Amber Heard - but wait hear me out!! Watch this

[MrsMingech]

So I was on the fence with these two, and I read the threads but didn't follow them and when I searched them I only found and old one.

My search efforts suck, clearly.

Theres many recordings, albeit put together by a clear DP Pom Pom shaker. But it can't be denied (unless it's suggested it's another woman).

Its so bullying, awful
and nasty, I couldn't list to it all.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=e5SaPZpFhcg

if there's a more relevant thread that I suspect I've have missed please link and I will ask for this to be deleted. I swear I did search first.

I know exactly what kind of dig it is.

No, you want to try and twist their words to play the poor women card. So determined to find things that aren't there.

I've not really been following the case as I thought it would be pretty impossible to separate the 2 of them in a "who has shown the worst behaviour" competition. And that no-one knows what's really gone on etc etc etc. I was a JD fan in my youth but he's been a bit of a mumbling embarrassment the last few years, brain addled by the drugs. So I had no interest in it all, had not taken any "sides", and have been shocked at the outpouring of support for JD from the start on social media before any evidence had even been hurt.

But since the verdict I've wondered how they came to the conclusion they did, so I did out of curiosity listen to over half this audio link. Well.....all I can say is that it's clear what the dynamics of the relationship were just from listening to the way they navigate a disagreement. In the link he comes over as trying to have a calm and rational conversation, makes some really good points in a calm way and she's frankly quite terrifying in parts the way she will explode literally mid sentence. It felt like it was going round in circles, she seems to enjoy having arguments and she clearly likes the sound of her own voice and thinks only her way is right.

Trying to blame him for making her feel insecure because she "splits" every time they have a fight. Even when he calmly states he leaves because it always escalates to her throwing things, she didn't once apologise or appear contrite or say "that was so wrong of me, there was no excuse, I'll seek help for my violent temper" etc. Instead she just more or less accused him of not allowing her to show her upset or have a different opinion from him. Classic abuser behaviour.

It's like she just doesn't know how to work things out in an adult manner. He tries to explain to her here, like when she was upset at him spending too much time with Travis whoever he is, longer than had been agreed. He was saying "all you had to do was explain that me being out with him longer than you thought I'd be made you feel insecure/fucked or whatever and we'd discuss it and work it out".

Her behaviour really made me feel uncomfortable, there's clearly something not right with the way she thinks. As for her giving him a Xanax saying he needed it when he was being way more calm than she was......it's unbelievable.

I agree with you - it’s a dig at people who think women should be believed. You’re right.

Yes. Which isn't unfair.

It is not the case that women should automatically be believed. I'm sorry, but it's not.

It results in women keeping quiet about abuse. That’s not the attitude we should perpetuate.

Just stop. Go and be antagonistic and play the fool somewhere else. Your fabrications here and intentional pretend misinterpretations aren't worth my time.

More than half your posts are just antagonistic and attacking people. Obviously you get something from that but I am not responding to you again. Your efforts to try and make my post into something it isn't as some kind of game is just not for me.

To look at it from the other side, men shouldn't be put off coming forward about abuse either and should be taken seriously.

No, it results in manipulative liars not attempting it.

It wouldn't stop real victims coming forward.

Thats exactly what you meant and you can’t even argue against it. We shouldn’t believe women, is your message. The other poster agrees with you and still interpreted it the same way I did.

If Johnny Depp punches his next partner square in the face, do you think she’ll come forward about it?

Sorry @Midlifemusings I misread the names because of the quoting! Will get it deleted

Given that hes never hit any other woman, I'd think it unlikely, but yes.

Eh, if you're referring to me, I am 1 hundred percent behind the PP. We shouldn't believe someone JUST BECAUSE they are a woman - please stop misinterpreting the PP (and don't attempt to pretend that I in any way agree with you, because I don't).

You think someone else would look at this trial and think they’d say anything against him? Of course they wouldn’t.

Well, if that's the case, that's Amber's fault. Another person she's ruined along with all the others.

I know. I think you’re getting confused with the names - Midlife is denying they meant that.

This case has been awful for the appalling reporting and social media commentary around this case. It's one case. Men can be victims of abuse too. Men can lie. Women can lie. Women can tell the truth and be put off reporting because they won't be believed. Trying to extrapolate out of one case principles that apply across the board is a mistake for which the media should not be forgiven.

On these facts, just on this case, for me this was a killer piece of evidence as to probability who was telling the truth. This was audio recorded BY HER after she had gone to court and got the restraining order barring HIM from coming within 100 yards or whatever of her on the basis he assaulted her. She goes round to his hotel room that night and this is what their conversation was.

No, Saint Jack Sparrow’s fault too. He was abusive. He let this happen. He let the media chase her too. He sent texts to his pal about raping her corpse. Not innocent.

I did confuse the post earlier but not this one.

Midlife isnt denying they said that. midlife is denying she said we shouldn't believe women, because she didn't. she said we shouldn't believe someone JUST BECAUSE they are a woman, which I fully agree with.

That poster just wants to argue and antagonize. I am not responding to them anymore. #BelieveAllWomen was a terrible choice of hastags given it includes lies, dishonesty, false allegations, guilty before innocent, guilty based on an allegation, guilty by public opinion, men aren't victims etc

Johnny wanted to keep it out the public eye. He sued for defamation because he had no choice. If future victims can't come forward becuse of Amber's lies, that's on her. the texts should never have been admitted as evidence.

I assume you're OK with Amber lying about rape? Have you thought about the impact that will have on women?

I know, Mercy is denying they meant that. I agree with you.

I agree with you.