This government and their direction of travel, frightens me.

[Kendodd]

Teressa May (last government, but same party) with her 'go home immigrants' vans and hostle environment.
Immigration and Borders act.
Transportation to Rwanda.
Bringing laws in trying to limit our right to protest.
Lying to the queen to prorogue parliament.
Lying in the house of commons.
Trying to change the law to get one of your MPs off.
Pretty much ripping up the ministerial code.
Windrush.
Admitting that they're just going to break international law.

I bet they will come after the human rights act and try to get us out of ECHR.

Worse, I think a great many of the public love the fact they've done all the above and would cheer loudly at the ripping up of the human rights act and ECHR membership (wtaf?)

How did we get to this?

@desiringonlychild2022

People, there was a referendum on 'immigration' called the EU referendum.

yes there were people who voted on the basis of 'sovereignty' but more people voted because they didn't want any more eastern europeans using the health service and taking jobs and buying homes. I even had a Brexiter tell me that I was taking a home that could have gone to a British person (my DH is British) when I told him of my plan to buy a flat in London.

We had a hard Brexit. Are house prices lower? Is there less pressure on the NHS. You can perhaps blame the cost of living crisis on the pandemic and the war in Ukraine, but Brexit has undoubtedly caused prices to increase. And incomes are stagnating for many people. There is no light at the end of this tunnel. Even if you didn't let in a single brown skinned person, the house prices will still be high, the NHS will still be overtaxed.

The people buying your houses do not necessarily live here. Many of them are also british. all of my mum's colleagues back home own apartments in London and none live in the UK. They are also not syrian refugees in inflatable rubber boats. None of the people buying houses on the cornish coast and other beautiful places with high house prices (and minimum wage incomes) are syrian refugees (most are probably British). As for the NHS, the biggest source of pressure is the elderly population and whatever colour they are, most were born here or have been here for many years. Stopping immigration is not going to reduce that pressure, they already have the right to be here. In fact, making immigration more difficult is likely to prevent the young Indian nurse or doctor who will save your life from coming here.

The main source of a lot of the UK's problem is stark inequality. The high earners pay 30% of our tax revenue. And there are not many of them for a country the size of the UK, many of them are disproportionately in London and the SE. Many people pay less taxes than what they consume in services because of low pay. a large percentage of the working population is economically inactive- 25%; many of them due to disability or caring responsibilities but this means less money to fund the NHS. our gdp growth and productivity is low- less money to fund the NHS and services. The low pay isn't due to the immigrants; in fact the regions with the lowest pay i.e. the north have far fewer immigrants in percentage terms than London. It is due to lack of investment in infrastructure and lack of economic growth- so businesses can't expand.

We should be holding the government to account for our lack of economic growth and lack of investment in the country and economic inequality.

I might print this off & frame it! Spot on!

My argument with the EC was about my reservations regarding passed-over has-been politicians and bueaucrats being parachuted up out of national politics to a place where they could feel good and get rich The EC is still that place. It's not about constituency or accountability and it's full of delegates earning twice a UK MP's salary doing half the work. It's not race, or religion, or political affliations.

Where would you suggest EU politicians and bureaucrats come from? How do you know they are has beens, let alone how much work they do for the EU ?

Less than say Geoffrey Cox?

The only people who gained from Brexit seem to be Putin and Boris Johnson.

Yes, but Fabricat more than makes up for it.

In fairness, I think the UK electorate has to take some responsibility here, a significant proportion of MEP’s elected over the last decade or so have been elected with the remit to push to leave the EU. They weren’t acting in our interests in the EU parliament they were there to represent a negative.

Nigel Farage made a lot of money by representing a view that by definition made him a shit representative as an MEP.