To ban all links to the Daily Mail on this site

[TheresaLeafy]

And to request that MNHQ do not sell any threads/allow threads to be printed any more in the Daily Mail.

The Angela Rayner article is disgusting, shameful and an insult to every woman. The Daily Mail has no place on this site.

Won’t link the article for obvious reasons. And, please, no one link it either. If you don’t know what it is, then please google it.

Calm yourselves. The Guardian has picked it up, I read it there. Disgusting, obviously, just more classist misogyny against Angela Rayner. The DM isn't fit for chip wrapping.

Also once a thread (like this one) is in the public domain, anyone can read it, link it and report on it with any angle they choose to. That’s what some journalists do. Seems like very lazy journalism to me mind you.

You sound rather naive, OP.

@MNHQ & the Fail have a symbiotic (look it up) relationship. Both are commercial media businesses funded by advertising. Each drives traffic to the other’s site. More traffic = more clicks = more ad revenue = more profit.

Problem is where do you draw line,? Ban the Guardian because it wrongly accused women sexually assaulted in Cologne of lying. BAN the Sun for being the Sun? You could find fault with any part of the media.

The only way to 100% know what an article says is to read it at the source.
If you come across something on twitter, the only way to read the whole article is to read it at source.
This is where people have gone wrong wrt JKR and her views.

YABU. Here is an article published today about an underwear company, run by a transwoman, who is selling underwear designed to compress the penis and testicles of 4 year old boys. This is child abuse. Show me another publication that is willing to highlight the dangers of gender ideology and then we can cut the Daily Mail out of all our lives. Where’s the Guardian on this? The BBC? So called “acceptable” websites? Nowhere, that’s where.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10746809/Transgender-designer-accused-child-abuse-selling-pants-flatten-genitals-boys.html?ito=native_share_article-masthead

You've got a point TeenPlusCat

On the face of it, from what I've read on Twitter, some Tory MPs have made a ludicrous accusation which is misogynist and highly insulting to both AR and BJ, and the MOS have reported it. To my mind that would show the Tory MPs in a bad light, not the Mail.

But there's clearly more to the way it's been reported.

However there will probably be a line by line takedown in a media analysis source, or a more detailed Twitter thread at some point.

I do avoid DM links quite rigorously after their Mick Philpott headline, which I think was so appalling that I try hard to avoid giving them even a single click's worth of money.

Don't be ridiculous and who appointed you as arbitrator of what we can and can't read?

For those unwilling to read the article due to its origins the fear is that compressing and ergo raising the temperature of a boys penis and testicles , when they are outside and /below the body fir a reason to ensure a slightly cooler temperature , could in fact lead to infertility.

I think that is an important factor ro consider before the paper is labelled as spreading bigotry.

This.

Noone likes a smug patronising arse.

NOONE has defended the comments about AR.

oh well done, OP, are you the writer of the article? now you have a load more clicks. Excellent work.

Clearly a lot of you think this type of writing is acceptable.
<sighs>

Bollocks. There is a lot of writing wiich is unacceptable. The way to combat it isn't to start banning things. The way to combat it is to refute the claims, and make good compelling counter arguments.

Don't be ridiculous

We need to know what's out there and anyway, this is a public site so your idea is unworkable

I heard about by listening to BBC's Broadcasting House this morning, so not check mate at all, actually.

Awfully naive. How do you think this site makes it's money? Why do you think sensational threads take ages to be deleted? This is a business, it fully benefits from the endless publicity.

The DM is doing far more to highlight many feminists concerns ove self ID than any other paper

at times the DM is needed like it or not they have helped the agenda move away from just being what many viewed as spats of social media

You can't know properly what an article says without reading it in full yourself.
If you hear a summary from someone else you are seeing it through their interpretation.
I haven't read the article so have no view on it.

I think you should look up the Streisand effect, OP.

Oh we are being treated to a patronising sigh along with the completely inaccurate Clearly a lot of you think this type of writing is acceptable - is reading comprehension beyond your capabilities @TheresaLeafy ?

I loathe the DM and wish it didn't exist. Banning it is not the answer, and never will be. Don't like it? Don't read it. Re this article, it sounds pretty typical of the Fail and any MP making remarks like that about any other MP needs to be shot down in flames. All that being said the media as a whole is riven with scumbags who put their scummy little heads above the parapet far too often and are rarely held to account. The Guardian editorial a few years ago about David Cameron's son was a particularly rancid example.

OK, boycott rather than ban.

I have a very open mind which is why this misogyny has no place in MSM.

I LOVE MN!!! This is yet another thing I have learned that us useful, also learned Godwins Law and Peter Principle from you wonderful harpies 😚

Yes the article is disgusting but ban links to a publication you don't like? I think you need to get over yourself.

Perhaps a visit to China or North Korea would help you appreciate the value of free speech.

It's fine to be outraged by people saying things you don't like but it's incredibly naïve and rather arrogant to think that if you support censorship there will not be a time when someone wants to silence your voice.

If you don't like the DM, don't click on links and don't buy it. Leave everyone else to decide for themselves what they find offensive.

The Guardian article on the Cologne sex attacks.

The Guardian article full of lies about the Wi Spa indecent exposure case.

The Guardian articles full of misinformation about males in women’s prisons and sport.

The Guardian articles full of misinformation about puberty blockers for children.

The Guardian letting Owen Jones write for them.

The recent Guardian article by Zoe Williams which was full of legal errors about the Equality Act and GRA that had to be corrected, which she denied on Twitter.

All awful, misogynistic, and damaging and helping cover up an ongoing medical scandal.

But I don’t want the Guardian banned from MN, because there are articles by people like Sean Ingle who does actually understand the implications of males in women’s sport.

I could repeat the same about the BBC. Nameless articles that print lies and misinformation. Then brilliant articles like the one on lesbians being coerced, and Hannah Barnes and Deborah Cohen doing sterling work to expose gender treatments for children, and Stephen Nolan exposing his own organisation with his brilliant podcast.

All news organisations have good people and bad people, good journalists and bad ones, and questionable editorial policy.

It’s so utterly childish to think any are superior or inferior to another, it’s school-aged thinking about the world.

@TheresaLeafy are you ok with The Guardian printing racist cartoons of Priti Patel?

would you call for a boycott of The Guardian ? This wasn’t reporting on a racist cartoon just to make that clear

I have a very open mind...

We have very different ideas about what open mindedness means.