To think Labour are hypocrites

[Labscollie]

Beergate. Turns out the event was planned. To think of all the slating Starmer gave Johnson. 🤔 This site's favourite newspaper, the Dailymail, has released a leaked memo, which might mark Starmer's downfall. If Johnson could survive, can Starmer?

It's not about right or left politics for me thanks @Labscollie it's about having the miscreants in No 10 attempting to seize the moral high ground. Its offensive to many, laudable only to his cultists.

Totally different circumstances, also Keir Starmer is not PM, Boris Johnson is. As a country we deserve a better PM.

Lovable? 😮

So was Mr Blobby. I wouldn't want him as PM either although he'd doubtless operate with a bit more moral fibre.

Did Labour not give their support for continued lockdowns?

I can see why you've changed your name. It gives you plenty of platform space for irony and infantile rantings.

Tsk. Personal attacks? I thought that was beyond the pale on MN. Have a cup,of tea.

That's out of order - comparing poor Mr Blobby to Boris, he'd be less of an embarrassment as PM for sure. 😁

Where’s the personal attack? I haven’t seen one

Is this just about lockdowns for you OP?

Same for my sister and BIL (I'm retired).

They really are all as bad as each other. During the first lockdown our (Labour) mayor was at a large house party where they ordered takeaway food, and he was the one who answered the door to the delivery driver! They really do think they're speshul, don't they?

“Labour are hypocrites”. What does that even mean? Same idiocy as: Spaniards are dull, historians are sexy, bus drivers are pedantic, pizza-lovers are cowardly, Mancunians are inquisitive. Pure gibberish. Or are you talking about one particular Labour member?

It is all a game. The only way to stop the game is to refrain from voting altogether. However, our electoral system throws up a whole, new srt of problems if this is not done strategically en masse. This also makes it a game. There is no obvious path out.
Starmer has not really managed to win over the masses. It won't be a great loss. It is intriguing to see whom would replace him (I don't rate Rachel Reeves or Wes) but some of the idiotic policies are guaranteed to stay as far as I can see.

Sorry - typos!!

Did the LibDems have enough bodies to have breached the relevant Regulations? Were they were the party who had enough MPs who had not already been leader to have a credible leadership contest? Perhaps I'm thinking of another party?

@Sirius3030 to be fair, pizza lovers are to a person notoriously cowardly. The glorious revolution was organised out of a pub. How many riots and revolutions have been run from Pizza Express?

If rules were meant for the little people then what was the cut off. I suspect Keir and Boris are both reasonably tall. Was Sturgeon exempt?

Irrelevant to my mind, they were not the ruling party making the rules. The point is that the one in charge, the one making the rules, thought they did not apply to him, on many occasions. Then the leader lied about this fact on multiple occasions. Anyway, that is my opinion you are entitled to yours.

I don't get this argument. The Labour Party endorsed the government's rules. How, then, can they be protected from breaking those rules, just because they are not the governing party?

No, it isn't, thinking about it. Many of us grapple with our principles, yet politicians seem to find lying, deceit and manipulation comes easily.

I did not say that. But to my mind it is just nowhere near as important as the rule maker and leader of the country repeatedly breaking the law. I don't need you to understand my argument, it is just my opinion like I said.

Quite. Then again, I'm scratching my head, over politics, during 2020, more than I've done for a long time. What an absolute rabble, the lot of them are.

I think the circumstances are different - the rules I think were different in different parts of the country at that time. There is also a difference between the frequent alleged parties at Downing Street compared to a one off. We don't know the circumstances of the Durham activities - TBH I was fed but with the whole party gate around Downing Street and felt that it was time to move on. I do have an uneasy feeling that Durham constabulary have been pushed into investigating this and I am not convinced this is the way the police should operate

Talking of gibberish.. All of those you've mentioned are noted in the plural, are you saying a Labour shadow cabinet is singular? In fact, I haven't the foggiest what you're saying, except to use nebulous analogies.

@twelly steady one. The police should investigate without fear or favour.

Unless it's clearly an historic crime that happened in the past then they should just leave it as no one would realistically expect them to investigate crimes that had already happened. If forced by captain hindsights and scallywags to investigate then they should take their time and carefully coordinate announcements around Civil Servant investigation reports and elections and wars and things in the national interest.