Part 4 AIBU to keep this discussion on Amber and Jonny going?

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Just in case we run out on part 3

@Midlifemusings Thank you, watched it now, yes it ended v abruptly

Probably why he married Talullah Riley three times.

Elon is also on the spectrum. Easy pickings despite his intelligence and wealth

Anyone know what time Kate Moss is on, so curious as to what she’ll say/they’ll ask.
She never puts herself in the spotlight, must’ve really wanted to help to put it out there? 🤷🏻‍♀️

Agree with kate moss. I too am surprised but she really must be feeling something to do this.

Does anyone have a link to JH's testimony on either Fox News or Law and Crime Network please? I can't watch anything with other pundits/"experts" talking over, drives me crackers. Thank you.

There have been rumours flying around SM that the FBI are investigating witness intimidation. I have no idea if there is any truth in this, but did see it was in relation to Jennifer Howell. Not sure how it all works in the US but is there a chance they may not be able to show certain parts of Jennifer Jowells deposition in case it interferes with an active FBI investigation. Just a thought really, as it is strange they didn't discuss what was in her witness statement etc.

That makes sense sizzler. Her home was broken into after it was knowledge she was a JD witness. Could be a coincidence of course.

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They're working overtime now!

I'm not sure those rumours will be true.
There will be reasons to why Jennifer Howell deposition was cut down, but I very much doubt conspiracy theories will be the reason.

I know people will be disappointed that they they didn't hear what they expected. But I think it's important to remember that what we read on twitter or even in main stream media is not necessarily what is going to happen.

As an example, lots of MSM are reporting Kate Moss will testify. It might be true, but then again it might not.

Personally, until I see it in the trial or hear it from the lawyers, it won't be happening.

@minou123 I agree. I'm not saying there is any truth in the rumours, just suggesting a possible theory.

Oh, really!

Being on the spectrum doesn't make you 'easy pickings', thanks very much!

Jesus^^ effing christ.

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It does for a narc.

I'm on the spectrum too and read my previous posts. Jesus fucking Christ

I actually think it is more likely that AHs team objected to most of the deposition but that JDs team thought it was still worth getting her to confirm the sratement is genuine as so many of the public have read it and know what is in it anyway.

There have been reports of death threats on both sides. For Jennifer it was more than the break in. The collateral damage from the trial will last for some time. Expert witnesses have been dragged especially Ambers. Domestic violence has been made into a joke. I’ve always been abuse on both side but Ambers credibility means it’s hard to know what’s truth and what’s not. but there are many on both sides that they are so entrenched that a new video could come out and capture it all or a written confession and they still wouldn’t have it.

She's lying
She's a narcissist
She has previous history of abuse
He's a mess, drugs alcohol
So is she though
His previous partners all say the same. All supportive of him
She got arrested
She's disliked in Hollywood, ex Co stars (see my previous links) I can add more
WB - unbiased
No evidence she was abused
JD - hospital pictures of severed finger

A severed fucking finger? Plus a cigarette burn on his face?

A severed fucking finger? I'll say it again. That's HUGE. Plus audio of her admitting it to kipper as she'd took multiple illegal drugs that night too.

Let's be honest now. AH testimony, her witnesses and her lawyers are a bloody joke. It's embarrassing.

How did it get this far?

That's a rhetorical question btw

@TiddyTidTwo Your whole approach to this is bizarre beyond belief. Who the fuck gets this excited about such a sordid and sad situation?

'No evidence' - she literally has enough evidence that a UK court ruled Depp was physically violent on 12 separate occasions. Whatever you might think about that, don't out and out lie and say she has no evidence. NO court is going to make that finding on 'no evidence'.

Her ex spoke out about the arrest in the clearest possible terms; meanwhile one of Depp’s exes actually testified against him in this trial, he's been arrested on multiple occasions for violent behaviour and is currently being sued for assaulting a crew member on the set of one of his films.

AH isn't winning her counterclaim
JD isn't winning his defamation case

But what has happened is JD has regained credibility, support and reputation. Which is what he wanted. So he wins a personal victory.

Weather you agree he should or not, that's up to you that's anyone's choice to make and opinion to have, and I accept that.

AH however, now has reduced popularity, support and reputation.

Again weather you agree she should, or shouldn't I'll leave that, and respect everyone's personal opinion on it.

Thing I'm more interested is how do we move on from this as a society, what impact will all this have on discussions of domestic abuse and violence. Will it be positive or negative, will more male victims come forward, will women be believed less! I'm very worried about the latter.

'"No evidence' - she literally has enough evidence that a UK court ruled Depp was physically violent on 12 separate occasions. Whatever you might think about that, don't out and out lie and say she has no evidence. NO court is going to make that finding on 'no evidence'.

Her ex spoke out about the arrest in the clearest possible terms;"

My take is bizzare? The uk ruling seriously needs looking into. You cannot look at the live trail and say the closed UK trial with AH as a witness is now fair.

Also the arresting officer when AH attacked her partner was accused of homophobia even though that arresting officer was a lesbian and gay rights activist.

Also see my previous link to her ex Co star witnessing her behaviour, drug taking and trashed apartment years before meeting JD

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"Thing I'm more interested is how do we move on from this as a society, what impact will all this have on discussions of domestic abuse and violence. Will it be positive or negative, will more male victims come forward, will women be believed less! I'm very worried about the latter"

Positive I think. More men will come forward. AH has, mostly imo, pissed women survivors off. Me one of them. I think in general, we can all see the bad egg.

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This is interested. I wonder who TMZ are trying to protect and why now?

I just finished today’s trial. I saw the dr testifying for JD and since I read comments here first, I was left a bit underwhelmed. He did not prove that anything dr yesterday said could not apply. You can argue about that G-something rule on ethics but AH lawyer has said at the end short and simple that court permitted him to give his professional opinion and that one of the associations actually did find exception for the rule such as court setting/forensic psychology. I just found this very hair splitting and close to irrelevant-basically two docs that disagree on approach. Big deal. I would still take yesterdays doctor opinion into account despite not agreeing with all of it(neither am I bothered with diagnosis and specific names)it’s the characterisation he gave that didn’t seem off the mark and made sense after hearing whole trial so far. I’m just very bothered that some of his unintentional demeanour was taken as unprofessional because he didn’t say XYZ but X y.—-Z. I understand those fields are all about words and how you use them but he honestly pretty much didn’t commit any horror other than as said, today doc disagreeing with how he put things and generally disagreeing that he should have even testify without interviewing JD. I actually found yesterday doc spot JD more accurately than dr Curry managed with AH in all those hours(and yes, these are my worthless opinions but there you go)

I actually found yesterday doc spot JD more accurately than dr Curry managed with AH

Of course you did. Because Dr Spiegel was telling you what you wanted to hear and Dr Curry was telling you things you didn't want to hear. You're now a committed Amber Heard supporter so you're never going to want to take anything on board that challenges that. It's very normal. A Depp supporter would be the same the other way round.
I wonder what the jury is thinking, though.

I’m holding off on my final opinion of the uk case until neumeister, if it turns out that none of the abuse images can be verified then I do think the uk trial is on dodgier grounds than before. Different expert witness for amber but the same company who dealt with the data for the sun. The UK trials evidence hasn’t held up and she has been caught in, to put it politely misleading and incorrect statements. It can’t be denied that her testimony in this trial would have effected the UKs judge opinion of her, who at the time found Amber and her friends credible.