulshired · 23/05/2022 20:45

I wonder how DC will feel about the script being shared and talked about in court.

That will be next. AH sued for breaking the NDA...

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minou123 · 23/05/2022 20:51

mummyrocks1 · 23/05/2022 20:41

Whitney has been found to be lying through her teeth about the top of the stairs incident. She is not credible at all.

I'm not sure we know that yet. What I mean is it hasn't been evidenced in court yet.
I know twitter is sharing the letter from Jennifer Howell to Whitney.

As far as the court and jury know, she hasnt been found to be lying.....yet!

We'll see I'd they bring her to testify for rebuttal.

KTheGrey · 23/05/2022 20:53

@Boulshired and @Midlifemusings Thank you - I saw on Twitter that the Australian Dr is listed for rebuttal. Even with 15 hours or however much time the Depp lawyers have they are going to be putting those testimonies through at quite some speed.

Rinoachicken · 23/05/2022 20:57

How come that last witness said JD couldn’t claim for lost earnings on Pirates 6 because it didn’t have a script yet - but then went and claimed AH lost millions from films over decades in the future??!! (Which presumable don’t even have titles or scripts or anything yet either?!)

Boulshired · 23/05/2022 20:58

IMO Jennifer doesn’t show proof that Whitney is lying it’s more to show she is unreliable. The jury could still believe Whitney

Chakraleaf · 23/05/2022 21:01

I have not followed this in much detail at all....but I do know I feel uncomfortable with it a bit. Maybe I feel like media is swaying me towards trying to make me call out amber as a liar and that makes me uncomfortable. I actually don't think Johnny is all that.

Midlifemusings · 23/05/2022 21:05

Chakraleaf · 23/05/2022 21:01

I have not followed this in much detail at all....but I do know I feel uncomfortable with it a bit. Maybe I feel like media is swaying me towards trying to make me call out amber as a liar and that makes me uncomfortable. I actually don't think Johnny is all that.

At least on here, few think Johnny is all that. Both can be true - Johnny isn't all that and Amber is a liar.

I am not swayed by media but I have looked at testimony, pictures, recordings etc and I am fully convinced she is a liar based on the evidence available to me.

ENoeuf · 23/05/2022 21:09

Things that have stuck out for me today:

Still no clearer on the finger incident
The slow speech of JD being attributed to cognitive damage
How boring it is to prove loss of earnings

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