Page 7 | Panorama( Young families Struggling)

dottydodah · 2022-04-12T10:12:08+00:00

Did anyone see this last evening? A lady with 2 small DC and a husband working as a Research Scientist was struggling with bills .Another young Mum in tears as her energy bill was so high.A third lady (working as a Nurse) not able to run a car. How will they manage to keep going? Surely Govt could do more?

Alwayssupportingdifference · 12/04/2022 20:20

@TheNoonBell

We are bankrupt as a country. We have spunked it all on increased benefits and vanity projects for the last 25 years backed by massive borrowing. Now times are bad there is nothing left in the kitty and soon no one will lend to us. Worse still our gold reserves were sold off for pennies (thanks Gordon Brown) and we have promised an awful lot of people very generous government job pensions.

A fifth of working age adults are economically inactive and we have the highest disability rates on the planet.

We are completely Donald Ducked and it is going to get a lot worse before it gets better. The government won't be able to help you and it will go after any assets you have so expect to see taxes rise even more.

That's interesting re the disability rate being the highest. Can I ask the source for this comment? And do you think there is something in our population that drives this or that we classify disability differently?

Not just a question for you but in general as I hadn't heard this before.

orangeisthenewpuce · 12/04/2022 20:43

I only saw a bit of this last night. I thought the nurse's children all looked in their teens. If so, why does she need childcare? I'm aware I've probably got this wrong.

mydogisthebest · 12/04/2022 20:44

@moimichme

Right, so if someone were to have one child and then twins, they didn't 'plan' their life sufficiently well and deserve whatever bad happens to them, and the kids. Got it. /sarcasm

Oh don't be so stupid. Of course if the 2nd child is twins or even triplets or more that is different.

mydogisthebest · 12/04/2022 20:57

[quote foxster22]@mydogisthebest 'craze for 3 children'
Wtf ? I have 3. Hardly anyone has 3 or more now, 3 is the 1990s '4'

In London I'd say it's 40% 1 child 48% 2 child
2% 3 children (never met anyone in London with

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 12/04/2022 21:02

@orangeisthenewpuce

I only saw a bit of this last night. I thought the nurse's children all looked in their teens. If so, why does she need childcare? I'm aware I've probably got this wrong.

Depends she might work nights and require childcare or long shifts where you couldn’t leave say an 11 year old for the full amount of time. Not enough info.

Carriemac · 12/04/2022 21:06

She was a radiology nurse - only worked three days a week. She could
Massively increase her income by doing few weekend bank shifts a month - that's not a criticism as I don't kn ow her circumstances but we are crying out for her skills at my trust

Babyroobs · 12/04/2022 21:11

@Carriemac

She was a radiology nurse - only worked three days a week. She could Massively increase her income by doing few weekend bank shifts a month - that's not a criticism as I don't kn ow her circumstances but we are crying out for her skills at my trust

Yes but seemingly she didn't have an ex on the scene to help with childcare at weekends ? There isn't an abundance of weekend childcare unless she had relatives who could help.

kerrypeeper · 12/04/2022 21:12

Look at all the celebs who have 3.

Why on earth do you think celebs are representative of the rest of the population?

Dairymilk50 · 12/04/2022 21:12

@Carriemac

She was a radiology nurse - only worked three days a week. She could Massively increase her income by doing few weekend bank shifts a month - that's not a criticism as I don't kn ow her circumstances but we are crying out for her skills at my trust

She had 3 kids though. It didn't look as though she had much support any where. I think 30 hours is enough. I don't know what it is with British culture is, that once your kids hit teens you can leave them at home.

Yes for a evening or if your really stuck. But I personally think that's what's wrong with today's generation of kids!

Carriemac · 12/04/2022 21:18

I agree 30 hours is enough with three kids but not being able to afford shoes or enough food for the kids? Weekend overtime would be really worth her while

Dairymilk50 · 12/04/2022 21:22

Have you read the full thread? It's swings and round abouts. It was a short programme pointless in fact. It didn't explain how she was struggling so much maybe she wasn't applying for all benefits? I don't know.

But I stand by my comment.. in the eyes of the law if anything happened to her kids it would fall on her legally, as they are kids.

vickyc90 · 12/04/2022 21:24

How old are the nurses kids? In the daily mail article they look old enough to get themselves home until mam finishes work. She could pick up bank shift doing 7:30am-7:30pm 3 days a week which would be 36 hours so nearly full time.

We have two good salaries, we stuck with one child as we could comfortably afford it. As soon as he starts secondary school he will be getting himself home from school.

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 12/04/2022 21:33

@vickyc90

How old are the nurses kids? In the daily mail article they look old enough to get themselves home until mam finishes work. She could pick up bank shift doing 7:30am-7:30pm 3 days a week which would be 36 hours so nearly full time.

We have two good salaries, we stuck with one child as we could comfortably afford it. As soon as he starts secondary school he will be getting himself home from school.

Not every 11yr old may be comfortable or able AS SOON as they start secondary- depends on the route- depends on many factors. My god the judgement on a snippet of information on this woman’s life “Oh we stuck at one” “Oh we stuck at two” Anyone can struggle, even with no kids people struggle. No empathy is exactly why these fuckers of a government get away with doing nothing to help people.

kerrypeeper · 12/04/2022 21:41

No empathy is exactly why these fuckers of a government get away with doing nothing to help people.

This

MissyB1 · 12/04/2022 21:41

@vickyc90

How old are the nurses kids? In the daily mail article they look old enough to get themselves home until mam finishes work. She could pick up bank shift doing 7:30am-7:30pm 3 days a week which would be 36 hours so nearly full time.

We have two good salaries, we stuck with one child as we could comfortably afford it. As soon as he starts secondary school he will be getting himself home from school.

So you want her kids to be latchkey kids waiting till 7:30 till their mam gets home.

Yeah I was that kid - I can tell you it was miserable.

Carriemac · 12/04/2022 21:52

Three days a week , It's not ideal but she needs to bring in more money those kids are hungry .

MsJinks · 12/04/2022 21:54

Everyone sorting out the lives of those on Panorama like that means there isn’t really a cost of living crisis.
Alternatively it’s fine to live like we did 100 years ago and we should get on with it.
Take a look at what’s happening here - all finding a reason it’s not the government’s/important people’s fault - used to be just single parents, unemployed and immigrants got sidelined and slated - it’s now incorporating couples who don’t plan well enough, people in professions who don’t work unsocial hours enough, - it’s near on suggesting a much despised Chinese policy - what next? Anyway this ‘look at them not us policy’ clearly works 😞

Dairymilk50 · 12/04/2022 21:58

These programmes are a bit gas lightning. There's people with 3 kids and in a lower paid role than a nurse. Something wasn't right. Those shoes wasn't walkable was she sending her daughter to shoes in that poor condition?. I don't even believe it tbh. Kids feet grow too so not like adults where you can think the daughter has been wearing them years

Getyourarseofffthequattro · 12/04/2022 22:02

@Carriemac

Three days a week , It's not ideal but she needs to bring in more money those kids are hungry .

Ah yes if only she'd considered that!

Blossomtoes · 12/04/2022 22:04

Yes, it’s much easier to believe it’s all made up than acknowledge the way some people are suffering in this allegedly civilised country. And this is just the beginning.

DdraigGoch · 12/04/2022 22:23

@Blossomtoes

Thing is that my dad was born in a mining community in 1916. He and his many cousins didn’t go hungry. It’s unbelievable that it’s worse now than it was then.

Pretty sure that lots of people were going hungry during his childhood, especially those in mining communities. He'd have grown up through the General Strike and the Great Depression. Even in normal economic circumstances, getting injured at work could mean impoverishment for your family. So let's take off the rose-tinted spectacles.

Blossomtoes · 12/04/2022 22:26

He was always very keen to tell us how fortunate we were and how privileged our childhoods compared with his. He’d definitely have let us know if he hadn’t had enough to eat. Regardless of whether others went hungry, he didn’t.

Kate0902900908 · 12/04/2022 22:37

My sister works a government job, has 3 children and widowed. She’s is and is going to really struggle. Me and husband are very fortunate to be ok (for now) but you never know. It’s absolutely shocking the cost of everything our gas and electricity is now £230 a month! We live in an apartment but work from home.

Porcupineintherough · 12/04/2022 22:41

Well there's a lot of different stuff mixed in here, isnt there?

There is a cost of living crisis.
Absent parents.
Childcare costs.
People making poor decisions about their lives.
Disability
Poor mental health.
Etc, etc

So deciding how to tackle the resulting these ^^ which is poverty, is also complex. It's not as simple as "parents in poverty need to do X", nor is it simply a case of opening the check book.

Keepitonthedownlow · 12/04/2022 22:52

Single people both with and without kids are screwed. One income is hard.