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Grrrrr Prince Harry ...

337 replies

FlipHesAnnoying · 27/04/2022 15:59

When will he stop criticising the UK (fair enough you left us (thanks!), but stop with the 'oh the USA is great and UK is crap etc...' It's annoying)

And .... Remember Harry - we are NOT ALL LOADED!!! Where are we supposed to get the money for all this therapy you think we should have? The NHS is at breaking point (have you noticed? What r you doing to help?) And we can't all afford private therapy Harry ... especially not 4 years worth!! 'my therapist spoke to your therapist..' is not a reality for most of us struggling to afford heating.

Out of touch much? Yes

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mathanxiety · 30/04/2022 01:22

Harry is recommending therapy because he's a shill for that American company he's a CHIMPO for. That's why he's saying America's approach to mental health is so much better in the US than in the UK because he's trying to drive business and increase his investment. He's all about the money.

I'm pretty sure someone upthread remarked that William had urged Harry to get therapy many years ago. Also pretty sure he's been doing therapy for several years and singing its praises, long before his sponsorship.

mathanxiety · 30/04/2022 01:25

Are you sure about that bit? I can't quite see that this would be an acceptable part of any syllabus, and what's the point anyway when he's otherwise surrounded by sycophants who'll tell him he's an intellectual?

I think you've answered your own question there.

I actually highly doubt it was intended to show him he was pretty mediocre in the brain department, but if he had a modicum of humility and self awareness he might have noticed where he stood in the pecking order of the various educational institutions he attended.

mathanxiety · 30/04/2022 01:50

Part of the reason there are so many homeless people in LA is that the climate is more attractive than in many other cities. Also, many of the homeless have active addiction problems or are resistant to available mental health services (often the nature of certain conditions means that help is refused). Hawaii is another fine weather state where homelessness became a problem until it started buying homeless people one way tickets back to the mainland.

There are homeless people everywhere, sadly, and with ever increasing prices and a deepening housing crisis, the UK is not immune.

MyCatIsAJerk · 30/04/2022 04:19

@FlipHesAnnoying

Wow.

You must have a very guilty conscience.

You spent a ^lot of words* on something I wrote to people in general.

oops

Billandben444 · 30/04/2022 06:44

I really hoped he'd stay in Canada and just build a life quietly..

Yes, I think that would have suited him much better but not M.

Mrsjayy · 30/04/2022 08:03

Didn't he want the Canadian government to subsidise them and Government refused that's why they moved to the US ?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 30/04/2022 09:50

if he had a modicum of humility and self awareness he might have noticed where he stood in the pecking order of the various educational institutions he attended

Yes, IF ... as in if only!!

Soffit · 30/04/2022 10:01

Harry always knew that he was the spare. He was trained up since birth in that role. He absolutely did not have a problem with it until Meghan turned up with her giant ego and complete unawareness of British values and institutions. Her solution to attaining first-among-equal importance was to brashly call for a reform of an institution she never valued or understood. As the master manipulator, you now have Harry pushed to the forefront in every interview like a ventriloquist's puppet parroting her dumb opinions.

Harry was definitely not like that before she came along. He was sensitive and friendly by every personal account. He is no longer a person in his own right but a PR stunt which gets wheeled out when the price/publicity is right. He dutifully laps up all the blame. He is not smart, it will take a while for him to understand that he is being played to further her ambitions. When he does cut ties sufficiently, his real friends will always be there to support him. Not right now though while he is being led by the nose while insisting that he's doing great.

mathanxiety · 01/05/2022 05:26

Yes, I think that would have suited him much better but not M.

Why not?

Toronto was her home for many years after all.

mathanxiety · 01/05/2022 05:41

Harry always knew that he was the spare. He was trained up since birth in that role.

LOL. You might even say He was never a person in his own right but a PR stunt which got wheeled out when the price/publicity is right.

Billandben444 · 01/05/2022 06:46

Yes, I think that would have suited him much better but not M.

Why not?

Toronto was her home for many years after all.

Because she craved celebrity status and, when it wasn't available in the UK as a member of the RF, the USA and LA beckoned. Canada - been there, done it, not cracked stardom.

ancientgran · 01/05/2022 07:42

mathanxiety · 28/04/2022 23:21

I suggest you look up Geelong Grammar. It's Australia's answer to Eton.

It's clear that Charles was never cut out for academic glory, and since his life was never going to require anything but dogged perseverance in a mind-numbing formal role and the ability to shake hands with multitudes of people, there was actually no need to bother hitting the books too hard.

His education was designed to remind him that -
1 - the UK is made up of different cultures,
2 - the Commonwealth consists of different cultures, and
3 - there are many people out there who are more intelligent than he is. This is the only part of his education that could be construed as useful.

It doesn't matter how great the school is it was disruptive.

You are very patronising, I know what his education was designed to do but that doesn't change the fact that his sixth form studies were disrupted. I don't know why you can't accept something that is so blindingly obvious. The syllabus would have been different, he had to get used to new teachers, make new friends.

Have a look at the education threads on here about people moving with jobs when children are mid GCSEs or A levels and people always get advised not to move the child if it can possibly be avoided.

Of course other parts of his education were useful, what a ridiculous thing to say. Do you think it mattered that he learned to read and write, do maths, learn some history. He is actually a person not just a king in waiting.

You really are clutching at some rather flimsy straws.

ancientgran · 01/05/2022 07:48

Tezza1 · 29/04/2022 00:58

@ancientgran Off topic, but the variations in effectiveness of healthcare systems around the world has been interesting me for awhile.

I'm Australian. I have an inflammatory illness, and subscribe to an inflammatory disease site with a discussion forum. I take a life changing medicine which costs me approximately AU$40 per month. If I was on a pension/low income it would cost me $6.80, I think. Someone in the US on the forum questioned the lack of checks and balances on the efficacy of the same medicine which costs him $16,000 American every four months.

As I said, the medicine is life changing, but I doubt if I'd be taking it if it cost me that much.

Shocking isn't it. I have family in Australia and I've heard good things about it's healthcare system, I've never heard anything good about America's, well unless you are rich and quite happy for the poor to suffer.

I wonder what the Australian healthcare system pays for the drug? I know deals get done, I know someone who has started on one of the new wonder drugs for cystic fibrosis which were horrendously expensive, families were bankrupting themselves to get it for their kids but the NHS has somehow managed to a. find the money and b. negotiate a better price. Apparently it is quite a game changer.

newnamethanks · 01/05/2022 07:58

Anyone old enough to recall newspaper pictures of Anne and Charles when returning home for school holidays can't have failed to notice how depressed they were. I'm younger than them but I used to feel sorry for them, Charles more than Anne as even then she seemed more resilient. Totally unsurprised by how his life turned out.

mathanxiety · 02/05/2022 00:08

He is actually a person not just a king in waiting.

The king in waiting and head of the Commonwealth bits were the parts his parents sought to cultivate when they sent him to Australia and to Wales.

A level grades were firmly secondary to the enterprise of educating Charles for his future roles.

mathanxiety · 02/05/2022 00:09

I've never heard anything good about America's, well unless you are rich and quite happy for the poor to suffer.

You've clearly heard only what you want to hear.

mathanxiety · 02/05/2022 00:14

Because she craved celebrity status and, when it wasn't available in the UK as a member of the RF, the USA and LA beckoned. Canada - been there, done it, not cracked stardom.

The USA and LA are where she came from originally, if you recall, and where she could easily have returned had she wished to work in either TV or movies, and she had a great gig going in Toronto, close friendships with movers and shakers.

Looking down on the US is one thing, and what you come to expect on MN, but scoffing at Canada is really reaching. The idea that the RF offered little Cinderella a chance to finally go to the ball is laughable.

Billandben444 · 02/05/2022 07:00

Looking down on the US is one thing, and what you come to expect on MN, but scoffing at Canada is really reaching

I apologise if it sounds as though I was dismissing Canada - I really wasn't and it sounds a beautiful place to visit and live.

ancientgran · 02/05/2022 10:28

mathanxiety · 02/05/2022 00:09

I've never heard anything good about America's, well unless you are rich and quite happy for the poor to suffer.

You've clearly heard only what you want to hear.

Sounds like an interesting documentary on Smithsonian channel tonight. It is Oprah Winfrey on how the health care system in the US is failing black people. Maybe Harry should ask Meghan about it.

ancientgran · 02/05/2022 10:29

mathanxiety · 02/05/2022 00:08

He is actually a person not just a king in waiting.

The king in waiting and head of the Commonwealth bits were the parts his parents sought to cultivate when they sent him to Australia and to Wales.

A level grades were firmly secondary to the enterprise of educating Charles for his future roles.

So you agree his A levels weren't a priority and his studies were disrupted.

mathanxiety · 02/05/2022 17:19

I am suggesting that his A levels were written off long before he embarked on them.

This is in response to the claim he could have done better if he hadn't been shipped off to Oz.

ancientgran · 02/05/2022 17:26

mathanxiety · 02/05/2022 17:19

I am suggesting that his A levels were written off long before he embarked on them.

This is in response to the claim he could have done better if he hadn't been shipped off to Oz.

Well shipping him off to another school, in another country, on another continent, with different teachers, that almost certainly had a different syllabus won't have helped will it? He might not have done brilliantly anyway but that doesn't mean he couldn't have done better.

So funny with another thread running about a doctor moving while son is in year 10 and lots and lots of people saying don't move him and even if they are doing the same exam board topics might be done in a different order. I wonder why people think like that?

eddiemairswife · 02/05/2022 18:04

Well as his job doesn't need A Levels I don't suppose anyone is bothered.

CathyorClaire · 02/05/2022 20:35

He might not have done brilliantly anyway but that doesn't mean he couldn't have done better

All he actually needed to do was get the minimally demanding grades Cambridge required of him.

Unsurprisingly he did.

newnamethanks · 03/05/2022 10:48

'Hmm, Prince Charles, your exam results aren't up to scratch so you are being demoted to Mr Charles. We've got you a job collecting trolleys at Tesco, start Monday, 7am to 4pm. Don't be late. Oh, we need the houses and cars back as well, so we've left a bike by the shed for you to borrow for the first week'. Next please.