Rishi Sunak’s wife is NOT elected OR in a public role but she is a woman

[BigGreenSpacehopper]

Have you noticed that Zac Goldsmith (elected), Mark Carney (role of significance to all of us as Govenor of the Bank of England), 4th Viscount Rothmere (controlling shareholder and Chair of the Daily Mail) all have non Dom status but no mention is really made. However, a woman, who has no public role, has never said anything public, is being criticised for her non Dom status?

And yes she’s getting massive dividends but I imagine as it’s family money there is a massive pre-nup in place so it’s not like Rishi will be able to run off with it!

Her pffer to pay is meaningless drivel. It is hastily concocted PR damage limitation. It is arrogantly worded. What it is really communicating is that she does not want the plebs following her scent and she is chucking them a dime to leave her alone.

Taxation law is enormously complex (as well as dull) and social inequality is cemented into it's very foundations. She has not broken the law, she is not being coerced and she will rearrange her assets so that she will get away with paying less than you would hope, imagine or ever know.

The socialist dream of a level playing field where each pays into the pot in equal proportion to other people is more than naïve. HNWI taxation is big bank for a reason.

@StormzyinaTCup

Stop with this delusional view of the world.

What's delusional?

It is delusional to think that the our political leaders would aspire to set high standards in their lives and that they should contribute to society and follow the laws that everyone else has to follow.

Those who really care about equality and societal outcomes are usually unheard, badly paid and hidden in the depths of the grassroots.

Politics is all about the spectacle and about gaining power for it's own sake above all else.

Social agendas are promoted as currency within the game which may be replaced by other currencies in due course, depending upon what is advantageous to the preservation of one's own status within the hierarchy. In Boris' favour, he doesn't really mask the fact that he is playing a game. His performances are not Oscar worthy a la Blair.

The socialist dream of a level playing field where each pays into the pot in equal proportion to other people is more than naïve. HNWI taxation is big bank for a reason

Yes, that's delusional and never ever going to happen .

@C8H10N4O2

It is racism, what the 'left' are actually trying to dogwhistle is that the Sunaks are not really british, or that he should have control over her income

Akshata Murty is not British and has no intention of ever being so. She wants to retain her Indian citizenship and has declared every year to HMRC that this is not her permanent home. Simultaneously she and Sunak both held green cards requiring them to state the US as their home.

Everyone working in financial services has to declare openly all their financial interests including the interests of spouses and immediate families. That is how important it is. Some of the increased scrutiny is a direct result of the 2008 crash, triggered by casino banking and asset stripping by organisations such as TCI (partner, one Rishi Sunak). Murty was involved in more than one company which has gone west including with large amounts of furlough money.

Note that Murty has not stated she will give up non dom status but just she will pay UK taxes which ensures her wealth will not be subject to inheritance tax.

The Murtys are spending a lot of money to get their man in number ten. Not sure replacing a PM in the pocket of Russian oligarchs with a PM in the pocket of Indian oligarchs is a net gain.

My view is that Murty (and InfoSys) want Sunak in power so he can make it easier for wealthy Indians to make money in the UK.

If you think about it, watering down visa rules so that they can have an army of lower paid Indian analysts in the UK (under-cutting everybody else) is very similar to what they do in the US now (they massively abuse the H-1B Visa process).

@Soffit

Her pffer to pay is meaningless drivel. It is hastily concocted PR damage limitation. It is arrogantly worded. What it is really communicating is that she does not want the plebs following her scent and she is chucking them a dime to leave her alone.

Taxation law is enormously complex (as well as dull) and social inequality is cemented into it's very foundations. She has not broken the law, she is not being coerced and she will rearrange her assets so that she will get away with paying less than you would hope, imagine or ever know.

The socialist dream of a level playing field where each pays into the pot in equal proportion to other people is more than naïve. HNWI taxation is big bank for a reason.

This x 100

My bet is she routes her Indian income via Mauritius, and then washes it through several more nebulous tax jursidictions in the South Pacific and Carribean.

Her effective tax rate in that income is probably low single digits of %.

Pathetic really. Am quite happy she is being skewered because its precisely stuff like this that reduces tax revenues at a global scale (in the trillions). This is what then pushes up poverty via "austerity".

Am also sick and tired of the lack of morals and ethics in these people. They pretend to be upstanding moral citizens to the media, but behind closed doors they are largely people with poor character and no real sense of community. Just in it for themselves. I find this disconnect disgusting.

It is racism, what the 'left' are actually trying to dogwhistle is that the Sunaks are not really british, or that he should have control over her income

Oh have a for this old bollocks aimed at 'the left' - it is the Brexity bastards who have gone on for years about immigrants and the children of immigrants and the children of the children of the children of immigrants not being really British.

It was the Tories themselves who said this arrangement was correct because she is Indian.

Make your bloody mind up - if she is British, fine. If she is Indian, fine. If she is both, fine. But stop changing the bloody story every day for political expediency! The public are not stupid.

I have no doubt some racists will be more angered

But it’s not racist to believe that the wife or husband of the chancellor shouldn’t have non dom status given that the role has a personal impact on their finances

It’s a choice

Still interesting why now

@StormzyinaTCup

Public attention has been drawn to that fact that the Chancellor of the Exchequer's personal and familial affairs are structured in a way that indicates he and his family don't see their future in the UK. It's torpedoed his chances of being PM, there's no way the party would want to go into a GE having a candidate so easy to paint as out of touch.

Maybe they don't see their future in the U.K. long term. I expect she is doing what a lot of other spouses do if their partner's job is in another country, they stay and make a life here until that job is no more and then go back to her home country where she can be nearer to her mum and dad. Possibly she has agreed to pay U.K.taxes as she knows it's short term.

I judge someone on the job they do at the time they are doing it not how long a commitment they plan on giving to the country. He had a 60% approval rating and was the most popular Chancellor for 15 years when he was giving money away. That is when the rumours started about him being PM but I'm not sure it's what he wants for himself and his family and I wouldn't blame him.

Yes absolutely, maybe they don't see their family's future in the UK in the long term. Precisely my point.

On the second paragraph, how you judge someone is your prerogative but not of any relevance or interest to anyone else. And he isn't going to have a 60% approval rating now! This has been very damaging to him, which is the fundamental point here. Whoever leaked this did it with that in mind and has succeeded.

Yes I agree it was deliberately leaked and it was done very well.

But I think the line goes 'if youhave nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear'. The US green card issue is extremely and I am pleased it is now public.

@carefullycourageous

Yes I agree it was deliberately leaked and it was done very well.

But I think the line goes 'if youhave nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear'. The US green card issue is extremely and I am pleased it is now public.

But Clav says we don't know why he had a green card so it is all ok.

I don't think this is a sexism thing at all. I think it's the fact he's not just in government, he's the chancellor, AND has raised taxes at the time when cost of living is soaring (and done fuck all about that) which means so many more people are being pushed into crushing poverty, whilst making these cynical bullshit attempts to try and say he's like us, he gets it (ludicrous PR stunt pretending to fill up a Kia...) when in actual fact he hasn't a clue what the average person is facing. Frankly I think it's gross and his position is untenable (not that that stops the Tories - self first, party second, country last). No one is saying it's not legal, but is it morally ok? Personally I don't think so at all.

It is very sad to look back on how much money was wasted on Track & Trace, crony contracts and furlough fraud in 2021 in the light of the fact that it was all rubber-stamped by a person who had already forgone his emotional attachment to this country and the electorate.
He over shook and then uprooted the money tree with the callous clinical bravado of a juvenile gaming addict. He always justified his actions by claiming that we were living in unprecedented times but in actual fact, he was casually throwing billions away while claiming that no future accountability would be possible, using the same excuse about it being a unique chapter in history blah blah.

For a long time, Tory HQ were propping up his public image of being an affable, boy wonder who had no interest in a slice of the pie for himself. Perhaps it gradually dawned on them that he was actually a puppet of a much more powerful global machine that was planning to sell them down the river. I think he will go down as the worst chancellor of all time.

According to his ' About Me' page, he studied at Stanford University and lived and worked in the US and met his wife in California.

@JaniieJones

I'm not sure what folk are so riled about. She pays tax in this country on her uk income, she pays tax in India on her income there.

The fact they are rich is irrelevant, I can understand people are jealous but it all reeks of racism and misogyny and the fact is it's all legal.

Sunak has had to make tough financial decisions because we've just paid lots of people's wages in furlough for 2yrs. It's got to be repaid somehow. Do we think Mrs Sunak is responsible for the costs of the pandemic?

Frankly that's just completely disingenuous saying it's racist and/or sexist to have a problem with this. Get real.

@Soffit

It is very sad to look back on how much money was wasted on Track & Trace, crony contracts and furlough fraud in 2021 in the light of the fact that it was all rubber-stamped by a person who had already forgone his emotional attachment to this country and the electorate. He over shook and then uprooted the money tree with the callous clinical bravado of a juvenile gaming addict. He always justified his actions by claiming that we were living in unprecedented times but in actual fact, he was casually throwing billions away while claiming that no future accountability would be possible, using the same excuse about it being a unique chapter in history blah blah.

For a long time, Tory HQ were propping up his public image of being an affable, boy wonder who had no interest in a slice of the pie for himself. Perhaps it gradually dawned on them that he was actually a puppet of a much more powerful global machine that was planning to sell them down the river. I think he will go down as the worst chancellor of all time.

But if wasn't so rich he wouldn't have been able to manage our money so well.

Also but Jeremy Corbyn.

Frankly that's just completely disingenuous saying it's racist and/or sexist to have a problem with this. Get real.

I also have problems with Boris Johnson.
According to one of his ministers that he also probably misogynistic.

@StormzyinaTCup

According to his ' About Me' page, he studied at Stanford University and lived and worked in the US and met his wife in California.

As a student, he would have been on an F-1 Visa.

It does not count towards the time necessary to get permanent residency.

He worked for a minimum of 5 years in the US to be able to get his green card.

Know many finance professionals from Europe that did the same after doing MBA/Ph. D etc..

He clearly wanted to keep that avenue open to him (US Residency).

Problem is residency is not the same as nationality.

Residency is fungible and can absolutely be bought, unfortunately for the Sunaks, if you want to advance in politics, you need to commit. That means making choices.

They got caught. Now its all a damage limitation PR exercise.

I'm just saying that's how he got it, for anyone that's interested.

Non dom status is only an option for the wealthy. Removing it as an option would be the right thing to do for the country. The Chancellor makes that decision. Therefore this compromises his decision making. Nothing to do with sexism.

That said, I care less about this than I do about the government's overall approach to taxation, receipt of dirty money from characters who at best are dodgy as hell, and the ongoing sense that it is one rule for them and another for the rest. This seems a convenient distraction from Partygate and the unfolding car crash that is Ukrainian visas. Odd that Sunak's position is only now being scrutinized. Johnson really is disgusting.

On the other hand, I'm increasingly able to be angry about several things at the same time as I hit the menopause so bring it on. They all disgust me.

@carefullycourageous

Yes I agree it was deliberately leaked and it was done very well.

But I think the line goes 'if youhave nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear'. The US green card issue is extremely and I am pleased it is now public.

Yes, quite.

On the other hand, I'm increasingly able to be angry about several things at the same time

It is very generous of the government to provide us with regular opportunities to practice this.
Their generosity knows no bounds.

Rishi is a named beneficiary of the Caymen isle trust.

Virgin Islands and Cayman Islands

I suspect this has been leaked by the PM's allies. The timing has been such that he's been able to stick the knife in Sunak's ambitions while garnering personal approbation for defining a woman.