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To update about The Family Sex Show

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theDudesmummy · 19/04/2022 16:36

There are active two threads on this in Feminism but I feel I just have to update here for traffic. Although protests appear to have, for now, stopped the theatre production going ahead, new and highly disturbing material has today appeared on their webpage, clearly aimed at children. It (cheerily and breezily) suggests, among other things, that children search for images of masturbating animals on the internet and then draw what they see. I am not going to Google that term, I really don't want that in my history, but first, can you imagine what children will be exposed to if they search that, and second, this is pure and simple grooming of children into being abused. Masturbating animals? What larks! Lets have an arts and crafts session about it! Next steps: Masturbating with Uncle Jim? Why not? Masturbating Uncle Jim? Of course!

I have now made a complaint to CEOP. Others may wish to as well.

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EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 19/04/2022 22:29

RottenInDenmark - I'm truly sorry that you had to come to your knowledge the way that you did.

Thank you for your courage in speaking up on this thread.

Electricfireplace · 19/04/2022 22:29

@ScrollingLeaves

doublemonkey

theDudesmummy
“It DOES seem hard to believe, here is a screenshot from their page (via Twitter)”

“So I've googled this and on the image search there are several pictures of beastiality.

Never mind the NSPCC, maybe we should be complaining to the NSPCA?“

The screenshot from the page instructs children to do an internet search for animals masturbating. Th en draw “an animal”
What anyone looking this up is likely to find, does not need much guessing.

Either they are unbelievably stupid even though they are purportedly ‘educators’, or very nasty.

I looked up their prof credentials on their website but I didn't see any reference to primary teaching experience or qualifications actually. Any primary teacher would be able to tell you it's completely inappropriate so, even though they are loudly trying to point to the show being designed by experts...I don't see any listed.
Whatwouldscullydo · 19/04/2022 22:35

Throw whatever names/terms you Want at me. I'll take them all if that's what it takes to stand in the side that thinks sex education for children does not involve googling masturbating animals and adults who think men can have vulvas.

Anyone who cant see a problem has serious boundary issues I hope they can realise and seek help for. Or they are the very people that parents try and put these bounderies in place to protect our children from.

Either way they can keep their beastiality to themselves and leave the children the fuck alone

Bangolads · 19/04/2022 22:36

Goodness me I’m shocked by this!! What were they thinking? Obviously we should be teaching our kids to have autonomy over their bodies, that masturbation is completely normal and it’s not normal for anyone else to touch them. Children obviously have been taught to feel ashamed for so long and this has been a massive factor in perpetuating abuse. Masturbation is something that can happen from as young as 3. It’s not sexual in an adult way. But Googling animals masturbating is just ridiculous. Of course they’ll come across completely inappropriate material. Gobsmacked.

Becles · 19/04/2022 22:37

Some screenshots for those thinking this is just froth

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BodgertheJogger · 19/04/2022 22:37

I am SO shocked that this event even got this far or even was formulated.
Someone's on glue. Hmm

Becles · 19/04/2022 22:39

More screenshots of the content suitable for young kids and up but I'm having problems with the site

BodgertheJogger · 19/04/2022 22:39

At best I thought they would have got half way through creating it and looked back and thought it might be an awful idea, but the fact that it would have had to have passed certain safety checks etc. is crazy.

nolongersurprised · 19/04/2022 22:40

There’s a lot of evil shit being done in the name of the “Q” part of the rainbow umbrella. Attach a flag to it and people who don’t think primary school children should be googling pictures of masturbating animals get to be called “bigot”.

Norgie · 19/04/2022 22:41

If anyone had told my kids to look up or view material like this, I would have gone beserk like you've never seen before.
Parents need to shut this despicable shit down before it even gets going.

PrelateChuckles · 19/04/2022 22:44

I don't tell any primary age children to 'go on the internet' and 'google' ANYTHING. Where relevant I tell them to ask their mum/dad/carer to look it up and show them.

ScrollingLeaves · 19/04/2022 22:48

VeneziaGiulia45

RottenInDenmark
They don't know what is right and wrong - the boundaries are blurred for lots of people now, all the kink and bdsm crap. There is no idea of 'sexual morality', it just doesn't exist, neither do the general concepts of what is perverse or deviant, this language is just disappearing.

I was part of the sex positivity several years ago, and the reasons I moved in those circles ended up being the reasons I left.

I became part of it because I didn't understand quite how violated I'd been as a child, and I was looking for something to heal me.

What I didn't realise back then was that a) what I was really seeking out was the original wound, ie. the abuse, and b) that when you work on the fringe of what is acceptable, it attracts people who are also wounded. This is all hidden - even from many of the protagonists themselves - by a sense of specialness conferred by being edgy and out of the ordinary.

The problem is that these fringe areas weren't regulated, and managed to find their way into the mainstream because there was no regulatory framework that recognised them. My particular field of work (which was exclusively for adults) was a "legal grey area" inasmuch as no current laws had ever factored it in.

This is how things like this gain traction. They are a novelty; they garner interest; because the pool of participants is small, 'experts' are made relatively quickly. There are no governing bodies outside the industries themselves. They are accountable only to each other.

The plain truth of the matter is that many "healing paradigms" (because that's what they see themselves as) attract wounded healers, who end up perpetuating abusive patterns. There is little to no psychological training in any of these approaches; scant recognition of psychological trauma or how to deal with it; no cognisance of unconscious motives and their power to wreak destruction.

I can see very clearly how this happened, and what we're up against here is not only a kind of mob mentality, but also an inability of that mob to reflect on their own damaged-ness or on the very real risks inherent in damaging others in the name of "sexual liberation". It is a fucking mess.

(Name-changed. I've been here for many years.)

Wonderfully put. Also, I'm so sorry for what you went through.

I agree. Wonderfully put. What you are talking about here is so nuanced and based in knowledge. Unfortunately there seems to be no will for regulation to stop this tide of socially accepted grooming in plain sight which goes by the name of inclusivity and education.

Whenever objections to it are reported the implication often seems to be that the objectors are bigots.

Becles · 19/04/2022 22:48

The screenshots aren't working

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KimikosNightmare · 19/04/2022 22:49

@PrelateChuckles

I don't tell any primary age children to 'go on the internet' and 'google' ANYTHING. Where relevant I tell them to ask their mum/dad/carer to look it up and show them.
Good point. Excellent point.
sjxoxo · 19/04/2022 22:50

Haven’t read all 14 pages of this thread but there’s a petition regarding this, you can sign here:
citizengo.org/en/node/207302?utm_source=link&utm_medium=social&utm_content=tyflow&utm_campaign=

This is the petition which was cited in The Guardian article today. The statement from the family sex show said there’s a ‘small’ number of people who are opposing the show… there’s 39,000 signatures!!!! I wouldn’t call that small! X

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 19/04/2022 22:55

Turns out that it looks like one of the co founders of the Sex ed group behind the show, also works for BBC

The BBC will, of course, soon be assuring us that despite Netflix's A Very British Horror Show — Savile documentary that exposes how BBC, amongst others, played a very prominent enabling role—they have learned lessons and would never champion and protect similar abusers or practices again.

I've forgotten. I know that the BBC refused to collaborate or respond to parts of its own BBC Sounds Nolan podcast series but did they ever tell us about the lessons learned from that?

fairplayforwomen.com/stonewall-transcripts/

BBC Sounds, Nolan podcast series: www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p09yjmph/episodes/downloads

iklboo · 19/04/2022 22:59

Fucking hell, what a lot of fuss about nothing.

Jesus Christ. Just when you think people can't say anything more stupid.

Yeeq · 19/04/2022 23:02

Anyone who wants to get naked in front of strangers kids and encourages them to search for masturbating animals needs their hard drive searched.
They are disgusting and dressing up their grim behavior as the arts jazz hands doesn't make it acceptable.

Booklover3 · 19/04/2022 23:10

Jesus Christ. I’m speechless. I’ve signed the petition too

Longcovid21 · 19/04/2022 23:11

Children of primary school age need to know nothing about sex beyond the very basics. Give them a childhood FFS.

MrsDanversBroom · 19/04/2022 23:11

@Tiddlesthecat

schoolofsexed.org/team

In case you wanted to meet the team of experts or sexperts behind this very official and experienced sounding organisation....

Interesting to see who sponsors them. I will email someof them to ask why.
Franca123 · 19/04/2022 23:18

The BBC showering itself in glory once again. Great timing with the Saville documentary just coming out.

Redshoeblueshoe · 19/04/2022 23:23

I've signed the petition too.
Becles your screenshots have posted, and thanks - I didn't want to look at the site

Ghislainedefeligonde · 19/04/2022 23:34

The BBCs reporting of this is hideously biased. They need to wake the fuck up and stop groomers trying to access children with shit like this. I’m furious that this show got as far as this and that the media are not accurately reporting on this
Angry
Well done everyone who’s been highlighting the issues with this production

lameasahorse · 19/04/2022 23:46

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