Table 8 CF

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Just stopped at Morrisons for a cheese toastie and sat down at table 8. A very unremarkable table not near a window or any interesting features of note. Sat happily drinking my brew waiting for my cheese toastie listening to a Podcast when CF lady walks over.
CF: error scuse me but I always sit here.
Me: Huh
CF: Yeh everyday at this time.
Me: okay well I was here first so....
CF: Are you gonna move.
Me: Errm now let me think ....... no.
Put my ear phones back in while she starts blethering on about the table. She even sort of place marked the table by placing two fingers on it.
I just keep shrugging pointing at other free tables and saying " sorry can't hear you". She slams he tray down on the next table and then sits there aaaaaallllll through eating staring and sort of making grouchy noises. WTAF can't stop giggling now but I didn't give her so much as a sideways glance brazened it out to the end then drank my tea slowly 😏. If ou fancy, leave an entitled CF story here they are never boring!

I wouldn't have moved either but I would have been very confused.

To everyone saying this person was autistic. Yes that crossed my mind BUT surely if they had table 8 everyday at that time then the cafe staff would be very aware and would either have put a reserved tag on the table or come over to help and explain. That would be more normal imo

I'm also raising eyebrows at people saying "I have autisim/mh conditions but I would never do this, don't tar us all with that brush". These conditions are incredibly diverse and different people with autism would behave very differently from others. Of course not all people with autism would behave like op's lady. But that doesn't mean op's lady isnt autistic!

I used to own a restaurant and people would do this daily. The amount of fucking arguments I had to sort out because ‘I always sit here’ was something else! Now, unless the entire village had moderate functioning autism I doubt that is the only explanation.

Is it not a bit rude for people to assume that cos someone’s acts rude they have autism or mental health problems? I have bipolar and I don’t act like a fucking tit so it’s a bit rude that people attribute bad behaviour to it

Am I the only person wondering if the CF would have eaten the toastie you ordered when it turned up at table 8????

FFS. I am so bored of people derailing otherwise funny threads by insisting the cf must be neurodiverse thus creating a very boring ensuing argument.

Op - good for you for standing your ground. This woman was likely just a cf. Now can we please have other cf examples. I especially liked extension cf

I wouldnt have moved either OP.

Event at a library for kids.
I got there picked a book and sat on the end of a sofa while my son went to do join in with other kids.
Two ladies came in and sat next to me on the sofa.
Two little girls came over to me and said excuse me we want to sit with our mums so can you move .
I turned to look at their mothers who were now smiling at me,heads tilted....
I turned back to the girls and said NO

@cleanasawhistle

I wouldnt have moved either OP.

Event at a library for kids.
I got there picked a book and sat on the end of a sofa while my son went to do join in with other kids.
Two ladies came in and sat next to me on the sofa.
Two little girls came over to me and said excuse me we want to sit with our mums so can you move .
I turned to look at their mothers who were now smiling at me,heads tilted....
I turned back to the girls and said NO

Was the head tilt accompanied with a tinkly laugh as well?

@Mummy1608

I'm also raising eyebrows at people saying "I have autisim/mh conditions but I would never do this, don't tar us all with that brush". These conditions are incredibly diverse and different people with autism would behave very differently from others. Of course not all people with autism would behave like op's lady. But that doesn't mean op's lady isnt autistic!

Raise your eyebrows all you want. But if you don’t understand why what you’ve said is offensive then you’re just yet another of the neurotypically privileged who doesn’t have the empathy to see what might be offensive to those of on the autistic spectrum.

Every bit of rude/unusual/aggressive behaviour is always put down to autism by someone on here and it really jars. I have to adapt to your work every day, please be a little more considerate.

@cleanasawhistle

I wouldnt have moved either OP.

Event at a library for kids.
I got there picked a book and sat on the end of a sofa while my son went to do join in with other kids.
Two ladies came in and sat next to me on the sofa.
Two little girls came over to me and said excuse me we want to sit with our mums so can you move .
I turned to look at their mothers who were now smiling at me,heads tilted....
I turned back to the girls and said NO

I remember this from another thread. I expect little Amelia and Abigail were spirited little girls who had been told from day dot that they are Princesses and more important than the rest of us riff raff. What happened after you said no?

@emuloc no tinkly laugh but I got the impression that they did actually expect me to move .

If my son had come over and spoken to them like that I would have told him off

Was she an older lady by chance?

@Cheeseandlobster

I just put my head back in the book and ignored them.
They certainly didnt say anything to me

I wonder if we live in the same town as pretty much exactly the same thing happened to me in a Morrisons cafe a few months ago! We didn’t move either, sadly I can’t remember the table number

Oh, when I get one of those aggressive queue bargers , I just do a big “after you madam” curtsy/bow gesture & say, really loudly “Age before beauty!”. That irks them no end 😀

[quote RedWreck]@CounsellorTroi, that didn't take long now did it. Calm down, I'm just adding description.
Sorry if that mortally offends you not[/quote]
Surely they were just older than @Redwreck.... who could be 23 and they felt this human was 26... hence older?.... 🤔

Do you know what is really damaging to autistic people as a group?

When people go on MN and excuse just poor behaviour with ‘they might be autistic’. Neurodiversity is not an excuse to be a dick. Nor does neurodiversity mean you’ll behave like one. But for some reason constant speculation about autism on here ever further associates the two.

Demanding someone else’s table in a cafe is not ok. That’s a well established social rule that we all live by.

@mummy1608

It's the automatic assumption that when someone is behaving in a rude or unusual manner that they might be autistic that is the problem.

You are right, every person who is autistic is different and so it is even more demeaning and insulting to leap to that conclusion whenever you see examples of what you might class as CFery. It's as likely that the person was NT as ND and it's wrong to make these assumptions.

There are endless possibilities as to why the lady behaved like that. Autism isn't the most likely/only option.

In your shoes OP, I would have moved and offered to pay for whatever she was having then I'd have taken her round Morrisons and paid for her shopping and given her a lift home, unpacked her stuff then made her a lovely cup of tea before leaving.
You were very rude wink

You sound like a wonderfully compassionate human being, think of all the social credit you'll get when you post about it on social media.

[quote TibetanTerrah]@SpringsSprung then she should have asked, not just assumed she could push in front when the PP had already unloaded her shopping.

Its amazing that CFs expect strangers to be polite and accommodating when they usually have a face like a slapped arse themselves and are demanding and entitled.

Its also amazing the amount of posters here think you should #bekind when the CF is clearly following the philosophy of #berude[/quote]
Thank you! The lady was older than me but not elderly, IYSWIM. No problem with letting people through, or even volunteering to let people through if I see they've only got a few bits but it was her attitude that stank.

So from that interaction, yeah she's a CF. Didn't even ask nicely for the OP to move. It's a rude way to approach people. I certainly wouldn't have moved for someone who didn't even say please. I don't know if I'd even have moved if they had. If you ask someone to move and they say no, that's that. In a public setting like that, there is no assigned seats, so why on earth should anyone move.

Maybe but Autistic or not, the world does not revolve around them and they need to learn coping mechanisms for that fact

Absolutely true. You can be an entitled twat AND autistic. I have a set parking space at most places I go. Do I make people move out of them? No. I drive around aimlessly like a loon until I shake myself and park in any other space.

I really want a cheese toastie now.

Extra onion & tomato, chilli cheese.

@JoyDivisionOvenGlovesx

I really want a cheese toastie now.

Extra onion & tomato, chilli cheese.

And Worcestershire sauce!!

This happened during one of the lockdowns, when shops were open but limiting customers so you’d have to form a big ‘theme park’ queue outside.

Anyhoo. I’m number 6 in the queue for a homewares shop, waiting patiently when two women brazenly slide up next to me then step in front. They then started making comments to each other “Ooo you’re so awful, one day someone’ll slap you for doing that” “the bitch wouldn’t dare” etc whilst looking behind at me. I had nowhere else to be, I was outnumbered and knew I’d get a mouthful of abuse from them if I did say anything.

The queue moves forwards, it’s now just them ahead of me when suddenly a seagull that was sitting on the shops awning takes off and does a full arse release all over one of the women. She had hair down to her bum and it was covered.

They were then allowed in to the shop. A few minutes later I was allowed in too to see both women trying to wipe a world of seagull sh1t out of her hair with antibac spray and blue trolley wipe tissues.

I smiled at them as I saw them to be greeted with “Are you fcking laughing at me?!”. Usually I’d get tongue tied and flustered but fate really must’ve been smiling on me that day as I replied “Yes, because if you hadn’t queue jumped me I’d* be the one wiping shit out of my hair”.

I then did my shop insanely fast as my bravado left me and I got the fear they’d follow me and lamp me one.

@Scautish I'm not neurotypical and you are very rude. I've had friends who have been through psychosis and who would have done similar stuff to op's "cf". "MH conditions" is an incredibly broad term and could cover all sorts of things.

Frankly I can't see a motive why a NT cheeky f'er would want to sit on table 8 rather than another table unless it has a window, comfy chairs etc. It's not like jumping a queue.