Part 4 AIBU to keep this discussion on Amber and Jonny going?

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Just in case we run out on part 3

https://www.iadclaw.org/assets/1/19/TrialTechniquesTacticsDecemberr_2018.pdf

I also read this - the end of it explains tactics

She's from Croydon if I remember correctly.

So this is where hair splitting in legality becomes important.

I'd say, his behaviour of destruction of property is aggressive and psychologically abusive.

I wouldn't class it as "violent". You can't be violent towards an object. A violent crime is when someone physically hurts or threatens to hurt someone, this is then aggrivated when a weapon is used.

So, classification for me. Violent man, no. Abusive man. Yes.

And I agree, with such abuse going on in the house a child safeguarding would definitely be warranted.

Thank you and thanks @Menora

"A man or woman who smashes places up regularly is violent."

Fixed that for you. For all we know they're both as bad as each other at chucking stuff about. The Australia tape seems to suggest that.

Again I wonder with all this that they're not unwittingly seeking over and again the adrenaline rush from a childhood filled with regular chaos, rowing/screaming and throwing objects about. If you've never known what a "normal", "quiet" life is, then I imagine it must be difficult to replicate in adulthood. #armchair psychology.

@unctuousunicorns1 good point. It must be hard to imagine calm.

Dr Curry maybe is talking a load of rubbish (I don’t know), but she presents that rubbish very well

Like I've said, I haven't got a dog in this fight.

I am now nearing the end of this and the testimony. And I think I'm willing to rest my case that both parties are abusive.

I can't tell you who started this circle:

abuse-reactionary violence- reconciliation. And round and round we go.

However on the actual cases, that is monetary damage. I do not believe AH has a proven counter claim of 100million of losses.

But...this is where I am going to get flamed by some.

With regards to the op-ed. I do believe that some defamation has taken place against JD. I believe this because AH has attempted to portray herself as a sole victim, negating all her negative behaviour in the relationship. She has not inferred her abusive behaviour, only that she was ever the victim. This has then cast JD out to be the "sole abuser" "the sole aggressor" when in fact, some of the violence that occured could have been retaliatory, self defence, and also JD has been a victim himself.

I'd award damages to JD but not the full 50million. Circa 5million.

Can someone tell me what Kate miss said? ( pretty please)

Moss (sorry autocorrect!)

you know you can scroll back?

They were on holiday in Jamaica, he left the room before her, she the followed and fell down the stairs, screamed out in pain and bewilderment, he came back and carried her to the room and sought first aid.

She said he didn’t push her down the stairs in Jamaica. She tried to say more but was cut off.

I'd love to hear the discussions really. Dying to know why all of them go up and what they are asking for

I would like to see inside the judge head and what she personally thinks about this case

JD seems to be always looking down with his hands in his lap when he's not being addressed. I reckon he's got his phone under the desk, checking out YouTube and Twitter comments. 😅

@garlicandsapphires
I've been reading this whole thread and those before , it wasn't mentioned, only that she did a good job!
Thanks to posters who replied 😊

They've called JD?

"I'd love to hear the discussions really. Dying to know why all of them go up and what they are asking for"

Oh, indeed!

From the DUI guy in the court room

”The jury appears to be eating out of Curry's hands they are very alert and focused about her every word. Number five is tilting her head again”

Oh I meant you can scroll back on YouTube, at least you can on the one I’m watching (SkyNews) but I think on other channels you can’t.
Kate Moss was very brief, less than 3 minutes. It must’ve been so strange for her to be there, from what I’ve read she adored him. She looked nervous.

Is he a depp fan? I just don't really trust much second hand stuff. I tried to watch Emily baker and all the sniggering was just weird. I know theres a market for it but it seems so weird to get your reactions spoon fed to you

I can't scroll back on any, it's so frustrating.

@garlicandsapphires
Apologies thought you meant the thread! 😉

Agreed, I've just been watching Fox or LACNW, I said earlier I can't be doing with punditry, just give me it straight.