To think Labour are hypocrites

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Beergate. Turns out the event was planned. To think of all the slating Starmer gave Johnson. 🤔 This site's favourite newspaper, the Dailymail, has released a leaked memo, which might mark Starmer's downfall. If Johnson could survive, can Starmer?

I agree with this.

If you think all politicians are the same, you are thick.

No one is ignoring any of this.

But because we have a lying twat of a PM, character is also an issue in our politicas at the moment.

It's been in the news for months because Johnson denied there were any parties, claimed that all guidelines were followed, allowed Allegra Stratton to be forced out for joking about the parties, claimed he was furious about the parties, appointed Simon Case who went to a party, appointed Sue Grey who took 5/6 weeks to produce a report, backtracked by only publishing a summary of the report, lied to Parliament, refused to correct the record and received 1 FPN so far.

That's why it's in the news.

It's almost like you didn't pay any attention until the Durham Constituency meeting reports.

It's almost like you didn't pay any attention until the Durham Constituency meeting reports

This thread is talking about hypocrisy and the point where I thought Starmer (and Rayner) met that was at police investigation stage

it looks like it was a common enough pov to be put to Starmer in his briefing so I don’t feel too far out

Well with such well reasoned arguments, who can deny it.

CBA to be 'reasoned' with people who are not reasoned themselves.

I think the state of the country is an absolute mess and in part it is because people are so bloody determined not to use their god-given brains. Most people are a lot cleverer than they like to let on. All that 'hahahaha Johnson is so funny' bollocks is what got us here.

Does anyone else think this thread is just heaving with Daily Mail journalists trying to spread their absolute nonsense? Anyone with any iota of sense can see that they way that Keir Starnee and Boris Johnson have handled themselves are at the opposite ends of the scale of truth, decency and integrity! Some of the comments on here beggar belief! Engage brain people!

Johnson and Putin have a lot of similarities - corrupt, self-serving and a total disregard for the truth being three of them. It’s a slippery slope a country is on once it has turned multiple blind eyes to blatant corruption, obfuscation and propaganda, to the point that people will accept obvious lies from their leader, and chant the mantra that everyone does it, they’re all the same. Might as well accept a corrupt dictatorship, then, and get ourselves a fully fledged Putin.

Johnson is t funny. He is the epitome of what is wrong with politics.

He failed at everything else, fell into politics because the opportunity arose. He's neither qualified or experienced to be the PM and yet morons voted for him.

Starmer too, a lawyer. Got into politics as the opportunity arose for him to do so. Saw it as a good career move.

2 people with histories that prove my point.

There is not a single MP out of the 650 MPs that got into politics to help the voters, they all got into politics first and foremost for themselves, for the career opportunities, for the opportunities that it would give their family and friends.
If you can disprove that, do so, it should be very easy if I am as wrong and thick.

Not sure which posters specifically are DM journalists? Name them specifically and I could say

Possibly the Mail, possibly the Conservative party in general, but I agree that I don’t think anyone who isn’t purposefully pushing an agenda could be so blinkered on this.

Tory bots my dear!

Still not forgetting all the other fuck ups of the Tories. Everything our PM touches turns to fuck up. This thread isn't suddenly going to remove it all from my consciousness and it didn't work last week did it?

I think you are talking crap. I have met a lot of politicans. Some are self-serving twats, some are brilliant and hardworking who could earn a lot more doing something else.

I do not need to disprove it - the evidence is there. But there is none so blind as they who will not see. Believe what you want.

Being overly cynical is as much a failing as believing everything - it is just a different pair of blinkers.

Tory bots, journalists..

go for it which posters names

You to start with obviously! You could have tried to be slightly more subtle about it.

Why would you have the inside track on this subject?

Haha how silly some people are.

I think you lack the ability to think or argue on a thread and can only name call

but that is your issue not mine

No. Many politicians go into politics for reasons of public service.

Tony Blair was a top-flight lawyer, who took a pay cut to enter politics. As did Keir Starmer.

My old boss earned a fortune in computing and went into politics from a sense of 'giving something back'. As did my old house-mate from university.

I really don't understand this nihilism. What end does it serve?

If you think politics is crying out for someone committed to improving the lives of people, if you think politicians don't reach your level of personal integrity - go into politics yourself.

You'll soon find yourself surrounded by people who are committed to public and community service.

This nihilistic view of politics is, I think, propaganda, gulped down by people for whom it is a delicious poison - it excuses, perhaps, a kind of laziness, or willed self-exclusion.

I'm glad for you if your life is comfortable enough to not care about politics. But I am sad for you if you have been duped by a narrative that urges you to exclude yourself from participation.

Politics does affect us - most of us, anyway. You owe it to yourself to notice that there are real differences between the offers of Parties and that, yes, politics matters.

Nobody can prove or disprove the subjective intentions of every single MP as to why they got into politics but, even if it were the case that for each and every one of them, it was primarily to advance their own lives, that would not render them all the same.

Most people in most professions are there primarily for their own benefit, that does not render everyone within a profession ‘all the same’.

What do you mean?

pp certain there are bots or journalists on here so I asked who they meant

of course it’s just more Labour I don’t agree with you so you must be a bot or DM journalist

Well said cat.

@MarshaBradyo is not a bot, I think they are just a genuine supporter of the government

I’m a floating voter and have voted for both

I don’t want Starmer to resign but I do think he’s put himself into a corner with this, and on the issue of hypocrisy which is the title of this thread yes he has been hypocritical

but I found partygate ludicrous in many ways and if Starmer gets a fine he should stay

Nope. Why would they?

Yep without a doubt.. right wing press in overdrive because the Sue Hray report cannot be sat in for much longer.