To update about The Family Sex Show

[theDudesmummy]

There are active two threads on this in Feminism but I feel I just have to update here for traffic. Although protests appear to have, for now, stopped the theatre production going ahead, new and highly disturbing material has today appeared on their webpage, clearly aimed at children. It (cheerily and breezily) suggests, among other things, that children search for images of masturbating animals on the internet and then draw what they see. I am not going to Google that term, I really don't want that in my history, but first, can you imagine what children will be exposed to if they search that, and second, this is pure and simple grooming of children into being abused. Masturbating animals? What larks! Lets have an arts and crafts session about it! Next steps: Masturbating with Uncle Jim? Why not? Masturbating Uncle Jim? Of course!

I have now made a complaint to CEOP. Others may wish to as well.

As a quick reminder about the scale of CSA in the UK, this is about a Home Office commissioned study in collaboration with the NSPCC.

"One in 10 children are sexually abused by the age of 16, according to a Home Office-funded study that warns victims face a geographical lottery on action by police and local councils to protect them.

The research found that 15 per cent of girls and five per cent of boys were victims of child sexual abuse by the age of 16, based on official government and NSPCC data.
Yet while some local councils were identifying hundreds of children as being potential victims of abuse, others were reporting none.
Two councils identified no children for whom they had concerns about sexual abuse, whilst five identified more than 70 for every 10,000 living in their areas, according to the research by the Centre of Expertise on Child Sexual Abuse (CSA).
There were also wide variations in police forcess_, with a threefold difference in the rate of recorded child sexual abuse offences relative to child population between the best and the worst.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4534018-study-finds-that-15-of-girls-and-5-of-boys-were-victims-of-sexual-abuse-by-age-16

Despite this, look at the poor response from the NSPCC to people who made enquiries of them about this show. The MSM coverage of TFSS from BBC and Guardian has been wearily predictable. I'm yet to see any of these organisations put up an argument as to how TFSS would contribute to a reduction of CSE and CSA.

Hazel Morgan who is featured on the School of Sex Ed website is a producer for BBC Radio.

I have received a DM from PP on this thread defening the show/webpage and telling telling me that they are a primary school teacher and "do not know anything about child sexual abuse" (verbatim quote) but see nothing wrong with the show. This is staggering, and if in the UK likely to be open to legal challenge of their employer, for failing to provide essential mandatory training. I cannot however believe it to be true.

Imagine being a primary school teacher and being as thick as mince on the issue of safeguarding?

Imagine commenting in support of something that countless people who clearly know what they are talking about have said is dangerous, and admitting you "know nothing" about the subject of the danger. That would be like a surgeon coming and saying don't go to an unqualified person to have such and such procedure because of this specific risk, and me, a non-surgeon with no knowledge of the procedure, saying oh go on, have a go anyway.

Well, teachers completely unaware about safeguarding is very useful for anyone looking to groom or abuse children. Teacher are supposed to be an extra layer of protection.

A school that does not train their teachers in safeguarding is breaking the law. I don't know much about teacher training but I just looked it up.

i work with vulnerable children and our safeguarding training is yearly and very detailed. Is this the same in teaching?

Yes, teachers do detailed safeguarding training every single year. We know a lot about CSA. That poster is 100% for definite not a teacher.

It seems the person who DMed me is either (a) lying about being a teacher, (b) lying about their not knowing anything about child abuse, or (c) in breach of the law, along with their employer. I sincerely hope it is (a).

Schools should give safeguarding training every year. OFSTED will check everyone’s safeguarding certificates when they inspect.

Yes, I’m a school governor and all teachers and anyone associated with the school has to do mandatory yearly safeguarding training (I recently updated mine - minimum of a 2hr training seminar, plus reading all of the very very lengthy mandatory Keeping Children Safe In Education (KCSIE) document issued by the DfE which is extremely detailed - and I’m not even a teacher).

Anyone who claims to be a primary school teacher but have no idea about CSE or safeguarding is simply a blatant liar.

I thought that must be the case, I also work in an environment with mandatory safeguarding training ( vulnerable adults) and inspection requirements. I wonder why the person is lying?

I thought that must be the case, I also work in an environment with mandatory safeguarding training (vulnerable adults) and inspection requirements. I wonder why the person is lying?

Oops sorry

Could you pin the link to the archive of the website? It looks like many bits have been changed or removed now (including the animal mastubation bit) so new people coming to this thread will wonder what all the fuss is about.

I wonder if any of the apologists on this thread emailed the lovely Family Sex Show people to tip them off? That “animal masturbation drawings/googling looks a bit bad, save the bestiality for the show?”

I've forgotten. I know that the BBC refused to collaborate or respond to parts of its own BBC Sounds Nolan podcast series but did they ever tell us about the lessons learned from that?

Of course not - among such people it's expected that just uttering the phrase will be enough and that everyone else will fall into line

On another note, I'm wondering who they're planning for the "invited audience" to be?

Aah, now we can see why you are so against 'feminists' or 'normal people who safeguard against [redacted]'.

Got it.

This absolutely disgusting a d shod be stopped. Sexually educate children and adts alike but with age appropriate information; and do not push any specific agenda, as seems to the way these days. There are 2 sexes, it is simple biology, XX & XY. Stop shoving other things down children's mouths, it will confuse them and then the parents have to pick the pieces.

Animal masturbation is indeed gone. I wonder why...

Well if the people themselves aren't defending it enough to keep it on the website then we have people on here defending it for no reason now. Why? It's as good as admitting its not suitable.

Still think it's ok?

I know its been said a lot already but i was a lunchtime supervisor and an invigilator at two separate schools so very very part time and even ive been trained in safe guarding

Because it is sick and should have no place in any form of 'education'. Mastubation is normal, but educate that to teenagers and adults not 5 year olds.

@lameasahorse , genuinely interested, why do you think it is ok to