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AIBU to want to know the truth about this?

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 25/04/2022 14:39

Noah Donohoe was an intelligent, smart, kind and gentle boy. He was 14 years old, the only child of Fiona Donohoe and her everything.

On 21st June 2020, a bright sunny day and as lockdown had eased, Noah set off on his bike to meet up with his two friends to do some schoolwork together, but never reached his destination. Instead, Noah's body was found 6 days later in a storm-drain, naked, in a part of his home city he did not know.

On the day Noah was found, before Noah was formally identified, the Police did a media release stating that there was ‘No Foul Play’ involved. If the police are so sure that ‘No Foul Play’ was involved and that they will not be found wanting under scrutiny, why are they now trying to stop Noah’s mother and her legal team getting access to four files of information on Noah’s investigation?

The Police have applied for a ‘Public Interest Immunity’ certificate, which, if granted, means they can hide four key files in the investigation. Such a certificate is only used in exceptional circumstances and rarely used in the case of a missing child. This certificate has been brought into play in cases where Police intelligence, informers or paramilitaries are involved.

Noah’s mummy has, from the very start of Noah being missing, believed that the police did not use all their resources in finding Noah. This was confirmed when it emerged they had not paid anyone overtime while investigating his death. They did little, if any, forensics and any suspects that were brought to their attention were dismissed as not relevant.

Noah's mummy believes that someone harmed Noah and that there have been serious and repeated failings in the Police investigation of his death. She will never get to the truth and Justice for Noah if she does not get all the information. These four files are vital to get the truth she desperately needs, to find out what really happened to her precious son.

This is a podcast with Noah's mother. It is a hard watch and so a trigger warning may be needed before watching:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRWsr3giWH8

After watching the podcast and the more I get to know, the more questions and doubts I have, and the more difficult it is to believe the police claim of 'No Foul Play'. Noah's death is being treated as a coroner's investigation and the police are not actively pursuing any person or persons in relation to it. Given the lack of a proper investigation into Noah's disappearance and death by the police and their application to keep their files secret, it is difficult to have any confidence in them. In fact, this has been described as their 'Stephen Lawrence moment'. Add to this that Noah's mother and auntie have received telephone threats, are trolled daily online and posters of Noah have been defaced - his face deliberately cut out of them. My own view is that the files must be released and a new and independent investigation begun.

As a parent, a member of the public and a long-standing Mumsnetter, I want to know the truth about what happened to Noah. Even more importantly, I want his mother Fiona to get the truth she needs to be allowed to grieve properly for her son, for Noah to get the justice he truly deserves, for all other children to be safe in the future and to place transparency and accountability where it should rightly be.

AIBU?

This is an earlier thread about Noah, nearly full and so about to close to new posts, but with useful links to newspaper articles and also to a petition in support of his mother:

www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4525759--THREAD-2-Will-you-spare-five-minutes-to-help-the-lovely-Noah-Donohoe-get-the-justice-he-deserves-and-to-support-his-mummy-Fiona-in-getting-the-truth-about-what-happened-to-her-beloved-son

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Famousinlove · 03/05/2022 21:26

Hi OP,

I've just signed the petition, but like many other I had not heard of this case until seeing your thread.

if you haven't done so already, I would recommend reaching out to Youtubers who cover true crime content. They get millions of views and if you can get someone to cover this story it should help with the petition.

MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 04/05/2022 09:31

Thank you pp. Flowers

Please feel free to share Noah's story with the Youtubers you know 💙

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 04/05/2022 09:33

Sorry, that was to @Famousinlove 💙

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 04/05/2022 09:37

One of Noah's posters in situ. 💙

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 04/05/2022 09:44

I have not heard good things about the coroner involved.

'What's the difference between God and the coroner?
God doesn't think he's the coroner'.

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 04/05/2022 10:05

Bumping till Active...

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 04/05/2022 10:07

Bump...

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 04/05/2022 10:09

Another bump...

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 04/05/2022 10:11

Still not in Active...

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 04/05/2022 10:13

Another bump still needed...

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 04/05/2022 19:35

Noah wanted to be a doctor.

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 04/05/2022 19:37

Fiona's petition on Change has 305,998 signatures so far, with a target of 500k.

If you would like to give your support to this mother by signing or signing and sharing, the link to it is in the OP of this thread here:
www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4525759--THREAD-2-Will-you-spare-five-minutes-to-help-the-lovely-Noah-Donohoe-get-the-justice-he-deserves-and-to-support-his-mummy-Fiona-in-getting-the-truth-about-what-happened-to-her-beloved-son

Please remember to confirm your signature or it won't count.

Thank you 💙

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 04/05/2022 19:39

💙 Bumping till Active.

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 04/05/2022 19:40

💙Bump

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 04/05/2022 19:41

Bump 💙

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PuzzleRocks · 04/05/2022 21:06

MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 04/05/2022 19:37

Fiona's petition on Change has 305,998 signatures so far, with a target of 500k.

If you would like to give your support to this mother by signing or signing and sharing, the link to it is in the OP of this thread here:
www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4525759--THREAD-2-Will-you-spare-five-minutes-to-help-the-lovely-Noah-Donohoe-get-the-justice-he-deserves-and-to-support-his-mummy-Fiona-in-getting-the-truth-about-what-happened-to-her-beloved-son

Please remember to confirm your signature or it won't count.

Thank you 💙

Bumping for Noah x

PuzzleRocks · 04/05/2022 21:07

Bump

PuzzleRocks · 04/05/2022 21:09

Bump for active. Justice for Noah.

MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 04/05/2022 21:44

Thank you pp, I'd been a bit lonely on here. Flowers

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MNettersForNoahAndFiona · 04/05/2022 21:51

Fiona's petition now has over 306k signatures. 💙

Please join us?

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worriedandannoyed · 04/05/2022 21:56

Beautiful boy, such a sad story. Thoughts are with his family

CatChant · 04/05/2022 22:15

Lovely Noah, he would have had a bright future ahead of him whether he kept to his plan of becoming a doctor or ended up choosing another path entirely.

CatChant · 04/05/2022 22:17

He made the world a brighter place.

CatChant · 04/05/2022 22:20

I am sure he would have gone on doing so.

CatChant · 04/05/2022 22:25

He should be sitting his GCSEs and looking forward to the greater independence and freedom of Sixth Form.

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