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Part 2 -AIBU to wonder why so many people assume Johnny Depp is the good guy and Amber Heard is the villain

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StormzyinaTCup · 30/04/2022 19:14

Just thought I would start a follow on thread for anyone interested in the trial. I have kept it in AIBU so that it is easier for previous posters from Part 1 to find.
We are halfway through and have heard JD's testimony so next week we will hear from AH.

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TheKeatingFive · 07/05/2022 18:58

obviously not but can we remember this was said in confidence to a friend and not to the daughter about her mother

he walked into this court case where there was good chance it would be made public. He made that choice,

ParisNoir · 07/05/2022 18:59

Inkanta · 07/05/2022 18:51

If you think that 'withering cunt' is a descriptor any daughter should hear their mother called by their father

Exactly! Hard to believe VP is cool with that kind of name calling. Basically it's not clever or respectful.

I agree and I wonder how JD would feel if a boyfriend of his daughter was laughing to his mates about burning her and fcking her burnt corpse. I wonder if he'd be having a good old laugh about that if his daughter was the topic of those texts. My guess is, it wouldnt be so hilarious then,

JustAnotherPoster00 · 07/05/2022 19:04

The words he texted to a friend whilst being disgusting is no indication that he inflicted IPV on AH, using words like 'I didnt punch you I was hitting you' is an indication that AH inflicted IPV on JD

TheKeatingFive · 07/05/2022 19:10

The words he texted to a friend whilst being disgusting is no indication that he inflicted IPV on AH

No ones saying they do, in isolation.

Howeve they are very telling about his attitude towards women, in this case one who there is no insinuation she mistreated him.

TheKeatingFive · 07/05/2022 19:14

using words like 'I didnt punch you I was hitting you' is an indication that AH inflicted IPV on JD

that isn't being investigated in this court case.

Newbeginnings2 · 07/05/2022 19:15

He made that choice to clear his name against much worse things his children are hearing he has allegedly done

TheKeatingFive · 07/05/2022 19:17

He made that choice to clear his name against much worse things his children are hearing he has allegedly done

according to this thread, she was supportive of him, so wouldnt have believed that to begin with.

but he made his choice and now his daughter know he refers to her mother as a 'withering cunt'

Trixiefirecracker · 07/05/2022 19:30

I believe JD called VP a ‘withering cunt’ in a text message and she retorted with something equally vulgar. Seems a strange way to communicate but wasn’t exactly one sided.

Boulshired · 07/05/2022 19:30

all he has said and done does not equal the accusations of what happened in Australia, do people believe that all that happened and only left 3 marks oh her arms visible or the admissions that amber hit him. The black eyes on James corden even though a stylist states no physical injuries. The nurses, the police officers the list goes on. It was clearly a toxic relationship but this is another level

Trixiefirecracker · 07/05/2022 19:32

TheKeatingFive · 07/05/2022 19:14

using words like 'I didnt punch you I was hitting you' is an indication that AH inflicted IPV on JD

that isn't being investigated in this court case.

Aside from also shitting in his bed.😳

Inkanta · 07/05/2022 19:32

but he made his choice and now his daughter know he refers to her mother as a 'withering cunt

Yes. Not not nice!'

Newbeginnings2 · 07/05/2022 19:35

He made his choice? Wasn’t much of a choice when someone is accusing you and half the world is believing you are this vile abusive monster, not to mention his career and the effect the allegations have had on his kids, even if they know it’s untrue

TheKeatingFive · 07/05/2022 19:36

He made his choice? Wasn’t much of a choice when someone is accusing you and half the world is believing you are this vile abusive monster, not to mention his career and the effect the allegations have had on his kids, even if they know it’s untrue

Well if he hadn't said disgusting things about their mother, it wouldn't have been an issue, would it?

Newbeginnings2 · 07/05/2022 19:48

When someone is gutting your life, all you things said in confidence to friends, looking for the worse things you’ve ever done something bad was bound to come out, like I said I by no means think he’s perfect but I do think he deserves to be heard and what I’m hearing AH looks like the perpetrator of any abusive and referring to it as his choice to put his life on display for the world when he’s always been private is unsympathetic, he’s been subject to the worse allegations possible, to me that gives him no choice but to respond

TheKeatingFive · 07/05/2022 19:53

When someone is gutting your life, all you things said in confidence to friends, looking for the worse things you’ve ever done something bad was bound to come out

And those things say something about him. I've never come across anyone referring to their ex as anything like a 'withering cunt' and I've seen many partnerships dissolve among my close friends.

Midlifemusings · 07/05/2022 20:03

Here is Amber's make-up artist's deposition

www.italianfansofdepp.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Samantha-McMillen-Full-Declaration.pdf

Midlifemusings · 07/05/2022 20:08

TheKeatingFive · 07/05/2022 19:53

When someone is gutting your life, all you things said in confidence to friends, looking for the worse things you’ve ever done something bad was bound to come out

And those things say something about him. I've never come across anyone referring to their ex as anything like a 'withering cunt' and I've seen many partnerships dissolve among my close friends.

You have posted about the two texts at least 100 times. We get it. To you these are the most vile words you have ever heard and to you he is an evil man who says the most vile things about people.

Why not contribute a new thought to the discussion instead of reposting the same thought 100s of times.

TheKeatingFive · 07/05/2022 20:11

Why not contribute a new thought to the discussion instead of reposting the same thought 100s of times.

I totally get that you don't like my posting and want to shut me down. However unless I'm breaking guidelines I can pist what I like. I'm sure you won't need reminding of that again.

Inkanta · 07/05/2022 20:11

And those things say something about him. I've never come across anyone referring to their ex as anything like a 'withering cunt' and I've seen many partnerships dissolve among my close friends

Neither have I. It's very derogatory, devaluing and hurtful and does say a lot about JD and his attitude to women and the mother of his children.

TheKeatingFive · 07/05/2022 20:11

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TheKeatingFive · 07/05/2022 20:12

Neither have I. It's very derogatory, devaluing and hurtful and does say a lot about JD and his attitude to women and the mother of his children.

Exactly, which has nothing to do with Heard and everything to do with him.

ENoeuf · 07/05/2022 20:14

Inkanta · 07/05/2022 20:11

And those things say something about him. I've never come across anyone referring to their ex as anything like a 'withering cunt' and I've seen many partnerships dissolve among my close friends

Neither have I. It's very derogatory, devaluing and hurtful and does say a lot about JD and his attitude to women and the mother of his children.

Thing is, as a one off you’d be like ‘ok gross, whatever’ but it’s just part of his constant reducing women to their sexual organs - can’t remember exactly but something like jizz guzzling, whores, cunts etc. It just speaks to a man who thinks very little of women.

TheKeatingFive · 07/05/2022 20:15

Thing is, as a one off you’d be like ‘ok gross, whatever’ but it’s just part of his constant reducing women to their sexual organs

exactly

Newbeginnings2 · 07/05/2022 20:15

TheKeatingFive agree to disagree on the language used, doesn’t change my opinion on case after hearing both sides to date

midlifemusings more evidence from people who I doubt would perjurer themselves for this case, it’s sad that he needs so much evidence when her case seems to be just her word and people take that

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