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Ridiculous argument with neighbour

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KindleAndCake · 21/04/2022 15:24

Maybe IABU. My dog only ever barks at cats, that's it. Never at other dogs or people.
So, new neighbours at the back recently moved in and have cats, they have them on leads and put them up against our fence.
When I let our dog out and he sees the cats through the fence he'll bark at them. I will then bring him in.
Neighbour saw me today and challenged me over the barking. He said it was annoying. I just said there wasn't much I could do, he's a dog and he barks at cats and I bring him in as soon as I hear him.
Neighbour then responds with, "but my cat doesn't make any noise". I just looked at him, and said, but he's a cat. He doesn't bark.
Neighbour then threatened to call the police if this carries on.
Am I really being unreasonable? I don't know what else I can do?

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CorsicaDreaming · 21/04/2022 16:36

@XenoBitch

Cat on lead freaks out and strangles itself.
Yes but he is already tying them up!
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BrightonBunny · 21/04/2022 16:37

Yes I would block off the fence so your dogs are not getting stressed seeing the cats through there. That will minimise the impact a lot I would have thought?

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LakieLady · 21/04/2022 16:38

SleeplessInEngland · 21/04/2022 15:53

I'd be amused to hear the police response if he/she actually rang them.

Exactly what I was thinking.

I think the OP should ask the neighbour to record the call when he phones it in, so the OP can hear the police response and share it with us.

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zingally · 21/04/2022 16:39

If your dog is stressed by the cats (and that's why they bark, it's a stress thing), then it's your job as a responsible dog owner to either put something up so he can't see through the fence, or train him not to bark at cats.

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FateHasRedesignedMost · 21/04/2022 16:40

You need to train your dog not to bark at their cats. He sounds annoying and noisy and badly trained. Cats roam outdoors and climb trees and fences, they’re in their own garden!

How would you feel if they had a dog who barked at yours whenever he stepped outside?

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Franklyfrost · 21/04/2022 16:41

Your dog should be quiet at night, cats or no cats, because that way your neighbours can sleep. Its a ridiculous question to ask.

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10HailMarys · 21/04/2022 16:44

It must be possible to train the dog not to bark**

In this particular situation, almost certainly not. There are limits.

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JudgeJ · 21/04/2022 16:44

PriamFarrl · 21/04/2022 15:34

Why do they have cats on leads?

No way would my cat have stood for that! He was a little devil for crouching under the hedge in the front garden then leaping out when a dog came by, so many dog walkers crossed the road before our house.
Years ago, a different cat, we lived next door to the breeders of salukis and, because of the slope of the land, there was a low wall at the side of our house that was level with the roof of their enclosure, the cat loved to lie along the wall in the sun doing nothing but the dogs weren't happy, being a highly strung breed to begin with.

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Prettypussy · 21/04/2022 16:45

Yes, cats will deliberately taunt a dog that they know can't reach them. My cat used to go to the neighbours and deliberately sit in front of the glass door with the dog the other side. She also used to sit about 2 feet away from the reach of the next doors dog when they tied him up (always licking her bottom with leg in the air) while the dog went crazy! So, if the cats know your dog can't reach them on the fence they could well sit there smugly while her barks away!

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10HailMarys · 21/04/2022 16:46

Franklyfrost · 21/04/2022 16:41

Your dog should be quiet at night, cats or no cats, because that way your neighbours can sleep. Its a ridiculous question to ask.

Where does it say the dog is barking at night?! It's barking when the neighbours have tied their cats on leads in the garden to exercise them, not when the neighbours are asleep.

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DameHelena · 21/04/2022 16:46

Franklyfrost · 21/04/2022 16:41

Your dog should be quiet at night, cats or no cats, because that way your neighbours can sleep. Its a ridiculous question to ask.

Who said anything about it being at night?

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XenoBitch · 21/04/2022 16:46

Franklyfrost · 21/04/2022 16:41

Your dog should be quiet at night, cats or no cats, because that way your neighbours can sleep. Its a ridiculous question to ask.

Where did OP say that their dog was barking at night?

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MaisyMary77 · 21/04/2022 16:49

Poor cats! Tethering them with a lead sounds cruel. They need to get a catio, at least then the cats could jump around without getting tangled.

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OhWhatFuckeryIsThisNow · 21/04/2022 16:50

You all know dogs can still smell cats even if they can’t see them? And cats bloody love taunting dogs.(mine likes to stand at the door staring at the dog when she has a dentistik. He doesn’t want the dentistik, but he likes making the dog think he does)
The man is an utter fuckwit btw.

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ForeverLooking · 21/04/2022 16:51

Cats tied up with leads is frankly ridiculous and asking for an accident, especially if the cats are jumping up onto fences. If the neighbour is worried about straying you can get all kinds of catios, even special pop up mesh tents so the cats can move around safely. Hey, but they are his cats and it's his choice.
If its your fence you can attach rollers or narrow trellis to make it impossible for the cats to sit on top. I hate the spike strips and wouldn't do that. If they sit in one place can you possibly put up something like a patio umbrella so your dog can't see the top of the fence with them sitting on it? Or screen with tall plants?

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HoppingPavlova · 21/04/2022 16:53

I’m all for cats staying in their own yards (and shitting in their own yards), but it sounds really dangerous if the cats can jump up on to the fence. If they jumped down your side, could they not hang themselves on the lead, or get attacked by your dog with no avenue of escape due to the leads? Doesn’t seem like a well thought through plan of containing the cats.

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BrightOrangeOrange · 21/04/2022 16:57

HoppingPavlova · 21/04/2022 16:53

I’m all for cats staying in their own yards (and shitting in their own yards), but it sounds really dangerous if the cats can jump up on to the fence. If they jumped down your side, could they not hang themselves on the lead, or get attacked by your dog with no avenue of escape due to the leads? Doesn’t seem like a well thought through plan of containing the cats.

Yes I agree, it doesn't seem very safe at all.

I feel sorry for the cats and the poor dog too, the neighbour is an idiot.

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Staffy1 · 21/04/2022 17:02

Put something against the fence, or plants, to cover it. If the cats then climb the fence and look down it’s up to the neighbour to get them off the fence or put up with the barking.

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swimlyn · 21/04/2022 17:03

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Maydaysoonenough · 21/04/2022 17:07

Install some motion sensor sprinklers near your fencing. He will have to keep the dcats away then.
And if my calculations are correct the ddog wil set them off getting just revenge on furry beasts!!
And hopefully ndn.

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JoodHood · 21/04/2022 17:09

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tkwal · 21/04/2022 17:09

Put a movement activated water sprinkler close to the fence ? Buy yourself a supersoaker ?

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emmyren4 · 21/04/2022 17:12

You need to train your dog not to bark at their cats. He sounds annoying and noisy and badly trained. Cats roam outdoors and climb trees and fences, they’re in their own garden! 

How would you feel if they had a dog who barked at yours whenever he stepped outside?

@FateHasRedesignedMost

Lol. You do know that dogs are territorial and have a prey drive, right? Trying to train a dog not to bark when he feels a cat is encroaching is about as useful as telling a cat not to chase birds. You can only fight nature to a finite extent.

OP, pic of the neighbours' cat on the roof of a shed, tormenting my dog. It is literally rolling its eyes at him as it knows it's way faster and way smarter than he is

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MrOllivander · 21/04/2022 17:14

My cat torments dogs. I don't moan when they then bark!
He saunters down the garden until passing dog is going mad then spits at them. The Rottweiler hides behind its owner now Blush

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WiddlinDiddlin · 21/04/2022 17:14

Jalepenojello · 21/04/2022 15:43

Train your dog?

Oh what a good idea, and how does the OP do that, snap her fingers and instantly it's done - do tell how?

Do you actually know how? I do find people like to blurt that out, as if no one ever thought of it before and as if it can be done instantly... with no actual clue as to how it would be done or what would be involved.

It would involve first, preventing the dog from seeing the cat most of the time.

This could be done by covering the fence (I would, as this is likely to be a long term issue) and if it is the OP's fence, put an inward overhang on it so the dog cannot jump over or get anywhere near reaching the top, but of a construction that doesn't allow the cat to walk on it, stock fencing would do.

You can also achieve this by only doing supervised garden trips, dog dragging a long line from a harness (never from a collar, that's dangerous).

Next, reward the ever loving crap out of the dog every time they see the cat, don't wait for the dog to bark or if the dog is barking, don't ask them to shut up or wait for them to stop. Just drop bits of sausage in front of them/shove it in their mouth (ideally get in there before barking occurs).

The point is to create a positive association between sight of cat and nice things from owner, whilst preventing barking from becoming a habit (barking is fun, its also rewarded if the cat goes away, double whammy of reinforcement).

The positive association means the barking eventually fades out, as the barking is an emotional response to suddenly seeing a cat.

The long line means you can remove the dog swiftly without chasing or shouting, if the dog is too overwhelmed to take the treats.

Counter conditioning folks - it works, but it is tedious and it does require management too. And not overnight!

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