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Full Moon mood

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Neverendingdust · 15/05/2022 21:23

Is anyone else having a rather ‘meh’ weekend? I know the weather has been lovely but I can really feel it’s a full moon and was wondering if anyone else feels it too. My anxiety has been high this weekend, could be a coincidence but my mood is heavy so I did a Google et voila! It’s a Full moon tonight 😶 it’s almost as though my logical mind sends me an out of office whenever there’s a FM.

Maybe it’s just me lol…

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Topgub · 16/05/2022 13:20

@FoiledByTheInsect

Ah ok, so you are not from Planet Earth. Greetings.

nowwho is being rude? I dont know anyone who tracks the cycle of the moon. Id only know it was a full moon if I looked outside and saw it. I've never once had a conversation with someone who has said, oooh did you know its a full moon next week?

if you know that once a month things are getting a little hectic, you can also know that things will settle down again

lol. If only. Things are not a little hectic once a month. Do you not think if that was actually the case that we would plan for it? Have extra staff on during a full moon? Use that knowledge to our advantage?

If I knew a shift was going to be a shift from hell in advance I'd be doing something about it.

But we dont. Because there is no correlation.

I've heard people say fucksake must be a full moon tonight millions of times. It never is.

Just like breaking a mirror doesn't result in 7 years bad luck etc

If folk want to use superstition and woo to manage anxiety and make themselves feel better, thats great. But its not actually backed up by any evidence. I'm not sure it even needs to be.

But I sure as shit dont have to agree that there is any merit to it.

Topgub · 16/05/2022 13:24

Lol @Overthewine

Whatever you need to tell yourself

Interesting that you're allowed to completely dismiss my years of experience and all the available evidence but im not allowed to disagree?

FoiledByTheInsect · 16/05/2022 14:06

I've never once had a conversation with someone who has said, oooh did you know its a full moon next week?

You just did, with all the people on this thread. And then you say you'd only know if it was a full moon if you looked out the window, but you never do. And then you say people tell you "ooh it must be a full moon tonight" but apparently it never is... but if you don't look out the window or even care that it's a full moon how do you know if it's a full moon or not. The mind boggles.

Nobody cares if you disagree but why keep on posting without any "available evidence"? Leave the woomongers to it.

Now where's that sacrificial goat got to... damn things they are always escaping

Topgub · 16/05/2022 14:22

@FoiledByTheInsect

Nobody cares if you disagree

Clearly they/you do or they/you wouldn't be so annoyed by it.

Leave the woomongers to it.

why? Pointing out the nonsense is fun.

LicoricePizza · 16/05/2022 14:41

Well the evidence is pretty conclusive for the bipolar cohort. Why is that being discounted? Why no further study?

The fact remains that collectively, since the beginnings of our civilisation people have & continue to experience a link between the full moon & human behaviour, moods, emotions as evidenced by those in front line services or individually.
This phenomenon of people perceiving the full moon in this way persists despite the empirical data on the topic. Hard line empiricists will be happy with that. Nothing more to see. I would argue they’re missing a wealth of evidence that a social approach would better explore & make sense of. One that wouldn’t try to reduce & simplify the phenomena in question, but that would validate & analyse it, potentially yielding new insights or direction for further, even dare I say it yes future empirical study. A multimodal approach to the rich tapestry that is life.
What you’re saying is there’s no scientific evidence of this, therefore it’s not happening. Bit like when HCP’s dismiss patients’ accounts of their symptoms, or rubbish their illness experience, or refuse to listen because if there’s no empirical data (because any research being carried out is that funded by pharmaceuticals with a vested interest in prioritising other illnesses they can better monetise) it doesn’t t exist. In only the recent past many health conditions, that were once previously denied by the medical profession & attributed to a person’s ailing mental health have been accepted as bona fide conditions worthy of treatment. For the patient they always existed, before and after they became medically recognised. Hence the problem with your reliance exclusively on a causal quantitative method of enquiry at the expense of including a qualitative more subjective one.

Would love one of your patients to comment on the full moon now!! Wld make my day ☺️

LicoricePizza · 16/05/2022 15:09

@Topgub above meant to be for you

HRTQueen · 16/05/2022 15:39

@Topgub there has been very limited research into women’s periods syncing (not much money involved is a guess) but many many women report this happens (women’s voices/concerns often ignored)

much research is conflicting about medication particularly anti depressants. Is everything so black and white. Studies show placebos do work when taken as an anti depressants so does that dismiss that anti depressants do not work

Topgub · 16/05/2022 15:42

@LicoricePizza

Perception can be wrong. People can be mistaken

They can say ooofft. Things are always worse on a full moon despite that not being the case. And they reinforce their own bias

If the moon did effect behaviour why doesn't it happen every time? Every 28 days we should be able to observe that change in behaviour in every person, shouldn't we?

There is a lack of a definite pattern.

thecatsthecats · 16/05/2022 15:55

Topgub · 15/05/2022 23:53

@Overthewine

Always happens with a full moon and a new moon, bang on 48hrs before both, shit starts getting progressively more bonkers.

really?

Never at any other time of the month?

There is zero evidence that the moon affects any behaviour.

How on earth could a ball of rock in space make people progressively bonkers?

I kind of figured the extra light makes it harder to sleep. I do find myself pacing around the house trying to get to sleep during a full moon.

And lack of sleep causes the rest.

FoiledByTheInsect · 16/05/2022 15:59

Topgub · 16/05/2022 14:22

@FoiledByTheInsect

Nobody cares if you disagree

Clearly they/you do or they/you wouldn't be so annoyed by it.

Leave the woomongers to it.

why? Pointing out the nonsense is fun.

Annoyed, I don't think so, that's you projecting big time.

I get your kind of comments all the time and equally find it amusing, winding up the know it alls who just cannot resist posting dogmatically on threads they know nothing about.

But I'll not respond to you again as it's getting boring now.

Anyway back to the thread, it brings to mind a family member who had their puppy neutered on a full moon. Routine procedure on healthy animal but his wound would not stop bleeding and he had to be rushed back to the vet's. He was fine in the end but it was a bit scary for all concerned.

Topgub · 16/05/2022 20:05

@FoiledByTheInsect

Yeah, I get that a lot too.

I'll not respond again because its boring/I've got better things to do when the reality is they just can't counter the point.

You being wrong makes it you who doesn't mean I dont know what I'm talking about.

Robin233 · 17/05/2022 07:37

The moon controls the tides and the human body is 70 percent water. It could have effect -, but who knows. Have had an odd few days.

Lovemypeaceandquiet · 17/05/2022 07:52

Yes and in addition I’ve got PMS.

I just couldn’t be bothered to do anything/engage with anyone. It doesn’t help I’ve had a really busy week last week and I’m still tired from it.

Codswallop20 · 21/05/2022 00:44

LicoricePizza · 16/05/2022 11:54

@Topgub

Of course not. But just because something hasn’t been proven empirically, doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. Which seems to be the main crux of your argument.

The empirical method is limited in that it cannot be used to explain some naturally occurring phenomena or human behaviour, when such phenomena are too complex & nuanced for a cause & effect form of study.
You couldn’t possibly control for all confounding variables because there would be too many, they couldn’t even be quantified in the first place, to be then measured in any meaningful statistical way.

Of course the empirical method is suitable for subjects that lend themselves to an objective cause & effect enquiry where you can pin down discrete variable & control for any confounding ones. Without it we’d be screwed.

Observing something phenomenologically however - what people see & feel & collectively notice -which is what’s basically been going on in this thread - is a far more helpful & meaningful way to try to understand something like the impact of the moon on us humans.

Just because there is no “science” on it doesn’t negate its existence or it’s validity. Nor should that be used to negate people’s experiences of it.

And blind faith in the “science” is pretty dangerous too.

That’s what I think anyway!

Brain hurts now lol

Awesome comment. If you want to come to my house and discuss over food and drink of your choosing, you would be most welcome.

I get you but my brain almost melted too

LicoricePizza · 21/05/2022 01:26

Codswallop20 · 21/05/2022 00:44

Awesome comment. If you want to come to my house and discuss over food and drink of your choosing, you would be most welcome.

I get you but my brain almost melted too

Errr not sure how appropriate that is really but happy to discuss virtually!

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