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Boris and Fixed Penalty Notice

95 replies

BarrelOfOtters2 · 12/04/2022 14:04

So Boris and Rishi both been issed Fixed Penalty Notices for attending illegal gatherings.

Maybe we'll get the Sue Gray report now.

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SleeplessInEngland · 12/04/2022 14:07

Feels like an interesting moment for the country. The first time a sitting PM has broken the law (and been caught). The degree to which we tolerate it will set a hell of a precedent.

Expect to hear a lot of "there are bigger things to worry about now" and "we've moved on" from the conservatives, of course.

FrenchMustard · 12/04/2022 14:08

Wishful thinking...I think Boris ought to resign but I doubt that will happen either. I don't think we will ever know the true extent of their rule breaking.

longwayoff · 12/04/2022 14:09

Oh no, that must be a terrible mistake. Boz says he was working and definitely didn't attend any parties which weren't parties anyway. I expect the police have got it wrong. Sue Grey? Who she?

pointythings · 12/04/2022 14:10

Cue hordes of Tory Fangirls on here who will start bleating 'But Corbyn' and 'at least Boris knows what a woman is'.

He won't resign. He should, and there should be an immediate election, but we're stuck with him and the Great British Electorate aided by FPTP will just vote his shower in again.

Parker231 · 12/04/2022 14:14

Lying to Parliament and being caught out is going to make his position impossible - he needs to resign or wait for the 1922 committee to get rid of him - thank goodness!

AlexaShutUp · 12/04/2022 14:14

It will be a terrible stain on our democracy if he doesn't resign. You cannot have a PM urging the population to observe the law on the one hand while breaking it in the other, and then lying to Parliament about it.

While a part of me would love to see BJ stay and get hammered by the electorate in a general election, I just don't think his position is even remotely tenable, and frankly I would be astonished if the Tories decided to let him stay. It brings the whole political system into disrepute.

Liz Truss must be rubbing her hands together in glee. Now that Rishi is out of the picture, who else is there?

Tanith · 12/04/2022 14:14

So whoever leaked that photo from the Chancellor's office, it wasn't Rishi Sunak?

billyt · 12/04/2022 14:14

That's the thing. Hit them in the pocket where it'll hurt

Oh, wait..............

fecking lying scum

Hairbrush123 · 12/04/2022 14:15

Just saw that Carrie has been fined too!

TenRedThings · 12/04/2022 14:15

Boris has no shame, he won't leave until the people go and physically make him.

Rodedooda · 12/04/2022 14:16

Carrie fined £10,000 (apparently)

What's lying liar going to say to this one?

longwayoff · 12/04/2022 14:17

Excuse me, I need this for a little relief GrinGrinGrin. Bastards. Watch them wriggle out of this. Is that Bozo over there standing by a tank? Oh yes. Of course it is.

LauraNicolaides · 12/04/2022 14:23

Dear god, please not Liz Truss.

And the problem is that if Johnson goes there really is no one suitable to be PM. The poison of the brexit, will-of-the-people, orthodoxy in the Tory party means that the only people now in high office are incompetent (genuinely believe brexit was a good thing, very few) or opportunistic liars (the majority, can see it was a very bad thing, but pretend otherwise for public consumption). We're in a dire place with our senior politicians.

SleeplessInEngland · 12/04/2022 14:24

Certainly convenient that this comes out during parliamentary recess.

ilovesooty · 12/04/2022 14:26

@pointythings

Cue hordes of Tory Fangirls on here who will start bleating 'But Corbyn' and 'at least Boris knows what a woman is'.

He won't resign. He should, and there should be an immediate election, but we're stuck with him and the Great British Electorate aided by FPTP will just vote his shower in again.

Definitely.
LauraNicolaides · 12/04/2022 14:28

@pointythings

Cue hordes of Tory Fangirls on here who will start bleating 'But Corbyn' and 'at least Boris knows what a woman is'.

He won't resign. He should, and there should be an immediate election, but we're stuck with him and the Great British Electorate aided by FPTP will just vote his shower in again.

There's certainly no need for a general election.
AlexaShutUp · 12/04/2022 14:28

@LauraNicolaides

Dear god, please not Liz Truss.

And the problem is that if Johnson goes there really is no one suitable to be PM. The poison of the brexit, will-of-the-people, orthodoxy in the Tory party means that the only people now in high office are incompetent (genuinely believe brexit was a good thing, very few) or opportunistic liars (the majority, can see it was a very bad thing, but pretend otherwise for public consumption). We're in a dire place with our senior politicians.

There is no one suitable to be PM whether BJ stays or goes. BJ has demonstrated yet again that he is utterly unfit for public office.

We need a general election now.

SleeplessInEngland · 12/04/2022 14:28

Apparenlty Johnson's team 'don't even know which events he's being fined for'...

AlexaShutUp · 12/04/2022 14:29

@SleeplessInEngland

Apparenlty Johnson's team 'don't even know which events he's being fined for'...
Yeah, there were so many parties....
ilovesooty · 12/04/2022 14:29

He lied to Parliament. He should go.

pointythings · 12/04/2022 14:32

@SleeplessInEngland

Apparenlty Johnson's team 'don't even know which events he's being fined for'...
Well then he should get more than one fine - one for each offence, surely?
LauraNicolaides · 12/04/2022 14:32

There is no one suitable to be PM whether BJ stays or goes. BJ has demonstrated yet again that he is utterly unfit for public office.

We need a general election now.

Wishful thinking, but that's not the test for a general election.

AlexaShutUp · 12/04/2022 14:32

@LauraNicolaides, there is every need for a general election. Those at the very top of our government have breached the trust that the public placed in them when they were elected. Those responsible for making the law have undermined the rule of law. And the Prime Minister has brazenly lied to Parliament.

The fundamental contract between the government and the public has been broken, and they need to go. En masse.

AlexaShutUp · 12/04/2022 14:34

Yes, of course there is no constitutional case to push for a general election. There is no precedent for the two most senior politicians in the country having broken the law.

We have no way of insisting on an election However, that doesn't mean that we don't need one.

Parker231 · 12/04/2022 14:34

PMQ’s is going to be interesting ……