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Lee Anderson, Ashfield MP insists Jack Monroe has made a fortune on the backs of the poor.

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newnamethanks · 15/05/2022 16:47

AIBU to hope for a libel trial as entertaining as Vardy v Rooney and an outcome that rivals the Katy Hopkins debacle?

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SlightlyGeordieJohn · 20/05/2022 22:05

Tilltheend99 · 20/05/2022 21:56

People giving their money to a cause they believe in is not “taking money from some quite poor people” If that was the case why do we let people use their money on online gambling or the lottery? It’s also usually less well off people giving money to charity as they can empathise with the situation of others so maybe we should cancel Children in Need and Comic Relief if the only criteria for something being fraudulent is that “some quite poor people” might be giving money to it.

Let’s all keep looking the other way about people like Rishi Sunak and his wife who make it onto the rich list by claiming non dom status and green card. The 1% are the real grifters.

What? Pretty much everything that you have written there is utter rubbish.

We have no “green card” in the UK, Sunak’s wealth has pretty much nothing to do with his wife’s tax status, and the rich give far more per head than the poor to charity.

Do you even understand what non-dom status means, or are you just annoyed anyway?

Tilltheend99 · 20/05/2022 22:24

SlightlyGeordieJohn · 20/05/2022 22:05

What? Pretty much everything that you have written there is utter rubbish.

We have no “green card” in the UK, Sunak’s wealth has pretty much nothing to do with his wife’s tax status, and the rich give far more per head than the poor to charity.

Do you even understand what non-dom status means, or are you just annoyed anyway?

Did you not follow the story about him claiming an American Green card, despite living in the U.K?

What I said is no more mad then people blaming minor social media figures who used to be poor for supposedly ‘taking money’ from poor people (people who don’t have money don’t choose to give their money in a donation without being under duress if they have no money. And it would only be fraudulent if they took the money but didn’t use it for the legal action. If that was the case you could contact Patreon and get it shut down as you can with any JustGiving type site is there is proof the money hasn’t gone to who or what it was intended for) when billions of pounds in taxpayer money has gone to friends of friends on I tendered contracts that in some cases resulted in no ppe or unusable ppe. (just as one example)

BTW lucky this site is anonymous as constantly saying people are taking money without proof sounds fairly libellous IOM

Surprised this stays up when threads about what celebs are really like etc get taken down so quickly.

Tilltheend99 · 20/05/2022 22:26

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MrsRuggles · 20/05/2022 22:31

AllotmentTime · 15/05/2022 17:09

Why can she say it and he can’t…

Because she is drawing on personal experience of poverty to say “it’s shit, here are strategies that may help you”

Whereas he is looking down from a place of spectacular privilege to say “you’re doing it wrong and your poverty is your own fault”.

How people can’t see the difference between those two positions is astonishing to me.

Exactly. Jack gives clearly costed recipes, the tory twat said a person can eat on 30p a day. I hope JM is as successful with any court procedures against Lee Anderson as they were with K. Hopkins.

SlightlyGeordieJohn · 20/05/2022 22:36

Tilltheend99 · 20/05/2022 22:24

Did you not follow the story about him claiming an American Green card, despite living in the U.K?

What I said is no more mad then people blaming minor social media figures who used to be poor for supposedly ‘taking money’ from poor people (people who don’t have money don’t choose to give their money in a donation without being under duress if they have no money. And it would only be fraudulent if they took the money but didn’t use it for the legal action. If that was the case you could contact Patreon and get it shut down as you can with any JustGiving type site is there is proof the money hasn’t gone to who or what it was intended for) when billions of pounds in taxpayer money has gone to friends of friends on I tendered contracts that in some cases resulted in no ppe or unusable ppe. (just as one example)

BTW lucky this site is anonymous as constantly saying people are taking money without proof sounds fairly libellous IOM

Surprised this stays up when threads about what celebs are really like etc get taken down so quickly.

Go on then, why don’t you explain why having a US green card helps his tax situation, and what you think non-dom status means?

ChristinaXYZ · 20/05/2022 22:51

Lee Anderson was a miner and is from a family of miners. He is hardly out of touch. The recent intake of Tory MPs contains quite a few from working class backgrounds.

"[Munroe]'s childhood, by her own admission, was not a deprived one. Her grandfather owned some hotels. Her dad was an MBE. Monroe herself went to grammar school. This is a far cry from Anderson’s early life. He’s from Ashfield. He did not take the 11-plus but rather went to a technical college and then followed his father and his grandfather down the pits. He’s one of an infinitesimally small number of MPs who has experience of manual labour. For Monroe to suggest he is a ‘rich white privileged’ man is ridiculous."

www.spiked-online.com/2022/05/18/why-the-middle-class-left-loves-jack-monroe

WilmaFlintstone1 · 20/05/2022 23:02

MrsRuggles · 20/05/2022 22:31

Exactly. Jack gives clearly costed recipes, the tory twat said a person can eat on 30p a day. I hope JM is as successful with any court procedures against Lee Anderson as they were with K. Hopkins.

The Tory twat actually said meals can be made for 30p a portion. No different to Jack costing meals at 11p a potion. Neither of them taking into account the additional costs of travel to buy the food, the cost of buying the whole ingredient and cost of electricity/gas etc to cooks and food.

They are both twats in my opinion. Jack may be slightly less of a twat.

Her case will go nowhere.

Andromachehadabadday · 21/05/2022 02:17

BTW lucky this site is anonymous as constantly saying people are taking money without proof sounds fairly libellous IOM

Surprised this stays up when threads about what celebs are really like etc get taken down so quickly.

So when she asked people for money to help legal fees and claims she is still poor. And didn’t use the money on legal fees and hasn’t, as far as I know, said what happened to the money? You don’t consider that taking peoples money? It’s manipulation.

i also wish people would stop trying to excuse JM by saying that people will only give if they can afford it. You see in all sorts of circumstances that, that is simply not true.

Exactly. Jack gives clearly costed recipes, the tory twat said a person can eat on 30p a day. I hope JM is as successful with any court procedures against Lee Anderson as they were with K. Hopkins.

@MrsRuggles The poster you have quoted has been proved wrong over and over on this thread. She didn’t live a life of poverty. It’s incredible people still believe that.

Her target audience is people living in poverty. Which she gained and targeted through lying. That’s where she makes her money. He might be a twat, but he isn’t wrong. And him being a twat has no impact on wether it’s true or it not.

MaryAndHerNet · 21/05/2022 06:25

BTW lucky this site is anonymous as constantly saying people are taking money without proof sounds fairly libellous IOM

Proof?

Google her Patreon. It's all there. monthly contributions from people.

And, I'll even attach a screen, someone asked for their money back after JM shared their private PayPal address. Shortly there after, the person asking for a refund locked their account for reasons I know, but I have a suspicion.
Notice JM didn't just say,
"yep, sure, I'll refund it now" to the request. Notice it's,
"If that's what you want"

Now for pure speculation purposes:

How many of her 100s of thousands of followers saw the deleted tweet sharing their PayPal?
If even 1% of followers (5300 people)
Donated £1, thats £5300 for 1 tweet..
What if that 1% donated £5? Or £10? Or more?

This is a person who has written several books, some of which have been on best seller lists..
They claim they make nothing from the books, after near 10 years doing so, yet their funding their lifestyle somehow, the lifestyle JM calls 'working class' as they stay up till 2am tweeting, don't have to get up and go to the office or the factory or the warehouse or down the pit in a morning, they don't have a boss, etc..

Lee Anderson, Ashfield MP insists Jack Monroe has made a fortune on the backs of the poor.
ermagerdabear · 21/05/2022 07:41

People giving their money to a cause they believe in is not “taking money from some quite poor people”

What 'cause' is that then? The Jack Monroe Fund for EBay Spoons? The Jack Monroe Fund for Tiffany Earrings? She's not a registered charity, nor is she actually doing anything or even achieving anything apart from spouting shite on Twitter all day.

She sort of hints that she's giving away excess money to charities because she claims she only takes a living wage, but there's no actual evidence that she actually does it.

WilmaFlintstone1 · 21/05/2022 07:42

She has gone on record saying she works 100hr weeks, she doesn’t as Twitter doesn’t count as far as I know.

She’s also made a snarky comment about Jamie Oliver not supporting the campaign by Marcus Rashford. in fact he did and retweeted what MR was doing (or his professional Twitter people did) plus he has also openly campaigned for FSM since around 2007. Jack was silent during the MR campaign apart from doing a cooking demo with him at one point.

Yes JO is like Marmite and some hate him. He is right though and BOGOF needs to change so the included foods are nutritious ones as well as the cheaper (nothing needs to be cooked) ones.

She needs to sit down and stop her tweeting and do some proper work. I’d like to take her out with me all week to see the reality of work, she wouldn’t last a day. Complex family situations, safeguarding, poverty, poor housing etc….I see it all and deal with it. I earn so little my wage is topped up by UC.

That’s what work is….not ranting on Twitter until all hours while pretending to be poor.

MaryAndHerNet · 21/05/2022 07:56

That’s what work is….not ranting on Twitter until all hours while pretending to be poor.

1.51am

Not a great idea to do that if you had to be up 6am to do your shift at Asda or Aldi or 8.30 at the office or 8am at Amazon Warehouse so on and so on.

Scrabbling financially... After what? 8 books?
Many media appearances, many columns in papers, blog ads, Patreon, PayPal Yadda Yadda..
Yet she is scrabbling and financially insecure.. still...

Lee Anderson, Ashfield MP insists Jack Monroe has made a fortune on the backs of the poor.
Tombero · 21/05/2022 09:27

I heard JM this week saying she works 120 hour weeks, that’s 17 hours a day, every day. I feel that stretches my credulity.

From her profile, her books, her appearances, her tip jar, paypal, her patron, she should have a decent income. If she doesn’t and I was her family / friend, I’d be trying to support her to work out why not.

Back to the original point of the thread, for me the phrase ‘Two wrongs don’t make a right springs’ to mind about JM and LA.

irishfeminist · 21/05/2022 14:50

Scrabbling financially? She's just returned from a holiday in Venice!

Borisblondboufant · 21/05/2022 14:53

Tombero · 21/05/2022 09:27

I heard JM this week saying she works 120 hour weeks, that’s 17 hours a day, every day. I feel that stretches my credulity.

From her profile, her books, her appearances, her tip jar, paypal, her patron, she should have a decent income. If she doesn’t and I was her family / friend, I’d be trying to support her to work out why not.

Back to the original point of the thread, for me the phrase ‘Two wrongs don’t make a right springs’ to mind about JM and LA.

‘Working’ is being on Twitter. The last court case mentioned her many sock accounts. I doubt things have changed.

donquixotedelamancha · 21/05/2022 16:04

I heard JM this week saying she works 120 hour weeks, that’s 17 hours a day, every day. I feel that stretches my credulity.

Yeah that's a claim she makes a lot. She has a full time PA so if she really does work such long hours she must sell a lot of merchandise.

SlightlyGeordieJohn · 21/05/2022 16:10

Borisblondboufant · 21/05/2022 14:53

‘Working’ is being on Twitter. The last court case mentioned her many sock accounts. I doubt things have changed.

I didn’t know that. Is it public record, and so able to be discussed here?

LeSquigh · 21/05/2022 16:23

Snoozer11 · 15/05/2022 17:23

I too belive there is a huge amount of dishonesty in Monroe's backstory.

Allegedly she used to have a well-paid job in the fire service that would have set her up for life.

I think she has done a lot of good, though.

I also think that many people are in dire straits because they either can't or won't budget, rely too much on luxuries and can't cook. Certainly not all, and we are all feeling the pinch - but if education helps even just a handful of food bank users then I am all for it.

With the reliance on ready meals and processed junk and very few learning to cook standard, healthy meals from scratch, we have seen an overwhelmingly negative impact on society and I think this is responsible for many of the issues we face today with fitness, health, obesity, poverty and the NHS.

I know exactly what job she had in the fire service and it is not overly well paid, especially if you are a single parent - certainly not a job that would set you up for life. It is also very difficult to get part time or flexible working. I know people that knew her, and her back story surrounding her job is true.

Rantypanties · 21/05/2022 16:51

Oh I don’t know, id quite fancy a £27k job right now! Whilst going part time/asking for flexibility is difficult, her ex partner was definitely in the picture throughout her sons life, as referenced by her in the guardian article she wrote.

SlightlyGeordieJohn · 21/05/2022 17:01

Rantypanties · 21/05/2022 16:51

Oh I don’t know, id quite fancy a £27k job right now! Whilst going part time/asking for flexibility is difficult, her ex partner was definitely in the picture throughout her sons life, as referenced by her in the guardian article she wrote.

It was a job for life, her partner was wealthy, and shared parenting with her, and her family were, and are, rich.

As has been pointed out before, she’s maybe got a different view of poverty than many other people, and to steal and re-use the line someone else did, quoting Jarvis Cocker, in my opinion she could have called her dad and he’d have stopped it all.

jaffacakesareepic · 21/05/2022 17:35

She has gone on record saying she works 100hr weeks, she doesn’t as Twitter doesn’t count as far as I know.

There are whole swathes of people who are employed to, amongst other things, post on twitter

WilmaFlintstone1 · 21/05/2022 19:53

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MaryAndHerNet · 21/05/2022 20:47

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Today she launched them on a woman that's suffering from HIV.

Just, take a second to think about that.

Someone that doesn't believe the tales from the book of Monroe, says so by calling out JM using the phrase "Literally Starving"

JMs 500k followers set against the woman with HIV. Tagging in the woman's employer. Calling her all kinds of names etc.
JM says nothing against them, but starts liking tweets in support of the pile on and she starts arguing that she was literally starving...
Then JM uses names of dead people that have starved to death to score a few points..

And people defend her behaviour.

WilmaFlintstone1 · 22/05/2022 07:35

MaryAndHerNet · 21/05/2022 20:47

Today she launched them on a woman that's suffering from HIV.

Just, take a second to think about that.

Someone that doesn't believe the tales from the book of Monroe, says so by calling out JM using the phrase "Literally Starving"

JMs 500k followers set against the woman with HIV. Tagging in the woman's employer. Calling her all kinds of names etc.
JM says nothing against them, but starts liking tweets in support of the pile on and she starts arguing that she was literally starving...
Then JM uses names of dead people that have starved to death to score a few points..

And people defend her behaviour.

What I found disturbing is that JM highlighted the tweet to her followers knowing exactly what would happen. The abuse some of her followers gave to the woman was disturbing.

I see my previous post was deleted. Not sure what I said that was against the guidelines .

I blocked her on Twitter long ago, I see what she does via other accounts and am noting that a lot more people are calling out her nonsense.

Still, she’s the poverty stricken darling of the champagne socialists who can tick “knowing a poor person” off their list.

StrawberryLipstickStateOfMind1 · 22/05/2022 09:40

WilmaFlintstone1 · 22/05/2022 07:35

What I found disturbing is that JM highlighted the tweet to her followers knowing exactly what would happen. The abuse some of her followers gave to the woman was disturbing.

I see my previous post was deleted. Not sure what I said that was against the guidelines .

I blocked her on Twitter long ago, I see what she does via other accounts and am noting that a lot more people are calling out her nonsense.

Still, she’s the poverty stricken darling of the champagne socialists who can tick “knowing a poor person” off their list.

It's disturbing, but not surprising.