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Rishi Sunak’s wife is NOT elected OR in a public role but she is a woman

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BigGreenSpacehopper · 08/04/2022 09:05

Have you noticed that Zac Goldsmith (elected), Mark Carney (role of significance to all of us as Govenor of the Bank of England), 4th Viscount Rothmere (controlling shareholder and Chair of the Daily Mail) all have non Dom status but no mention is really made. However, a woman, who has no public role, has never said anything public, is being criticised for her non Dom status?

And yes she’s getting massive dividends but I imagine as it’s family money there is a massive pre-nup in place so it’s not like Rishi will be able to run off with it!

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Blossomtoes · 08/04/2022 22:46

Gordon Brown IS a wealthy man to the point where he can give £1.37 million away. He's worth millions and certainly wasn't short of money when he was Chancellor.

He may be worth millions now but where did he get huge amounts of money when he was chancellor? He was a lecturer and journalist before he became an MP. You said:

People with experience of handling huge sums of money are invariably better placed to handle larger sums of money. The opposite is true - if a person is not experienced, they will invariably fare badly

That’s clearly not the case with Brown. He was one of the best chancellors we’ve ever had - without that experience.

Silverclocks · 08/04/2022 22:48

As far as I know Gordon Brown never claimed non dom status...there's nothing wrong with being wealthy, we need successful people in these roles, but they should pay their taxes.

DingleyDel · 08/04/2022 22:52

This screams 2 things to me.

  1. Sunak is very naive. Whether the leak came from the left or the right (and I think we all know those closer to home would be more likely to know their tax affairs) is irrelevant. He should have known this would be used against him.
  1. The Sunak’s were not intending to stay in the U.K. for too long. It seems very much to be a short term career for him that he will kiss goodby as he flies off into the Californian sunshine. Whilst leaving millions in dire poverty and a massive national debt. As others have said, leaves a bad taste.
DingleyDel · 08/04/2022 23:00

Also, chances that they pay full tax in India on that income? Nil. But that’s just the way the world works for the mega wealthy.

pucelleauxblanchesmains · 08/04/2022 23:15

@BigGreenSpacehopper We are not "all" going to have to suffer, the very rich won't. And indeed disabled people among others have been "having to suffer" under austerity for twelve years now so maybe they would like a sodding break

carefullycourageous · 09/04/2022 05:32

with experience of handling huge sums of money are invariably better placed to handle larger sums of money. The opposite is true - if a person is not experienced, they will invariably fare badly

  1. no evidence this is true generally
  2. no evidence Sunak wasn't underperforming in his previous career, who knows how much more successful he could have been?
Binkybix · 09/04/2022 08:00

This narrative of it being a leak from the 'right' is trying to adjust now she has said fuck you I will pay it, it's being seen across all social media and private chanels

I really don’t think them deciding to now pay it makes this go away. If anything, it makes it look like they know they’ve been caught doing something that is legal but is a huge conflict of interest and generally taking the piss.

It also rather makes her statement that implied it wasn’t a choice look dishonest. Which it was.

Silverclocks · 09/04/2022 08:03

@Binkybix

This narrative of it being a leak from the 'right' is trying to adjust now she has said fuck you I will pay it, it's being seen across all social media and private chanels

I really don’t think them deciding to now pay it makes this go away. If anything, it makes it look like they know they’ve been caught doing something that is legal but is a huge conflict of interest and generally taking the piss.

It also rather makes her statement that implied it wasn’t a choice look dishonest. Which it was.

And I still think they need to confirm where she has been paying tax. If it's India, not great for someone whose husband wants people to believe they're committed to UK interests, but probably OK for an Indian citizen. If it's Cayman Islands or similar.....
Binkybix · 09/04/2022 08:12

Agree…if it’s a tax haven that’s a whole other matter.

jgw1 · 09/04/2022 08:21

Ah, a rhetorical affirmation. In other words, answering a question with another question. It's avoidance.

You are correct, at the heart of this is that rich people get to pay a significantly lower proportion of their income as tax through avoidance.
That is the point of non-dom status and it stinks in most cases.

A leader should be setting an example, not raising taxes (whilst lying about cutting taxes) and then avoiding paying themselves.

HardyBuckette · 09/04/2022 08:35

It's back fired somewhat so I expect they will keep quiet.

Lmao no it hasn't.

StormzyinaTCup · 09/04/2022 08:38

Lmao no it hasn't.

Bigger picture!

knowinglesseveryday · 09/04/2022 08:42

She has only agreed to pay tax on income, a sum of £2m. She is remaining non dom to avoid inheritance tax, a far larger sum of over £250m. So it's a bone to shut us all up.

I don't think this is a feminist issue of any sort. Traditionally, and quite rightly, senior politicians always ensured their spouses were squeaky clean. Not any more, it seems. All of the rules have changed, and for the worse.

HardyBuckette · 09/04/2022 08:43

There's no remotely realistic bigger picture that could make the claim correct.

StormzyinaTCup · 09/04/2022 08:46

There's no remotely realistic bigger picture that could make the claim correct.

Really? We will have to agree to disagree on that.

VladmirsPoutine · 09/04/2022 08:47

I cannot believe someone has turned this into a 'sHe iZ a WoMan' story. I despair! More female SS guards!!

ancientgran · 09/04/2022 08:50

@DingleyDel

This screams 2 things to me.
  1. Sunak is very naive. Whether the leak came from the left or the right (and I think we all know those closer to home would be more likely to know their tax affairs) is irrelevant. He should have known this would be used against him.
  1. The Sunak’s were not intending to stay in the U.K. for too long. It seems very much to be a short term career for him that he will kiss goodby as he flies off into the Californian sunshine. Whilst leaving millions in dire poverty and a massive national debt. As others have said, leaves a bad taste.
Meanwhile his wife will fly off to India as she intends to return there. I wonder what they will do with the kids?
HardyBuckette · 09/04/2022 08:58

@StormzyinaTCup

There's no remotely realistic bigger picture that could make the claim correct.

Really? We will have to agree to disagree on that.

I mean, you can agree whatever. Nobody else needs to do anything other than roll their eyes.

Back to the point, this has clearly caused significant harm to Rishi Sunak, which is what it was aimed at doing. The fact that his wife has now opened her purse slightly certainly doesn't mitigate that, because it's caused other new problems for him. Public attention has been drawn to that fact that the Chancellor of the Exchequer's personal and familial affairs are structured in a way that indicates he and his family don't see their future in the UK. It's torpedoed his chances of being PM, there's no way the party would want to go into a GE having a candidate so easy to paint as out of touch.

Nothappyatwork · 09/04/2022 09:09

Meanwhile his wife will fly off to India as she intends to return there. I wonder what they will do with the kids?

Eat them probably they are Tories. I mean Eton 😬

C8H10N4O2 · 09/04/2022 09:29

It is racism, what the 'left' are actually trying to dogwhistle is that the Sunaks are not really british, or that he should have control over her income

Akshata Murty is not British and has no intention of ever being so. She wants to retain her Indian citizenship and has declared every year to HMRC that this is not her permanent home. Simultaneously she and Sunak both held green cards requiring them to state the US as their home.

Everyone working in financial services has to declare openly all their financial interests including the interests of spouses and immediate families. That is how important it is. Some of the increased scrutiny is a direct result of the 2008 crash, triggered by casino banking and asset stripping by organisations such as TCI (partner, one Rishi Sunak). Murty was involved in more than one company which has gone west including with large amounts of furlough money.

Note that Murty has not stated she will give up non dom status but just she will pay UK taxes which ensures her wealth will not be subject to inheritance tax.

The Murtys are spending a lot of money to get their man in number ten. Not sure replacing a PM in the pocket of Russian oligarchs with a PM in the pocket of Indian oligarchs is a net gain.

StormzyinaTCup · 09/04/2022 10:05

Public attention has been drawn to that fact that the Chancellor of the Exchequer's personal and familial affairs are structured in a way that indicates he and his family don't see their future in the UK. It's torpedoed his chances of being PM, there's no way the party would want to go into a GE having a candidate so easy to paint as out of touch.

Maybe they don't see their future in the U.K. long term. I expect she is doing what a lot of other spouses do if their partner's job is in another country, they stay and make a life here until that job is no more and then go back to her home country where she can be nearer to her mum and dad. Possibly she has agreed to pay U.K.taxes as she knows it's short term.

I judge someone on the job they do at the time they are doing it not how long a commitment they plan on giving to the country. He had a 60% approval rating and was the most popular Chancellor for 15 years when he was giving money away. That is when the rumours started about him being PM but I'm not sure it's what he wants for himself and his family and I wouldn't blame him.

BambinaJAS · 09/04/2022 10:23

@StormzyinaTCup

Public attention has been drawn to that fact that the Chancellor of the Exchequer's personal and familial affairs are structured in a way that indicates he and his family don't see their future in the UK. It's torpedoed his chances of being PM, there's no way the party would want to go into a GE having a candidate so easy to paint as out of touch.

Maybe they don't see their future in the U.K. long term. I expect she is doing what a lot of other spouses do if their partner's job is in another country, they stay and make a life here until that job is no more and then go back to her home country where she can be nearer to her mum and dad. Possibly she has agreed to pay U.K.taxes as she knows it's short term.

I judge someone on the job they do at the time they are doing it not how long a commitment they plan on giving to the country. He had a 60% approval rating and was the most popular Chancellor for 15 years when he was giving money away. That is when the rumours started about him being PM but I'm not sure it's what he wants for himself and his family and I wouldn't blame him.

Stop with this delusional view of the world.

Sunak will never be PM.

He got caught (either by naivete or downright Hubris) committing tax and residency arbitrage while presiding over massive tax rises, during a serious cost of living crisis.

The hypocrisy is so large that people in his own constituence (a very safe Tory seat) are very angry at him.

This is right up there with "let them eat cake".

jgw1 · 09/04/2022 10:25

@StormzyinaTCup

Public attention has been drawn to that fact that the Chancellor of the Exchequer's personal and familial affairs are structured in a way that indicates he and his family don't see their future in the UK. It's torpedoed his chances of being PM, there's no way the party would want to go into a GE having a candidate so easy to paint as out of touch.

Maybe they don't see their future in the U.K. long term. I expect she is doing what a lot of other spouses do if their partner's job is in another country, they stay and make a life here until that job is no more and then go back to her home country where she can be nearer to her mum and dad. Possibly she has agreed to pay U.K.taxes as she knows it's short term.

I judge someone on the job they do at the time they are doing it not how long a commitment they plan on giving to the country. He had a 60% approval rating and was the most popular Chancellor for 15 years when he was giving money away. That is when the rumours started about him being PM but I'm not sure it's what he wants for himself and his family and I wouldn't blame him.

So being Chancellor is just another job for Rishi, perhaps that is why he isn't taking it very seriously and is happy for billions of pounds to be fraudulently stolen on his watch.
StormzyinaTCup · 09/04/2022 10:28

Stop with this delusional view of the world.

What's delusional?

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