Full Moon mood

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Is anyone else having a rather ‘meh’ weekend? I know the weather has been lovely but I can really feel it’s a full moon and was wondering if anyone else feels it too. My anxiety has been high this weekend, could be a coincidence but my mood is heavy so I did a Google et voila! It’s a Full moon tonight 😶 it’s almost as though my logical mind sends me an out of office whenever there’s a FM.

Maybe it’s just me lol…

Clearly is has an effect all month, but at full moon we get spring tides - the most extreme tides (highest high and lowest low) because earth/ moon sun are in alignment. However, we also get a spring tide at the new moon as well...

Topgub The prevailing science says no, the moon has no effect on human batshittery, except for a possible effect on those with bipolar (see link below).

However, the same science also concluded (on a tiny sample of 74), that the moon has no effect on menstrual cycles. Also being sceptical, having tracked my cycle for years and read various books on it & spoken to other women and observed my daughter, I believe that study is wrong. There are red moon and white moon cycles, and they will change and shift throughout a woman's life, depending on her emotional state. Light pollution is also a factor.

Science doesn't yet have all the answers and can't explain everything, which is why scientists will always have jobs I guess.

www.healthline.com/health/full-moon-effects#full-moon-and-violence

@LanaGardner

Thats quite old?

And could also be explained by conformation bias as could @LicoricePizza

The first line of yours says the evidence is conflicted.

Like phenomena of all kinds a lack of scientific proof doesn’t mean it’s not being observed or experienced - most pple who subscribe to it won’t care about poorly designed studies anyway.

The prevailing science says no, the moon has no effect on human batshittery,

@FoiledByTheInsect

Exactly.

Saying the prevailing evidence shows there is no link and then saying but but but it might!! Is just woo.

Its like saying the prevailing evidence shows that homoeopathy is a load of shot but science doesn't have all the answers!! It might work! 🙄

I used to take 999 calls and things definitely got weirder and busier than usual at full moon

@Topgub
Eh?? Well the moon's quite old...
Anyway there's no "placebo" effect with animals and plants.

@LanaGardner

There is a placebo affect with animals. Not sure about plants.

By old I meant are there no more recent studies?

If police believe in the full moon effect stands to reason they will arrest more people. Doesnt mean its active moon at fault.

@LicoricePizza quite important for HCP especially to be able to critically evaluate the evidence though?

It might work, yes. Just like opening your mind a little might let some light and new ideas in there.

Reading the whole article, actually doing the weeding test and accepting that no human has all the answers is not going to turn you into a lentil-weaving woo person.

Why post on the thread if you aren't even a tiny bit interested?

I can be interested in why people believe a load of nonsense without also believing it.

You think there's a possibility homeopathy might work? 🤣

As for an open mind, always best to not have it so open your brains fall out.

Critically evaluate peer reviewed evidence pertaining to their clinical field & employment of course. Observing phenomena in different settings for personal reflection a little different. Don’t think anyone suggesting influence of the moon to be popping up in any NICE guidelines any time soon! Although having said that I’ve seen worse…😆

its not scientific based is often thrown into an argument to dismiss others experiences but not everything has been proven but phenomenons are still experienced by many

we don’t yet exactly understand why anti depressants work

most of us have been taking paracetamol before it was fully understood how it worked

womens periods syncing is often dismissed

transference and counter transference was dismissed until recently (and still often is) dismissed

are all peoples experiences dismissed because they have no basis in science

@HRTQueen

If the experience can't be observed or replicated then, yes, I think its ok to dismiss it or at the very least point out that there is no link.

Should we belive every nessie hunter who observed nessie?

If there is conflicting observations (one who thinks pt behaviour is worse on a full moon and one who thinks it doesn't make a difference) who do we dismiss? They can't both be right?

@LicoricePizza

I'm sure some would love a NICE guideline for a full moon!

@garlicandsapphires

Well astrologically speaking, this full moon lunar eclipse fell in the sign of Scorpio, the ruler of death and rebirth and being a bit of a moody fucker (I am one!) and also it's on the north/south nodal axis which is a "karma" point that can expand the energy of the eclipse. The full moon is also square to the solar system task master Saturn so that's a big lump of heavy energy right there too...

And to anyone who says oh astrology is a load of shit

i agree. Thank god science can’t explain all the mysteries of life away.

@Topgub
No idea why you're getting nasty with people, feel superior much ?
Anyway you're a debunker
Nothing is ever going to change your mind
You're wasting everyone's time when all you really wanted to to is say it's a load of bollocks and feel superior
I'd say spend more time in nature but what's the point.

So if you are interested 😂I believe this "load of nonsense" because my experience of western post-industrial society and mainstream medicine has left me with problems that "woo" has cured. Western diet and medicine has made me iller physically and mentally, I got better by disregarding it and looking elsewhere for answers. Moon "nonsense" etc. is about distilling the wisdom of previous civilisations, cultures and generations (instead of thinking they were all cave dwelling loonies), discarding the dross and false beliefs and combining what the ancients knew about nature with the positive things about Descartes, Newton & Co and learning about what we cannot see but still exists. So now you know.

I know nothing about homeopathy so can't comment on whether it works or not, but won't dismiss it out of hand.

As for your last (rude) comment yes fair enough, but hermetically sealing the brain will starve it to death but I'm sure you've moved onto the latest cat poo thread by now anyway so that's ok.

Work nights in a dementia unit, definitely notice it.

@Topgub you seem fairly insistent in your dismissal of these claims. It clearly has some effect on you or else you wouldn’t have clicked on the thread title and done research to validate your claims….

Having seen the science that some NICE guidelines are based on though, I’d prefer the moon ones if am honest! Not all science is good science. Even peer reviewed, gold standard RCTs am afraid. They inform health policy & can do a lot of damage.

I work in hospitality and with animals, both environments you can see a marked difference in how people and animals behave around a full moon.

Also have friends who are doctors and in the police and yes it's a well known phenomenon that people behave differently at a full moon.

A number of people who work in mh have had this experience a number of people haven’t (same with transference/counter transference)

many working in mh are very disconnected to those they work with and many are not

many mh professionals feel this to be true many don’t

do you also not believe women’s periods sync. Work on a womans ward you will soon have a change on mind

I saw a consultant about my painful knee. I asked him about taking supplements like glucosamine. He told me it had not been scientifically proven but he himself took it just in case it did help . If it’s good enough for him! I have been in a foul mood this weekend for no apparent reason so it’s good to have an explanation.

I had such a horrible moody day yesterday, starting arguments with DH for no reason, stomping about like a bear with a sore head. Then was awake loads last night feeling really tearful, deciding at 3am I was a terrible mother and wife. I hadn't twigged it was a full moon but it makes sense - I always sleep terribly with a FM but last night's was a real stinker!