Is Starmer seriously going to resign???

[Swayingpalmtrees]

I have been waiting for a thread to come up about this, but I can't see one to date. I can't believe Keir Starmer has now said he will resign (and Angela Rayner as well) Potentially leaving the Labour party with no leader at all!

Looking at the 'evidence' that is well known and has been published, it appears the Indian takeaway was pre ordered (due to its size) and pre planned according to the staff at the Indian and the leaked memo, it did include quite a number of people and bottles of beer etc and drinking. It was late into the night, so not work related, and no one is suggesting anyone continued to work afterwards as it was so late. I don't see how this is any different to the No10 arrangements! So how on earth will they avoid a fine??

Sir Keir's speech was so wobbly I actually thought he was resigning there and then, and although I appreciate the sentiments of integrity and honour, where on earth does that leave the LP with under two years to the election or less?

Who would replace him? Do we have any thoughts on a plan of any kind?

I am kind of aghast, we are in the middle of a European war, on the cusp of potentially WW3, I am not sure this is a responsible action given the seriousness of our predicament with Russia whom are threatening us on a weekly basis with nuclear war. At the very very least, we need a firm hand on the tiller, so to speak, we do not have time to be squabbling over beer and cheese.
AIBU?

That's not the point. The pictures from No 10 were just the same. Weren't teachers confined to classrooms at lunch time at that time. The whole thing was a bloody farce and those in power were laughing at us

Dh is a teacher and I can confirm that when schools re-opened in March 2021 he ate in either the refectory or the staff room with his colleagues

Derxa - the pictures weren't the same.

They were pictures of a jolly.

It wasn't a work meeting.

One of the jollies included the interior decorator.

I think Social Distancing requirements were still in place in workplaces at the time. Correct me if I'm wrong.

And yet, in my line of work, we continued to have drinks and food as a team when working late into the night (as appears to have been the case with Starmer and co.).

What we did not do was host or attend illegal social gatherings, of the sort that the government were partaking in.

I'm saying that none of them seemed that worried about catching or spreading CV. It was all a farce and the people who suffered most were the elderly and young people

The OP is just on the wind up evidently. Complete with name changing. She can just resume normal posting when she's got enough kicks from the drivel she's posted here today.

Weren't teachers confined to classrooms at lunch time at that time.

We could work/eat in our department office with no masks, socially distanced, with restricted numbers.

I believe so. My DH's office is only starting to go in. There are all sorts of rules about desk spacing to this day.

I'm saying that none of them seemed that worried about catching or spreading CV.

And you got that from the fact they ate a curry?

It was possible to be worried about catching or spreading covid and still have to get on with your job.

I'm saying that none of them seemed that worried about catching or spreading CV.

Maybe they did that testing malarky beforehand ?

They weren’t scared because it’s not scary

It is for some.

I couldn't care less about eating curries or drinking beer. I care about the damage done to people while people in authority couldn't have cared less.

while people in authority couldn't have cared less.

Starmer said that he and his wife couldn't look after his father in law after his mother in law unexpectedly passed away and that they agonised over that decision.

I don't think that comes across as someone who couldn't care less about the impact of covid regulations.

Isn't it terrible just how low politics has sunk and how far Johnson and co have dragged the country. The fact posters seem astonished that a politician would resign if found to have broken the law says an awful lot about the country we have turned into. Of course politicians should resign if they break the law and especially if they lie about it. If they refuse to resign their party should throw them out. In the past, before the public were happy to vote into the highest office in the land a proven liar, the question about resigning over law breaking wouldn't even have come up because the answer would have been so obvious. Shame on us all.

OP announced return from work at 18.31 but must have missed your post @Luculentus. Sure she would have responded to each point if she had.

I would be glad to see him go. It would be the best thing for Labour. I find him lacking. Don't get me wrong i will vote Labour regardless but 😕

That’s funny because I know lots.

My previous jobs include Recruitment jobs where beers were opened at our desks at about 4 on a Friday and one evening a week where everyone stayed til 10 to call candidates and food was ordered in.

In my current job if we are working up against it till the early hours or even till 8 or 9 we will always order food and have drinks on the basis that even if you finish at 8 it could be past 9 before you get home and get food.

The amount of naïve posters who are so sure they are correct in thinking that no one could possibly do this is staggering.

I think distancing and masks in the sort of jobs we are talking about, where people had been doing things in person for the vast majority of the pandemic, at the end of April 2021 is completely unrealistic.

People say this but will there ever a be a Labour leader that people are happy with? Not while the papers try to smear them and their readers absorb it and bash out the same old nonsense online I suppose.

And don’t forget many people, and all vulnerable people, had had a vaccine by then.

You mean people like nurses who have to communicate with people. They're still wearing masks all day every day

Yes, I think some posters who work 9-5 or similar are failing to appreciate that, for many of us, that is not the case (and wasn’t during the pandemic either).

For many of us who do often find ourselves working late into the night at the office, having food and drink (including alcohol) with your colleagues (particularly when working collaboratively) is normal, and continued to be normal for much of (if not all of) the pandemic to date.

They're still wearing masks all day every day

I would assume not when eating.