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AIBU to want to know the truth about this?

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 25/04/2022 14:39

Noah Donohoe was an intelligent, smart, kind and gentle boy. He was 14 years old, the only child of Fiona Donohoe and her everything.

On 21st June 2020, a bright sunny day and as lockdown had eased, Noah set off on his bike to meet up with his two friends to do some schoolwork together, but never reached his destination. Instead, Noah's body was found 6 days later in a storm-drain, naked, in a part of his home city he did not know.

On the day Noah was found, before Noah was formally identified, the Police did a media release stating that there was ‘No Foul Play’ involved. If the police are so sure that ‘No Foul Play’ was involved and that they will not be found wanting under scrutiny, why are they now trying to stop Noah’s mother and her legal team getting access to four files of information on Noah’s investigation?

The Police have applied for a ‘Public Interest Immunity’ certificate, which, if granted, means they can hide four key files in the investigation. Such a certificate is only used in exceptional circumstances and rarely used in the case of a missing child. This certificate has been brought into play in cases where Police intelligence, informers or paramilitaries are involved.

Noah’s mummy has, from the very start of Noah being missing, believed that the police did not use all their resources in finding Noah. This was confirmed when it emerged they had not paid anyone overtime while investigating his death. They did little, if any, forensics and any suspects that were brought to their attention were dismissed as not relevant.

Noah's mummy believes that someone harmed Noah and that there have been serious and repeated failings in the Police investigation of his death. She will never get to the truth and Justice for Noah if she does not get all the information. These four files are vital to get the truth she desperately needs, to find out what really happened to her precious son.

This is a podcast with Noah's mother. It is a hard watch and so a trigger warning may be needed before watching:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRWsr3giWH8

After watching the podcast and the more I get to know, the more questions and doubts I have, and the more difficult it is to believe the police claim of 'No Foul Play'. Noah's death is being treated as a coroner's investigation and the police are not actively pursuing any person or persons in relation to it. Given the lack of a proper investigation into Noah's disappearance and death by the police and their application to keep their files secret, it is difficult to have any confidence in them. In fact, this has been described as their 'Stephen Lawrence moment'. Add to this that Noah's mother and auntie have received telephone threats, are trolled daily online and posters of Noah have been defaced - his face deliberately cut out of them. My own view is that the files must be released and a new and independent investigation begun.

As a parent, a member of the public and a long-standing Mumsnetter, I want to know the truth about what happened to Noah. Even more importantly, I want his mother Fiona to get the truth she needs to be allowed to grieve properly for her son, for Noah to get the justice he truly deserves, for all other children to be safe in the future and to place transparency and accountability where it should rightly be.

AIBU?

This is an earlier thread about Noah, nearly full and so about to close to new posts, but with useful links to newspaper articles and also to a petition in support of his mother:

www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4525759--THREAD-2-Will-you-spare-five-minutes-to-help-the-lovely-Noah-Donohoe-get-the-justice-he-deserves-and-to-support-his-mummy-Fiona-in-getting-the-truth-about-what-happened-to-her-beloved-son

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 08/05/2022 14:58

This tweet is well over a year old now. With the historic election result, this new First Minister-in-waiting of Northern Ireland needs to stop her words of support and her photo opportunities and act.

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 08/05/2022 15:16

For those on Twitter, every Sunday at 6.11pm there is a Twitter Storm for #NoahDonohoe - please remember to use the correct text when joining in. This week's is:
#JusticeForNoahDonohoe⚖️ #TheNoahDonohoeFoundation💙 #NoahsArmy⚡️ #Week98 #NoToPII💙 #ReleaseThe4Files

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 08/05/2022 23:24

Thank you pp Flowers

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 08/05/2022 23:46

Thinking of Fiona and Niamh 💙

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CatChant · 09/05/2022 09:15

Noah’s mum pleads for support.

This is so wrong.

In a civilised society no one should have to plead for help to find out the truth about how their child died.

CatChant · 09/05/2022 09:18

Can the PSNI really believe its investigation into Noah’s disappearance was even adequate, let alone exhaustive?

CatChant · 09/05/2022 09:21

At best it has come up with a theory of accidental death following an alleged concussion.

CatChant · 09/05/2022 09:23

But it is simply a theory, one the PSNI has not produced sufficient evidence to support .

CatChant · 09/05/2022 09:24

And other, sadly more sinister, theories could fit the known facts.

CatChant · 09/05/2022 09:26

The PSNI has not accounted for the holes in both its pet theory and its investigation.

CatChant · 09/05/2022 09:30

How did Noah come to be in that storm drain? Why was his body relatively unmarked six days after he is supposed to have died? Why were samples of water not taken from the drain to compare with the water found in his lungs?

CatChant · 09/05/2022 09:33

Why did the police not check all the CCTV footage from Noah’s route? Where are his missing clothes? Who were the attackers who set upon another boy from Noah’s school weeks earlier and is there a link to what happened to Noah?

CatChant · 09/05/2022 09:36

These are just some of the questions that should be answered before one can conclude Noah’s disappearance and death have been investigated satisfactorily.

CatChant · 09/05/2022 09:38

Please help Fiona in her search for the truth about what happened to her beloved Noah.

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