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Teachers /Nurses partying in staff room

274 replies

Bonabee · 12/04/2022 15:32

Michael Fabricant has just said on BBC that teachers and nurses were drinking and partying after their stressful shifts during lockdown.
This was in defence of Johnson, Sunak etc.
I know he is a clown but this is so insulting.
AIBU?

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TheGoogleMum · 12/04/2022 22:47

I'm not a nurse but I am nhs we definitely didn't have any staff room parties. Our staff room has a person limit and 2 'do not use' chairs between each chair were allowed to sit in. We weren't allowed to have staff Xmas parties even December 2021 because of the risk of whole team getting covid (2020 it wasn't allowed for anyone anyway so we couldn't do anything then either)

Fizzorgin · 12/04/2022 22:53

Not RTFT (sorry!) but just popped on to say there is a very real and valid reason he is commonly known as Michael Fabri'cunt'

lovethebedtomyself · 12/04/2022 23:02

I know in my experience (working in a school) and a family member who works in a school and another who is a nurse based in a hospital that nothing could be further from the truth. He is shamelessly trying to defend the indefensible while people are still coming to terms with not being with their relatives in care homes, not being with them when they were dying or sitting on their own at a funeral.

Neverreturntoathread · 12/04/2022 23:09

Can I just apologise to all nurses and teachers on behalf of our shitty government.

I’m sorry for the crap you have to deal with. Thank you for the amazing work that you do, and especially for what you have done over the last two years.

Lisad1231981 · 12/04/2022 23:12

@Femalewoman

It's wrong to say that and an attempt to divert from their wrong doing.

To be fair though most of my child's school was home and only the TA's with a headteacher supervising actually worked through the first lockdown. Most were home doing the gardens/homes and would admit that. The provision was woefully inadequate for home schooling - an email with some suggestions BBC bitesize etc so no way the teachers were working at the school. Appreciate that some/many? schools were working harder but I can only comment on my local one.

Please don't judge us all by your child's school.

Our school was online teaching via teams within a week. A full days teaching, while also trying to help your own children to do their schooling too.
My eldest did most of her Alevels via online learning, her school was also very good.
The thought of ever going back to online learning makes me physically sick!

As for parties, that is laughable. Most schools don't have money to buy their staff tea and biscuits let alone wine and cheese!

DowningStreetParty · 12/04/2022 23:14

Can I just apologise to all nurses and teachers on behalf of our shitty government.

I’m sorry for the crap you have to deal with. Thank you for the amazing work that you do, and especially for what you have done over the last two years.

Seconded. Thank you all.

NCembarassed · 12/04/2022 23:17

Man's a twit. I have worked in 3 different schools during lockdown.

At every school, access to the staffroom was strictly limited to those in our bubble. Only 2-3 staff had access at any one time.

After work, we all left ASAP. Certainly no drinking, nibbling, or partying.

Electricfireplace · 12/04/2022 23:26

Our staffroom was blocked off with chairs barricaded across the entrance. We had to bring flasks of hot water with us to school. No access to microwave or even drinking water.
No meetings on-site until April 2021.
So, no parties where I was for sure 🙄

Vgbeat · 12/04/2022 23:34

Well I'm s teacher and didn't get so much as a choccy biscuit. We also got a 1 pound as our pay rise this year for last year. The whole 75p wouldn't even buy a drink.

namechanged221 · 12/04/2022 23:34

Staff room was locked and we had to eat in classrooms alone or with the children.

SpringIntoChaos · 12/04/2022 23:38

Bloody hell...just when you think Teacher Bashing has finally peaked! How insulting (and SO FAR away from the reality it's almost laughable!!!)

We weren't allowed to leave our 'bubble' once we arrived in school (even toilet breaks were scheduled!) Our staff room was locked and we had to bring our own drinks/food from home...thermos if you wanted hot drinks! It was the loneliest time of my 28 year career 😢

liveforsummer · 12/04/2022 23:54

@SpringIntoChaos

Bloody hell...just when you think Teacher Bashing has finally peaked! How insulting (and SO FAR away from the reality it's almost laughable!!!)

We weren't allowed to leave our 'bubble' once we arrived in school (even toilet breaks were scheduled!) Our staff room was locked and we had to bring our own drinks/food from home...thermos if you wanted hot drinks! It was the loneliest time of my 28 year career 😢

Don't forget we could use the fridges either so a health hazard for said home lunches
Krabapple · 13/04/2022 03:10

@TheKeatingFive

I expect it may have done in a few isolated cases. Hard to say it definitively didn't.

But even if it did, it's not comparable to the number 10 parties

Do you honestly think this? Do you know any teachers or NHS staff????
agapanthus1979 · 13/04/2022 03:31

There's a reason why many of us in Lichfield call him Michael FabriCUNT.

agapanthus1979 · 13/04/2022 03:37

I knew I shouldn't have clicked on this.
Yawn.
@Femalewoman I'm a teacher. Know loads, obviously. We all worked our socks off. We taught every lesson online; created and provided the resources for online learning; had weekly 1-1 meetings with every child in our tutor group; created and recorded additional lectures for our GCSE and A Level classes; marked evert piece of work online, either verbally or in writing (which takes ages, particularly when comments or voice recordings fail to save.
I didn't spend the time in my garden as you claim, and neither did my colleagues.
The holidays were spent planning and attending online training for Teams. The weekends were spent catching up with marking.
I'm sorry to write all this - it's not what the thread's about, and it's all been said. It just pisses me off.
As PP said, take up issues with specific schools if you have them. Don't tar all schools/teachers with the same brush.

UndertheCedartree · 13/04/2022 03:39

Drinking and partying after your shift when you need to get home sort yours and kids' things for tomorrow. Try to get a wash on and load the dishwasher. Do some work towards whatever training you are currently doing, grab a shower and a bite to eat before going to bed as you're back in work at 7am.

Tumbleweed101 · 13/04/2022 06:52

During lockdown there was only four of us working, everyone else was on furlough. We stayed open for keyworker children (nursery). The chances of a party were fairly low. On the plus side not one child had even a runny nose through those weeks and nobody caught covid.

RegardingMary · 13/04/2022 07:21

An absolute load of shit.

And so very very disrespectful of the people who kept the country going. Even now, we can't share a slice of cake in the staff room. It's limited to 1 person at a time and food for sharing has to be inodivually wrapped.

itsgettingweird · 13/04/2022 07:31

Dinozzo Thanks I'm so sorry to hear that. I hope the counselling helps and you find some peace in the future.

NeurologicallySpeaking · 13/04/2022 07:33

Haha teacher here and no partying. Even when the rule of six thing came in, we were worried about socialising together as teachers in case we all came down with it together!

HELLITHURT · 13/04/2022 07:34

@Neverreturntoathread

Can I just apologise to all nurses and teachers on behalf of our shitty government.

I’m sorry for the crap you have to deal with. Thank you for the amazing work that you do, and especially for what you have done over the last two years.

Can I also support this. Sorry and thank you.
Sunnysidegold · 13/04/2022 08:00

This has made me sad and angry. So many people had to go out to work during lockdown and could t even get in the flipping staffroom as you weren't allowed.

When we were allowed back in it was strictly monitored regarding numbers and the windows were always open so it was freezing. I wonder if there's any other key workers he would like to attack?

I bet when he was at school and got in trouble he would try to divert attention to the behaviour of others.

Incacat2 · 13/04/2022 08:18

I'm a teacher- the only time I saw any other staff was when we were queuing up for our bi- weekly Covid tests. Then only 3 at a time, 5 metres apart. We ate lunch in classrooms with the kids in our bubbles. In the early days we were told to strip inside our front doors as soon as we got home and shower immediately. I know it was worse for NHS staff. Absolute idiot - feels like a kick in the teeth.

Abraxan · 13/04/2022 08:18

@Femalewoman

It's wrong to say that and an attempt to divert from their wrong doing.

To be fair though most of my child's school was home and only the TA's with a headteacher supervising actually worked through the first lockdown. Most were home doing the gardens/homes and would admit that. The provision was woefully inadequate for home schooling - an email with some suggestions BBC bitesize etc so no way the teachers were working at the school. Appreciate that some/many? schools were working harder but I can only comment on my local one.

Irrelevant what those staff were doing at home, if not breaking the law.

And if you are upset with home learning provision in lockdown one then the people to blame is the government. They suspended the national curriculum when they closed schools to all but essential workers.

The schools who provided maple home learning (my own included to be fair) in those first weeks were the Ines who weren't actually following the guidance for schools generally 🤷‍♀️

Abraxan · 13/04/2022 08:22

And as you say, you can only speak for your own school.

Many local schools, even in lockdown 1, had full 'bubbles' and most staff still working in school. My own school had up to 50% children in and all but 4 members of teaching staff were working in school. The staff at home were classed as vulnerable and advised to be at home, including me. At home I worked very long days overseeing all of our home learning.

And you know what, even if others were sat at home sunbathing in the garden - it's irrelevant. The government set the rules and guidance.

And regardless of it they were home and not working, that still doesn't mean they were all partying and getting together with wine and cake in their staff rooms. Infact if they were al at home gardening they almost certainly weren't in the staff rooms partying, were they?!