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Rishi Sunak’s wife is NOT elected OR in a public role but she is a woman

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BigGreenSpacehopper · 08/04/2022 09:05

Have you noticed that Zac Goldsmith (elected), Mark Carney (role of significance to all of us as Govenor of the Bank of England), 4th Viscount Rothmere (controlling shareholder and Chair of the Daily Mail) all have non Dom status but no mention is really made. However, a woman, who has no public role, has never said anything public, is being criticised for her non Dom status?

And yes she’s getting massive dividends but I imagine as it’s family money there is a massive pre-nup in place so it’s not like Rishi will be able to run off with it!

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UhtredsLatestPaganHussy · 09/04/2022 12:04

@ilovesooty

I suspect this has been leaked by the PM's allies. The timing has been such that he's been able to stick the knife in Sunak's ambitions while garnering personal approbation for defining a woman.
Without doubt.
cakeorwine · 09/04/2022 12:05

It just shows that rich people can use schemes and employ people with tax knowledge to ensure that they can legally pay as little tax as possible.

Most people haven't got the money to employ people to advise them on this.

BambinaJAS · 09/04/2022 12:06

@ilovesooty

I suspect this has been leaked by the PM's allies. The timing has been such that he's been able to stick the knife in Sunak's ambitions while garnering personal approbation for defining a woman.
He was naive and is not very good at politics.

He should have known he would leave himself exposed to this due to the cost of living crisis and his tax increases.

I despise Boris but he used to be a journalist. Sunak should have known this was a huge risk for him.

Arsewangry · 09/04/2022 12:15

I don't think this is a sexism issue. My issue with it is, the man in charge of putting millions of people in this country in to an unbelievably dire financial situation is benefiting from the wealth of his extraordinarily family situation. It's all very well saying it's her money, but he's benefiting from the lifestyle whilst making massive decisions that he cannot possibly understand or relate to the consequences of. I would think the same if it was a woman in charge with an obscenely rich husband. At the end of the day, he's hopelessly removed from the reality of what he's dealing with, and it stinks.

At the end of the day, she wouldn't have now decided to start paying tax in the UK if this hasn't come to light and she wouldn't have started paying tax if it wasn't the right thing to do.

Tigofigo · 09/04/2022 12:23

OK - so let's focus on Sunak himself shall we?

  • named as a beneficiary of offshore tax havens (from his wife's family's business)
  • had mysterious meetings with US healthcare giants when he gets a big say in how the NHS is (de)funded
  • voted against better benefits for the disabled and I'll (remember lots of these people are in poverty), better promotion of human rights, and same sex marriage
  • voted repeatedly in favour of less capital gains tax
  • voted against some tax avoidance measures
  • kept his US permanent residency via green card for 6 years after becoming a prominent member of Govt

He's a nasty, dodgy fucker only in it for himself.

HardyBuckette · 09/04/2022 12:23

I have my doubts that anyone actually thinks it's a sexism issue...

walksen · 09/04/2022 12:24

It's not about her bring a woman surely.

It is about the chancellor who makes decisions on taxation rules, changing thresholds, commenting about what is right and proper, writing off billions in tax fraud, all while he at various points

Has held a green card for us residency.
Allegedly a beneficiary of offshore tax funds etc.
Has family financial arrangements to minimise the family tax bill because of non residency whilst owning multiple properties in the UK raising family etc, sending kids to British schools etc.

Plenty of people have the state scrutinise their family finances for benefit purposes do it is a bit rich for him to complain about it.

ilovesooty · 09/04/2022 12:25

@Tigofigo

OK - so let's focus on Sunak himself shall we?
  • named as a beneficiary of offshore tax havens (from his wife's family's business)
  • had mysterious meetings with US healthcare giants when he gets a big say in how the NHS is (de)funded
  • voted against better benefits for the disabled and I'll (remember lots of these people are in poverty), better promotion of human rights, and same sex marriage
  • voted repeatedly in favour of less capital gains tax
  • voted against some tax avoidance measures
  • kept his US permanent residency via green card for 6 years after becoming a prominent member of Govt

He's a nasty, dodgy fucker only in it for himself.

Absolutely.
Noisyprat · 09/04/2022 12:31

If his goal was to become PM then I think it's clear now that won't happen now. I firmly believe that this is a slur campaign by BJs team.

I'm not sure what RS's motivation is but if I had that amount of money I would not carry on in the current position, I'd say 'stuff it' I'm off. He can literally do what he wants so why would he want to stay in such a stressful situation with pretty much no-where else to go? I appreciate I'm probably being a bit dim here but just why?

Silverclocks · 09/04/2022 12:34

@Noisyprat

If his goal was to become PM then I think it's clear now that won't happen now. I firmly believe that this is a slur campaign by BJs team.

I'm not sure what RS's motivation is but if I had that amount of money I would not carry on in the current position, I'd say 'stuff it' I'm off. He can literally do what he wants so why would he want to stay in such a stressful situation with pretty much no-where else to go? I appreciate I'm probably being a bit dim here but just why?

This puzzles me a lot, I thought he was supposed to be super clever, so how could he not realise this would completely scupper his chances of being PM?
EvilPea · 09/04/2022 12:41

@Silverclocks because clever doesn’t equal common sense. It also depends on the kind of people you have spent your life surrounded with. If they’ve all had a privileged upbringing where tax loop holes are a good thing, you’ll believe it’s perfectly acceptable.

I was on the fence on a truly rich mp situation. You want the brightest and the best, they go off for a better paid carer (it’s a wage I can only dream of, but there are better paid jobs available). So an independent wealthy MP could (use the term loosely) be doing it because they want a job that makes a difference.

carefullycourageous · 09/04/2022 12:42

@Noisyprat

If his goal was to become PM then I think it's clear now that won't happen now. I firmly believe that this is a slur campaign by BJs team.

I'm not sure what RS's motivation is but if I had that amount of money I would not carry on in the current position, I'd say 'stuff it' I'm off. He can literally do what he wants so why would he want to stay in such a stressful situation with pretty much no-where else to go? I appreciate I'm probably being a bit dim here but just why?

Power. He can not be PM if he buggers off.
ancientgran · 09/04/2022 13:01

@Nothappyatwork

Meanwhile his wife will fly off to India as she intends to return there. I wonder what they will do with the kids?

Eat them probably they are Tories. I mean Eton 😬

Good point.
HardyBuckette · 09/04/2022 13:06

@Noisyprat

If his goal was to become PM then I think it's clear now that won't happen now. I firmly believe that this is a slur campaign by BJs team.

I'm not sure what RS's motivation is but if I had that amount of money I would not carry on in the current position, I'd say 'stuff it' I'm off. He can literally do what he wants so why would he want to stay in such a stressful situation with pretty much no-where else to go? I appreciate I'm probably being a bit dim here but just why?

Power, I expect. He isn't the first and probably won't be the last exceptionally rich individual who could do whatever they liked, but still sought high office.
Clavinova · 09/04/2022 13:10

he voted against same sex marriage

No he didn't.

user68901 · 09/04/2022 13:14

I think how senior politicians' conduct their family affairs is very much in the public interest. After all Sunak et al are perfectly placed to change the tax rules that allow for this non dom status which enables the seriously rich to potentially choose the tax jurisdiction which will be more beneficial to them.

Noisyprat · 09/04/2022 13:19

It's all very well Akshata Murthy may well now be paying some tax here however that isn't the issue. The non-dom rules are the issue, these need addressing. As Chancellor he should be tackling this.

Almost certainly it's a power thing however imo RS is finished, he will never be pm now. The British public won't take kindly to our primeminster having a wife who doesn't have UK citizenship and whose allegiance lies in Indian. A country which we seem to continue to throw money at despite them having plenty of their own but just not distributing it properly (bit like the UK).

jgw1 · 09/04/2022 13:22

@Noisyprat

It's all very well Akshata Murthy may well now be paying some tax here however that isn't the issue. The non-dom rules are the issue, these need addressing. As Chancellor he should be tackling this.

Almost certainly it's a power thing however imo RS is finished, he will never be pm now. The British public won't take kindly to our primeminster having a wife who doesn't have UK citizenship and whose allegiance lies in Indian. A country which we seem to continue to throw money at despite them having plenty of their own but just not distributing it properly (bit like the UK).

It is interesting to consider that if Murthy gave 10% of her wealth to India it would cover the cost of the UK withdrawing aid from India. Given that she appears to be avoiding paying taxes in the UK I wonder if she has also done so in India.
Clavinova · 09/04/2022 13:29

After all Sunak et al are perfectly placed to change the tax rules that allow for this non dom status

Not so easy though - around 70,000 people claimed the status in 2018, including 1 in 5 city bankers. How would that affect the desirability of London as a financial centre when countries such as Ireland and the Netherlands offer similar non-dom status?

Clavinova · 09/04/2022 13:41

It is interesting to consider that if Murthy gave 10% of her wealth to India it would cover the cost of the UK withdrawing aid from India.

The Labour Party could donate the £5 million they received from the Indian steel magnate to set the ball rolling.

jgw1 · 09/04/2022 13:42

@Clavinova

After all Sunak et al are perfectly placed to change the tax rules that allow for this non dom status

Not so easy though - around 70,000 people claimed the status in 2018, including 1 in 5 city bankers. How would that affect the desirability of London as a financial centre when countries such as Ireland and the Netherlands offer similar non-dom status?

Are you trying to demonstrate that non-dom status exists for people who are richer than anyone needs to be to avoid paying tax?

If so you are doing a good job of it.

jgw1 · 09/04/2022 13:44

@Clavinova

It is interesting to consider that if Murthy gave 10% of her wealth to India it would cover the cost of the UK withdrawing aid from India.

The Labour Party could donate the £5 million they received from the Indian steel magnate to set the ball rolling.

Does this Indian steel magnate also avoid paying the same proportion of his income in tax as someone on an average income?

No wonder the public finances around the world are in such a bad state.
It is almost as though these rich people are buying their way out of contributing to society.

Clavinova · 09/04/2022 13:51

Does this Indian steel magnate also avoid paying the same proportion of his income in tax as someone on an average income?

No idea.

2010
[Harriet Harman] the deputy leader refused to say whether some of Labour's biggest backers paid all their taxes in the UK, insisting it was a 'private matter'.

Labour is estimated to have taken more than £10million since 2001 from non-doms - those who legally avoid paying tax on their overseas earnings

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1256169/Harriet-Harman-refuses-answer-questions-Labours-major-funders.html

rainingsnoring · 09/04/2022 13:51

Absolutely nothing to do with her being a woman or non Causcasian. Love how the misogyny and race cards are being pulled out by the right wing now it suits them Grin.

It's interesting to see just how much Rishi Sunak (and wife) wants to be the next PM. It's also clear from her carefully worded statements (and his) that she is not paying the tax in India, the country she apparently loves. Clearly, neither of the love the UK or have any care or loyalty to the citizens here and as such he should not be in high level politics at all.

I think this is (one of) the final nails in the coffin of Sunak's ambitions.

Clavinova · 09/04/2022 13:56

Are you trying to demonstrate that non-dom status exists for people who are richer than anyone needs to be to avoid paying tax?

No - I'm saying we need to compete with countries such as the Netherlands if we wish to retain London as a major financial centre.