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Lee Anderson, Ashfield MP insists Jack Monroe has made a fortune on the backs of the poor.

736 replies

newnamethanks · 15/05/2022 16:47

AIBU to hope for a libel trial as entertaining as Vardy v Rooney and an outcome that rivals the Katy Hopkins debacle?

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Andromachehadabadday · 15/05/2022 23:30

cakeorwine · 15/05/2022 23:26

She also sells books.If you read the thread you will see why people dislike her.
It’s so lazy, when the information is right here in the thread, to pull the ‘is it cause she supports trans people

Nothing wrong with selling books.

She did upset Hopkins - who has a lot of supporters out there.

Who said there was anything wrong with selling books.

you said her recipes were free in her website. In response to a comment about her raising money for a food bank, when that money was used for buying her books.

I pointed that she also sells books. Not just free recipes on her website. Nowhere did I state she was wrong for selling books

Cant imagine anyone is slightly bothered about KH in anyway, tbh.

cakeorwine · 15/05/2022 23:31

She gave many copies free to foodbanks, got Asda to return Smart Price food to their stores, and spent many many hours doing the Vimes Boots Index as the RPI included champagne and £10 ready meals ffs! She gives much of her stuff away for free online, and sells books to people who WANT to buy them, enabling her to continue her philanthropy. What is your problem with that

I bet a lot of people got annoyed when they realised that their measure of inflation is lower than it is for other people.

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donquixotedelamancha · 15/05/2022 23:31

@Blinky21

Could you explain why you think her libel attempt will succeed? I can't see what he said that isn't subjective opinion.

ermagerdabear · 15/05/2022 23:31

Glad someone's mentioned the Vimes Boot Index! Can someone point me to towards where she's published it?

cakeorwine · 15/05/2022 23:34

Andromachehadabadday · 15/05/2022 23:30

Who said there was anything wrong with selling books.

you said her recipes were free in her website. In response to a comment about her raising money for a food bank, when that money was used for buying her books.

I pointed that she also sells books. Not just free recipes on her website. Nowhere did I state she was wrong for selling books

Cant imagine anyone is slightly bothered about KH in anyway, tbh.

Then why mention it?

She sells books of cheap recipes. She has recipes on her website. Food banks have copies of her book which they can photocopy for free.

Do you have any problem with that?

She made people look at inflation and how it's measured.

Do you have any problem with that?

Andromachehadabadday · 15/05/2022 23:34

Who said Lee amAnderson was a hero?

Andromachehadabadday · 15/05/2022 23:40

cakeorwine · 15/05/2022 23:34

Then why mention it?

She sells books of cheap recipes. She has recipes on her website. Food banks have copies of her book which they can photocopy for free.

Do you have any problem with that?

She made people look at inflation and how it's measured.

Do you have any problem with that?

Are you drunk?

Again, someone mentioned that she raised money for a food bank. But that money went on buying her book for the food bank users. So a portion of the money raised was simply to line her own pocket.

You then claimed her recipes are free and on her websites. I pointed out that was incorrect and she sells books. How, exactly, is that saying the fact that she sells books a problem? or that she has a website is a problem?

I mentioned it because you made a statement that was incorrect.

If the only way you can try and make out she is some sort of defender of the poor is to talk round in circles, there’s clearly an issue.

Who exactly did she make sure looked at inflation?

Her back story is a lie. She still lies now to get people to donate money to her. She knows her target audience is primarily those in poverty, that ma who she intended her target audience to be. Yet claims poverty while earning quite a lot of money.

But non of that means she can’t sell a book if she wants to.

Luculentus · 15/05/2022 23:41

SavoyCabbage · 15/05/2022 21:07

Does anyone know which pit he worked at and in what capacity and for how long ? I don't know what pit but he started in 1986 and he worked as a miner for ten years. He uses the words 'worked down the pit' and 'followed my dad down the pit' and 'worked as a miner'.

He doesn't say 'worked for a mining company.' or anything like that.

Word is that he was a surface worker, so "down the pit" is stretching it a bit.

ermagerdabear · 15/05/2022 23:44

Hilarious how much she's conned people into believing her bullshit. The Vimes Boot Index doesn't exist, she didn't make Asda return the Smart Price brand to their stores because it never went away and a 'philanthropist' wouldn't con people who were worse off themselves into donating money to their personal PayPal account to pay for a court case that isn't going to come off.

They'd probably pay their taxes as well come to think of it.

cakeorwine · 15/05/2022 23:47

Who exactly did she make sure looked at inflation

The ONS

www.theguardian.com/business/2022/jan/26/cost-of-living-crisis-ons-inflation-jack-monroe

Mike Hardie, the head of inflation statistics at the ONS, said in a blog the published annual inflation rate – currently 5.4% – was an average for all households. “But everyone has their own personal inflation rate. Some people may spend a larger proportion of their income on gas and electricity, or petrol if you commute via car daily.”
The move was welcomed by the food writer and activist Jack Monroe, who has exposed how prices for cheaper food products have soared as availability fell, contributing to rising hunger and poverty.

StrawberryLipstickStateOfMind1 · 15/05/2022 23:47

ermagerdabear · 15/05/2022 23:44

Hilarious how much she's conned people into believing her bullshit. The Vimes Boot Index doesn't exist, she didn't make Asda return the Smart Price brand to their stores because it never went away and a 'philanthropist' wouldn't con people who were worse off themselves into donating money to their personal PayPal account to pay for a court case that isn't going to come off.

They'd probably pay their taxes as well come to think of it.

Yep, she's truly awful, and that's putting it mildly.

Andromachehadabadday · 15/05/2022 23:51

cakeorwine · 15/05/2022 23:47

Who exactly did she make sure looked at inflation

The ONS

www.theguardian.com/business/2022/jan/26/cost-of-living-crisis-ons-inflation-jack-monroe

Mike Hardie, the head of inflation statistics at the ONS, said in a blog the published annual inflation rate – currently 5.4% – was an average for all households. “But everyone has their own personal inflation rate. Some people may spend a larger proportion of their income on gas and electricity, or petrol if you commute via car daily.”
The move was welcomed by the food writer and activist Jack Monroe, who has exposed how prices for cheaper food products have soared as availability fell, contributing to rising hunger and poverty.

As I said before, you might want to read the thread.

SweetSakura · 15/05/2022 23:52

I read some of her blogs really early on, when money was tight for me. I remember being really frustrated as she gradually edited out inconvenient truths from her original life story.

The actual story might have shades of grey and poor decisions ... But at least it was genuine.

It's a shame because her campaigning on food poverty is good. But she's alienated a lot of support by being fairly creative with the truth.

MaryAndHerNet · 15/05/2022 23:52

She gave many copies free to foodbanks
Wrong, there was a crowdfund to buy the books which she then profttied from on each sale.

Got Asda to return Smart Price food to their stores
WRONG Asda had a supy chain issue in her local stores there was plenty of smart.proce.produce in other stores.

and spent many many hours doing the Vimes Boots Index as the RPI included champagne and £10 ready meals ffs!
Wrong. She may have pointed it out, but it was already being worked on before she did.

She gives much of her stuff away for free online, and sells books to people who WANT to buy them, enabling her to continue her philanthropy.
Philanthropy would be better shown with her time than her asking for donations to her personal PayPal...

Lee Anderson (who claimed £220k of expenses in a year
220k on expenses.. breaks down to:

Office Costs
£33,144.30
Staff Travel
£174.00
Staffing
£165,215.27

This is money going to pay people that work in his constituency office.. and it's checked and verified before payment.

Clymene · 15/05/2022 23:54

@Joeblack066 -happily. Monroe has made a career out of supposedly helping the poor. But there is zero evidence that anything she does actually benefits the people she purports to help. It's all a middle class back slapping exercise.

ermagerdabear · 15/05/2022 23:57

The ONS were already looking to change how they calculated inflation. Nothing to do with Jack, but good of her to take credit. She also wasn't comparing like for like. I believe the price of Smart Price rice hasn't changed, but it happened to be out of stock on the day that she visited her local Asda. I will of course retract my statement when the Vimes Boot Index is published and I'm proven to be wrong but I won't hold my breath on that one.

cakeorwine · 16/05/2022 00:03

Wrong, there was a crowdfund to buy the books which she then profttied from on each sale

How do you know she profitted?

[[https://www.thebookseller.com/news/monroe-sends-over-6000-copies-new-book-food-banks-after-crowdfunder-1013181[[

£30,000 - 6000 books. Doesn't seem like much of a profit to me.
Considering they have to get out to a lot of food banks

Unless there are other crowdfunders?

cakeorwine · 16/05/2022 00:06

Newham Books is also helping to supply the books to the food banks for less than their RRP, while Heinz has donated 10,000 cans.
Monroe said: “Fundraising for these books and tin cans to foodbanks is about giving people hope, dignity, and decent meals in the most dire of situations. To give people choices, and agency, and good food, and resources.
“The response and generosity to this initiative has been overwhelming and I want to thank the hundreds of people who have supported me in delivering this to the people who need it most. Working with The Trussell Trust ensures that these books will make a real difference and we really hope that this activity once again highlights an issue we all need to be paying attention to.”

Everything I have read about her and her actions seem to me to be someone who is trying to help people.

I judge people by their actions.

MaryAndHerNet · 16/05/2022 00:08

cakeorwine · 16/05/2022 00:03

Wrong, there was a crowdfund to buy the books which she then profttied from on each sale

How do you know she profitted?

[[https://www.thebookseller.com/news/monroe-sends-over-6000-copies-new-book-food-banks-after-crowdfunder-1013181[[

£30,000 - 6000 books. Doesn't seem like much of a profit to me.
Considering they have to get out to a lot of food banks

Unless there are other crowdfunders?

You think a publisher would sell 6000 books at a loss?... Really?..

I mean there's doing something good and there's risking bankruptcy.

Or do you think Jack herself knocks up the books on a 1996 Bubblejet printer in her spare room whilst she's slow cooking a gammon joint she rescued from a puddle in a slow cooker she found in a Skip?

me4real · 16/05/2022 00:11

It's litigious and daft for her too claim it's defamation. I think Gwneth Paltrow is conning gullible/vulnerable people with Goop. That's just my opinion, I'm not defaming her or accusing her of a crime or anything.

Dauncets · 16/05/2022 00:14

Gawd, that "books to food banks" number is exactly the same as a woman I used to work with who was an "agent" for usborne or scholastic or something. She was always trying to flog the books in the staff room and once a year she held a "sponsored read" which involved people sponsoring her nephew to read a book with all the sponsorship money going to buying books - from her, of course - to "give" to a nearby school. Grift grift grifty McGrift.

MaryAndHerNet · 16/05/2022 00:16

@cakeorwine

Yes there were other funding projects.
Like this one:

www.kickstarter.com/projects/780456006/cooking-on-a-bootstrap-by-jack-monroe/comments

£68k raised from people's.
Please do read the comments and enjoy them. Then Google it a little.

Then google some more.
Unless you're really blind or just.dont want to see it, you'll discover that stuff just doesn't add up in the world of the Hardest grafting , most working class, hero Chef Of The People...

sst1234 · 16/05/2022 00:24

This thread has been enlightening. Always knew that this horrible woman was a self serving publicist. But her antics explained on this thread have well and truly exposed her. Shameful.

YouWhatLove · 16/05/2022 00:25

She’s done some great work with raising awareness of food poverty. She’s also someone who constantly lies. They’re both as bad as each other.