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Teachers /Nurses partying in staff room

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Bonabee · 12/04/2022 15:32

Michael Fabricant has just said on BBC that teachers and nurses were drinking and partying after their stressful shifts during lockdown.
This was in defence of Johnson, Sunak etc.
I know he is a clown but this is so insulting.
AIBU?

OP posts:
hedgehogger1 · 13/04/2022 08:24

We weren't even allowed to use a kettle or a fridge for months! He's such a fucking twat

Timeforanewname2014 · 13/04/2022 08:25

I don't work in Education or the NHS but I do work in HR and I remember specifically checking the rules to see if we could allow people working together to get together in a large meeting room in a small group for some leaving drinks. It wasn't so we didn't. It infuriates me that people defending the government on this say they were working / it was a workplace - doesn't matter, it still wasn't allowed!! (Sorry for the slight derail and school and hospital staff thank you for everything you did and continue to do while that shower of hypocrites held their parties)

Gingerwarthog · 13/04/2022 08:39

No partying.
I do remember having to carry my ID badge at all times and a letter saying I was entitled to drive to school as I was a key worker and my drive was essential.
I remember a funeral for a member of our school community which most of us couldn't attend.
I remember we all desperately tried to get it right and didn't try to bend the rules of find loopholes.

jgw1 · 13/04/2022 08:48

The thing is it is quite clearly teachers fault. If they were doing a proper job of teaching then these things would not arise because then the Prime Minister would be able to read the legislation that he put before parliament and know what it meant.

borntobequiet · 13/04/2022 08:51

@jgw1

The thing is it is quite clearly teachers fault. If they were doing a proper job of teaching then these things would not arise because then the Prime Minister would be able to read the legislation that he put before parliament and know what it meant.
Yes, it just goes to show how deep the rot is, even in the public schools.
EvilPea · 13/04/2022 08:51

They are such cunts.
They made the rules. They told us what we could do.

jgw1 · 13/04/2022 08:58

Yes, it just goes to show how deep the rot is, even in the public schools.

This is what Gove was trying to fix in his time as education secretary, it appears he failed. Teachers were too busy partying to teach.
Do the teachers at Eton have booze ups during the working day, perhaps that's where Boris learnt it.

Mammyloveswine · 13/04/2022 09:49

Raging I was never told about the wine ad cheese parties happening in my school staffroom... Hmm

In reality our staff room was closed off, we were in strict bubbles and i was no longer allowed my lift share so walked to and from work as the use of public transport was "discouraged"...

howtomoveforwards · 13/04/2022 10:08

Read the room, Michael, read the room.

Moby715 · 13/04/2022 10:15

I work In A school. We weren’t allowed in our staff rooms or to ‘visit’ another member of staff face to face to talk about work. Teams calls and emails only. Even in the summer of 2021 our department cancelled a work night out after we were asked to consider the implication of being in such close contact with one another should someone catch covid with 2 weeks of school left to go.

HardyBuckette · 13/04/2022 10:54

@EvilPea

They are such cunts. They made the rules. They told us what we could do.
Exactly. It's the hypocrisy. So even if the Tories did manage to dredge up a couple of teacher and/or nurse comprised piss ups out of a country of 50 odd million, it still wouldn't be remotely comparable to what Johnson and Sunak did because teachers and nurses weren't the ones making the rules and imposing them on others. This isn't just about rule breaking, it's about the elite coercing other people and refusing to comply themselves.
EvilPea · 13/04/2022 11:31

Even Kay burley got in the shit for a birthday party. It was all over the news.
How could they not know the public would feel this way

They just didn’t give a fuck

FancyAnOlive · 13/04/2022 11:43

Hahhahahahhahha. I ate my lunch in the playground for months come rain or shine.

StripeyDeckchair · 13/04/2022 12:05

This is such an insulting comment re medical/educational staff.
I'm absolutely livid about it.

Of course we obeyed the rules - we set an example to our students and wanted to protect ourselves & our families.

All the party going MPs should resign NOW

Femalewoman · 13/04/2022 12:28

@agapanthus1979

I knew I shouldn't have clicked on this. Yawn. *@Femalewoman* I'm a teacher. Know loads, obviously. We all worked our socks off. We taught every lesson online; created and provided the resources for online learning; had weekly 1-1 meetings with every child in our tutor group; created and recorded additional lectures for our GCSE and A Level classes; marked evert piece of work online, either verbally or in writing (which takes ages, particularly when comments or voice recordings fail to save. I didn't spend the time in my garden as you claim, and neither did my colleagues. The holidays were spent planning and attending online training for Teams. The weekends were spent catching up with marking. I'm sorry to write all this - it's not what the thread's about, and it's all been said. It just pisses me off. As PP said, take up issues with specific schools if you have them. Don't tar all schools/teachers with the same brush.
Why don't you actually read what I said. I can only speak for my school. Stop assuming all teachers worked their socks off because they didn't, that's just the same as assuming all didn't work. Instead of getting pissed off try to realise that different families had different experiences of lockdown and different schools offered different levels of 'teaching'. In my case and for others I know it was a weekly email with links to websites and a few vulnerable children in school with a TA. The teachers at the school did little but had great gardens. Some unions gave advice to not do online teaching due to security concerns etc (the local private school got around that though).

I didn't claim that YOU spent time in your garden - read the message rather than get all upset and assume it's all about you and what you did - it really isn't. Some worked hard and some didn't.

Yawn back at you since it appears some (you) really don't get that different schools gave a different 'teaching' experience to others, some were great and others were awful. It's not personal to you, it's a valid comment on what some were doing. Try not to get 'pissed off' when others shared their equally valid experiences. Then you won't get so stressed about it all.

Igotnewbarstools · 13/04/2022 12:31

It is so fucking insulting.
I'm not a teacher but work in the nursery of a school. Worked throughout lockdown.
It's only now getting to the stage we're allowed in our staff room.
BJ should be made to resign. If any of us were found to be drinking in the staff room we would not have a job anymore.

Sherrystrull · 13/04/2022 12:36

@Femalewoman

The curriculum was suspended.

Also, what does the provision schools provided during any lockdown have to do with the accusation towards teachers about having a drink in the staffroom?

elitecomplainer · 13/04/2022 12:52

In my hospital: 2 people max in the break room at any time.

Plus NHS staff members living away on their own away from home for months on end to avoid bringing the virus home to their families after a day at work treating the sick and dying with Covid. While some of their colleagues died of Covid.

Angela Rayner was right.

DowningStreetParty · 13/04/2022 13:01

Nursing and teaching bodies complain about MP's lockdown drink comments www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-61088139

HardyBuckette · 13/04/2022 13:05

@EvilPea

Even Kay burley got in the shit for a birthday party. It was all over the news. How could they not know the public would feel this way

They just didn’t give a fuck

Your second paragraph is the answer.

They didn't give a fuck because it wasn't important, the rules didn't apply to them.

Femalewoman · 13/04/2022 13:38

[quote Sherrystrull]@Femalewoman

The curriculum was suspended.

Also, what does the provision schools provided during any lockdown have to do with the accusation towards teachers about having a drink in the staffroom? [/quote]
It doesn't.

I was replying to a teacher who was 'pissed off' because she had misread my very first comment and was answering that. She was pissed off because apparently people are tarring all teachers with the same brush as the ones that did very little work (they aren't). As I pointed out to her some worked hard and some didn't.

The trouble with replying to a comment that goes completely off the subject as I did you get more and more off the subject with subsequent replies.

The partying at Number 10 was wrong and I feel he should resign but he won't of course he will wriggle it off as he always does. His supporters will still vote for him and the country will move on. Some will froth over this but it doesn't appear to make any difference at all. Unless his party decide a vote of no confidence, which they won't he will remain.

DinosApple · 13/04/2022 14:19

What an idiot.

There was no staff room, certainly no booze consumed at work and most definitely no party. There were no wakes either which was 1000x harder.

Whilst the law makers and breakers were partying, people were dying alone. That is unforgivable.

x2boys · 13/04/2022 14:31

I mean its a while since I worked as a nurse and I didn't work during the pandemic ,but any staff room on the various wards I worked in was just a little room with a couple of chairs ,in fact the last ward I worked on it just had two toilets ,and was notoriously cold and basically just wear people hung their coats I can't imagine anyone wanting to socialise in it ,you could barely fit two people innit !

Dahl1a · 13/04/2022 14:39

The msn is clueless.Half our staff weren’t allowed in the staff room and had a separate room elsewhere. Then those that were were limited to a few at a time with seats way apart. We never saw staff in other bubbles. Our head followed everything meticulously with weekly emails. We’d have lost our job if we’d partied not that any of us felt like it.It was horrible for the kids and all of us. Children are still suffering from the isolation of following guidelines. It makes me so angry that they didn’t. The police were called when my nephews who were 11 at the time chatted with friends outside on the housing estate green space.Angry

JeremyJordanseyebrows · 13/04/2022 14:56

Oh yes, the "crying all the way in to work and bathing in bleach on our return home so we don't kill our families" party - I remember that with such fondness.

My PTSD was caused by the Government (and subsequently, public) response and treatment of frontline NHS workers, not the actual pandemic.

Thankyou so much, our "fearless" leaders - once again confirming how much we are despised and ridiculed.