Table 8 CF

[HappyDays40]

Just stopped at Morrisons for a cheese toastie and sat down at table 8. A very unremarkable table not near a window or any interesting features of note. Sat happily drinking my brew waiting for my cheese toastie listening to a Podcast when CF lady walks over.
CF: error scuse me but I always sit here.
Me: Huh
CF: Yeh everyday at this time.
Me: okay well I was here first so....
CF: Are you gonna move.
Me: Errm now let me think ....... no.
Put my ear phones back in while she starts blethering on about the table. She even sort of place marked the table by placing two fingers on it.
I just keep shrugging pointing at other free tables and saying " sorry can't hear you". She slams he tray down on the next table and then sits there aaaaaallllll through eating staring and sort of making grouchy noises. WTAF can't stop giggling now but I didn't give her so much as a sideways glance brazened it out to the end then drank my tea slowly 😏. If ou fancy, leave an entitled CF story here they are never boring!

@MrsRobinsonsHandprints - what is the post that Lemonlady has about a CF?

@Woobeedoo

This happened during one of the lockdowns, when shops were open but limiting customers so you’d have to form a big ‘theme park’ queue outside.

Anyhoo. I’m number 6 in the queue for a homewares shop, waiting patiently when two women brazenly slide up next to me then step in front. They then started making comments to each other “Ooo you’re so awful, one day someone’ll slap you for doing that” “the bitch wouldn’t dare” etc whilst looking behind at me. I had nowhere else to be, I was outnumbered and knew I’d get a mouthful of abuse from them if I did say anything.

The queue moves forwards, it’s now just them ahead of me when suddenly a seagull that was sitting on the shops awning takes off and does a full arse release all over one of the women. She had hair down to her bum and it was covered.

They were then allowed in to the shop. A few minutes later I was allowed in too to see both women trying to wipe a world of seagull sh1t out of her hair with antibac spray and blue trolley wipe tissues.

I smiled at them as I saw them to be greeted with “Are you fcking laughing at me?!”. Usually I’d get tongue tied and flustered but fate really must’ve been smiling on me that day as I replied “Yes, because if you hadn’t queue jumped me I’d* be the one wiping shit out of my hair”.

I then did my shop insanely fast as my bravado left me and I got the fear they’d follow me and lamp me one.

This is honestly the best thing I have ever read on Mumsnet. Karma's a bitch!

@Woobeedoo - that's brilliant!!! Go Seagulls!!!!!!!

@MrsRobinsonsHandprints

It doesn't matter what another person with or without a MH issue or ND would have done or been able to do. This person wanted to sit at a unremarkable table. If it was the best view or the only one left then yes they are almost certainly a cf , but to want to sit at a unremarkable one?

This isn't standing up to a cf, this is crowing and expecting praise for standing up to someone who has issues.
So big clap op, hope you feel BIG and PROUD, you 'taught them that they needed to learn a coping mechanism' it's not 'enabling cf behaviour' it's being decent.

How do you know that the woman in question wasn't just a rude twat?

I'm autistic by the way. Sure I like to sit in certain places on buses, in pubs etc. but in life that's not always possible. You can't always have what you want.

To be clear, it's not OP's lady's rudeness that makes her seem like she might not be neurotypical. NT and ND are equally likely to be rude or polite, selfish or considerate. It is her unexplained fixation with table 8 - could be sensory sensitivity, even superstition (8 is the Chinese lucky number) or something else, we don't know. Could be a simple explanation like it's nearest a warm radiator, we dont know.

No one ever said "she's rude so must be autistic". Some people have put these words into my and other's mouths.

Agree with mummy it's the fact it is unremarkable that is the reason it seems different to a cf. I still find it saddening that some people have taken offence to the fact that I think it is appropriate to consider a NT reason just because they are capable of not doing this.
I live with a NT person there are plenty of things they should, and people with the condition could, do but they can't. Thankfully I find most people are not cf and realise that certain behaviours are beyond them.

lookits Lemony posted just above my reply about a neighbour who wanted to make her house into a semi detached. That's a cf. The bird shit post were clearly cf.
A post where the op is snide and congratulatory over holding her ground on a unremarkable table just seems tasteless.

I’ve told this story under a different name but, what the hell. This is also a condensed version. We were in our office at home when we heard a chain saw/angle grinder noise. We looked out an our neighbour was cutting off the edge of our patio!! The backstory was that he was having an extension and had removed the party wall, fine. He wanted to encroach onto our land to build drainage= not fine. He just did it anyway!! When I told him to stop he called me an DH a variety of obscenities including ‘fat’ ‘possessive of our land’ 🤔’weirdos’ ‘twats’ and said ‘they’d never wanted us here’

Then…his missus emailed me complaining that we were making them feel like criminals when all they were doing was trying to have a bigger house….YES BY STEALING SOME OF OUR LAND AND DESTROYING OUR PATIO.

Funny thing is, we took them to court. The extension didn’t have the proper planning permission so he had to rip it down, he also had to pay to have our patio repaired and £500 in compo.

There were a lot of glares and we now don’t live there.

Most recent one in my mind was at Christmas last year. An older couple who pulled up at the electric car charger at the services after us, insisting that they had been there first and that we needed to unplug and move away to let them go first. She jumped right out her car and marched up to me shouting the odds . There had been an empty space when we arrived and no cars in the vicinity so I couldn't believe the cheek! When I was younger I wouldn't have said boo to a goose but one benefit of my advancing years is that I'm less like to let people away with that kind of sh#te anymore so I told her we were going nowhere and she'd have to wait her turn. She then turned on her heel, had the audacity to call ME a f4cking maniac (In front of my young kids - charming) and stormed off with her knickers in a twist. Served her right, merry Christmas you filthy animal 😜

I am autistic and hate change. I also tend to go to the same table etc in cafes as anything else feels ‘wrong’. However that is only if the table is free. I still think she was being a CF and good on OP. She may have been autistic or had some other reason however more likely she was just a rude twat. Many people with autism wouldn’t dream of being this rude and entitled.

Explonding now that is a cf story with a satisfying ending.

Many people with autism wouldn’t dream of being this rude and entitled. I'm not sure how people feel comfortable talking for all, plus it could be anything NT or MH or whatever. I

@incognitoforthisone

What happened to being kind?

As someone who is a) neurodiverse and b) has a mental health condition, I'm afraid I take exception to the idea that these things are the default explanation for the kind of rudeness described the OP.

Contrary to Mumsnet's apparent belief, most of us who function with weirdly wired brain are absolutely no more likely to behave like an arsehole than people who are neurotypical.

Agree with this completely. Mumsnet’s response to anyone behaving like a twat seems to be to suggest they are autistic. Rude person in shop = autistic, abusive husband = autistic etc. I know many autistic people and most are kind, empathetic and perfectly able to be polite, not beat people up etc. The bias that some people on MN have against neurotypicals is upsetting and damaging to us. Neurodivergent people have often been victims of bullying and prejudice for much of their life so it would be nice if we didn’t encounter these views online too. We are not some alien species, we just have extra needs/ difficulties due to our disability.

@MrsRobinsonsHandprints - WOW!! how did I miss that in my speed reading of the thread!!???!!!
@Lemonlady22 - are they still your neighbours or have they moved on?

@MrsRobinsonsHandprints

Explonding now that is a cf story with a satisfying ending.

Many people with autism wouldn’t dream of being this rude and entitled. I'm not sure how people feel comfortable talking for all, plus it could be anything NT or MH or whatever. I

I wasn’t talking for all, in fact I was very careful to say ‘many’ people, which still allows for the fact that there probably are some autistics who also happen to be twats. That is the very opposite of ‘talking for all.’ I guess you haven’t noticed some of the prejudice autistics experience regularly on MN or you would understand my statement

I'm not quite sure why people assume some sort of diagnosis due rude and entitled behaviour. There are people in this world who are just rude and entitled and why should I shift when someone treats me like this? I'll not be walked all over, it's not like a rushed to the table to get there before her she was a good five minutes after me and I was sat with my brew. She didn't ask nicely, it is not self congratulatory I just ignored her silliness. She is a grown adult.

When we came out of the first lockdown and all the shops reopened and the 2 meter rule was in place …

I was entering Primark in a large shopping centre, and we had to queue to get in. There were multiple spots/large stickers on the floor to indicate where you stand.

I joined the back of the queue and stood on a spot. There were 2 women (I assumed they were sisters. They were talking a different language and looked identical) who both had 3/4 kids with them.

Anyway one of the women and her 3 kids came and stood on the same spot I was on and her sister and 4 kids stood on the one behind.

A security guard came over and screamed “ONE FAMILY PER SPOT. MOVE TO THE BACK OF THE QUEUE”.

I politely turned to the woman and said, “Sorry I was in this spot first. Would you be able to stand with your sister?” She looked me up and down and shook her head. Then started laughing and saying something in her language to her sister.

I didn’t move. The security guard came back over and screamed at me again “ONE FAMILY PER SPOT. MOVE”.

A woman who was on the spot infront of me shouted “Oh she’s with me” and gestured for me to join her spot with her OH.

I said Thankyou so much and stood at the side of her. Because was I hell going to the back of the queue which had started to get long.

I only wanted socks😂. Was I the CF or were the sisters who were clearly together? I know this sounds pathetic but I know.

@Mummy1608

To be clear, it's not OP's lady's rudeness that makes her seem like she might not be neurotypical. NT and ND are equally likely to be rude or polite, selfish or considerate. It is her unexplained fixation with table 8 - could be sensory sensitivity, even superstition (8 is the Chinese lucky number) or something else, we don't know. Could be a simple explanation like it's nearest a warm radiator, we dont know.

No one ever said "she's rude so must be autistic". Some people have put these words into my and other's mouths.

Or could be a CF, stop digging FFS.

I was queueing in a supermarket. The bloke behind me walks round me and goes to the self service till as I start moving towards it. He then looked all surprised when staff was questioned him on his queue jumping logic. Apparently disabled people don’t use self serve. A couple of items glitched. He ended up taking ages to get through the tills. I didn’t!

I was at the theatre at the weekend (The Guilty Feminist- highly recommended). In the interval someone tried to jump the queue of 10+ people at the bar.
She told me with a laugh in her voice like I was being ridiculous that she was just finding a spot at the bar as normal. I stood my ground that this blatantly wasn’t a normal pub situation and she gave up.

@MrsRobinsonsHandprints

Explonding now that is a cf story with a satisfying ending.

Many people with autism wouldn’t dream of being this rude and entitled. I'm not sure how people feel comfortable talking for all, plus it could be anything NT or MH or whatever. I

Definitely 😆 Honestly, if this hasn’t happened to me I wouldn’t have believed it. It’s like something you read in the Daily Mail or Take a Break. It was the email from the missus that was the cherry on top. Honestly, if they didn’t want to feel like criminals then stop acting like them!!

I had one of these are the airport. Turned up at the gate just as the last person from my boarding group was walking through to the gate. Tradition in the US is that you can move past people in lower boarding groups if you are late so I walked through to board. Man at front of group 2, stops me and says excuse me there is a line..I politely say I'm boarding group 1 so joining the back of that line. He looks me up and down - granted it's an early Sunday flight, I've been working for a week straight and I'm wearing a tracksuit and my hair is unwashed so I'm not your typical group 1 customer - and says are you sure?? I say yes. He says you should be here on time and I respond I think my timing was perfect as I didn't have to line up for 30 minutes. By now steam is coming out of his ears so I say please go ahead of me. We do have assigned seats so it's no matter to me when I get on. His wife is pulling his arm telling him quietly to stop being an idiot and the guy on the gate is hiding a giggle. He refuses, I say again are you sure? Ok then, have a lovely flight and settle down in my very comfortable seat with tonnes of leg room that i didn't pay for.

On holiday in France we booked a boat ride, got to the embarkation place 20 minutes early and queued to get on the boat (we were about 10th in the queue). When we got on, we found a pair of nice seats that offered an uninterrupted view of the scenery, and sat down, wanting to take photos. One of the last people to get on the boat, about 15 minutes after us, asked us to move because he wanted to sit there, and he was most put out when we politely replied “No, we were here first”

@newyorker74

I had one of these are the airport. Turned up at the gate just as the last person from my boarding group was walking through to the gate. Tradition in the US is that you can move past people in lower boarding groups if you are late so I walked through to board. Man at front of group 2, stops me and says excuse me there is a line..I politely say I'm boarding group 1 so joining the back of that line. He looks me up and down - granted it's an early Sunday flight, I've been working for a week straight and I'm wearing a tracksuit and my hair is unwashed so I'm not your typical group 1 customer - and says are you sure?? I say yes. He says you should be here on time and I respond I think my timing was perfect as I didn't have to line up for 30 minutes. By now steam is coming out of his ears so I say please go ahead of me. We do have assigned seats so it's no matter to me when I get on. His wife is pulling his arm telling him quietly to stop being an idiot and the guy on the gate is hiding a giggle. He refuses, I say again are you sure? Ok then, have a lovely flight and settle down in my very comfortable seat with tonnes of leg room that i didn't pay for.

Sorry, I dont understand.

Why didnt you pay for the leg room?

I'm not quite sure why people assume some sort of diagnosis due rude and entitled behaviour.

People are suggesting that there is probably something more (not necessarily autism) to this than just feeling entitled because there is no other likely explanation why it would be so important for someone to sit at a specific table at a set time every day if there is nothing special about that table and there were plenty of other tables available.

All the other CF stories on this thread have very obvious motivations for why the CF was a CF.

@MrsRobinsonsHandprints

A post where the op is snide and congratulatory over holding her ground on a unremarkable table just seems tasteless

Tasteless to you, maybe, but if you bothered to read the OP she was waiting for her food to be delivered to that table. Why should she move??

My company paid!! One of the perks is a business class seat so much more leg room.. and the ability to board late ;)