Lee Anderson, Ashfield MP insists Jack Monroe has made a fortune on the backs of the poor.

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AIBU to hope for a libel trial as entertaining as Vardy v Rooney and an outcome that rivals the Katy Hopkins debacle?

If she didn’t file and pay her taxes, that is tax evasion. It doesn’t have to be sophisticated and it often isn’t.

You can see on Companies House accounts haven’t been filed for a long time.

Companies House accounts are not the same as a tax return - late accounts doesn’t imply non payment of taxes at all.

She was really quick to get her personal PayPal details out on Twitter collecting donations for a case that she hadn’t yet found a lawyer to take on.

And she’s blocking anyone that asks for their money back.

But hey, grifters gotta grift. If you follow Jack Monroe long enough you’ll notice the pattern. Nothing changes.

Sorry cross posted with the pp - obviously if you know that she didn’t file tax returns that’s different.

It is, however, almost certainly not tax evasion (where somebody deliberately attempts to not pay taxes that are owing). Tax evasion tends to be a tad mor sophisticated than ‘hey, how about I just don’t file my tax returns for a couple of years’.

What do you call failing to file accounts?

If you have a limited company, you channel all your income through that company. If you don't file your accounts, the HMRC doesn't know how much money your business has made. So you don't pay tax.

The accounts were supposed to have been filed last June. Still haven't been filed.

I'd call that tax evasion. Deliberately avoiding paying taxes that are owing.

Sorry to be really capitalist and everything, but what's wrong with making money out of poor people? Or any other people? That means your providing something they want at a price that is good value.

Companies House accounts are not the same as a tax return - late accounts doesn’t imply non payment of taxes at all.

Jack confirmed themselves on Twitter that they hadn’t paid yet and as far as I recall said that it was due to being disorganised, bad mental health, autism and ADHD.

Basically the same excuses they use whenever anyone dares to question them about anything. The comment “my mental health is shot” must be one of their most used on Twitter.

The last time Jack M was in the headlines I thought she sounded interesting and looked her up on Twitter.I was blocked from seeing her tweets even though I'd never communicated with her. It told all I needed to know about her and I'm not sure anyone has some bizarre monopoly on poverty if they ever used a food bank.

He's an ex coal miner.
Once the bastion of the British working class.

A real live genuine working class person.
Graft, real graft.

She wasn’t poor.

ahe had a period where she lives like she was in poverty. But had several outs.

If you live like you are poor, but could easily choose to not be and get out of poverty then you aren’t poor.

At least he was poor at some point

I don't have a problem with that per se. I do have a problem with a wealthy young woman taking donations from people living in poverty because she pretends she's poor.

That's a real reverse Robin Hood tactic.

Genuinely poor people don’t need a ‘representative’. Especially one from a wealthy middle class family. It devalues everything.
What we need is a shift so that the true voices of people struggling are being put out there. It’s very easy for the media to ring up JM and stick her on the TV. It’s wrong though.

The idea of a food bank making a cooking course mandatory in order for someone to access a food parcel offensive and insensitive. Imagine getting to the point where the cupboards are bare, and you have run out of cash. You pluck up the courage to get a food bank referral then you are told you must to do a cooking course to access a food parcel. It must feel humiliating, and a waste of time if you can already cook but have simply run out of money. I don’t imagine that people in crisis who need a food parcel are in the right headspace to take in cookery lessons. Education in cooking needs to happen for the whole population.

I like Jack Monroe, and I don't understand the hatred expressed here. She has never claimed to be some new Messiah, never claimed that all her life decisions have been good - all she has done is write cookbooks which take into account that the user may not have lots of money or exotic ingredients. I don't think she deserves all the vitriol at all.

Can someone actually explain why what he has said is libelous / defamation please? Unless there is a whole more to what he said (Google is not shedding light).

She's not doing this for free so who exactly do people think are paying for the paletron and / or books?

Jack always reminds me of pulp common people. The claims of poverty and asking for donations off her followers after how many books, columns etc he's not wrong really, I doubt it's the rich and wealthy donating and buying these things considering her targeted audience.

No she pretended she was poor. She wasn’t.
She chose to live in the conditions she did. And uses that to pretend she knows what it’s like to be actually poor.

She has taken money from people who believe her lies under false pretences and kept it.

Those are the things she did.

Jacks the kind of poor that is palatable on Morning TV.

Stick a Benefit Street person on This Morning...
stick a black single mum from Jaywick on a cooking show.. lets see their Patreons or PayPal's or KoFis
I guarantee people wouldn't be so quick to donate, they'd be quick to blame them or start mentioning big tellies, sky TV and mobile phones, just like you see on some threads here.

Jack walked out of a decent job in the fire service.
Claims they were too ashamed to tell parents and ask for help, but not so ashamed to broadcast it on a blog and start begging donations. That should tell you everything really.

The idea of a food bank making a cooking course mandatory in order for someone to access a food parcel offensive and insensitive. Imagine getting to the point where the cupboards are bare, and you have run out of cash. You pluck up the courage to get a food bank referral then you are told you must to do a cooking course to access a food parcel. It must feel humiliating, and a waste of time if you can already cook but have simply run out of money. I don’t imagine that people in crisis who need a food parcel are in the right headspace to take in cookery lessons. Education in cooking needs to happen for the whole population.

The course is NOT compulsory.

www.theguardian.com/society/2022/may/12/an-insult-to-the-whole-community-mps-food-bank-comments-out-of-touch-in-sutton-in-ashfield-say-locals

Who now shafts the poor for a living 😍😍

Schools need to teach cookery from a young age. And proper cookery and budgeting. We are failing our children because they just aren't taught any household management skills at all. My kids learned how to make scones and not much else. Where were the basic staples?

I agree. Jack Monroe suggests strategies she has found helpful. MPs have subsidised restaurants and bars and a subsistence allowance as well as generous expenses. Monroe isn’t telling people that food poverty is down to their inability to cook or budget.

Yes, the Tories really should put a lot more funding into education.

Parents are supposed to teach children things too. Schools can't do everything.